RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 27, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) A look at trains passing Radcliffe on Trent today, between Grantham and Nottingham on the Great Northern line. Radcliffe on Trent Class Class 20 20166 and 20163 Nottingham to Skegness July 77 C3393 Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham March 79 C4354 Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness Aug 79 C4819 Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester April 80 C4971 Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 Manchester to Parkeston Quay April 80 C4996 David Edited July 28, 2016 by DaveF 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Good to see reminders of just how dreary but nonetheless interesting the railway was in those days, seems like an eternity ago now. Could the two 47s be the same loco on successive days? Hard to say if its just the light but the roof looks as though it could be silver grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hi, Dave. A great selection of photos of Radcliffe on Trent today. Those two class 20's in the first photo look quite worn and rusty - a good weathering project! Nice to see the class 114 DMU's. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 27, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2016 Good to see reminders of just how dreary but nonetheless interesting the railway was in those days, seems like an eternity ago now. Could the two 47s be the same loco on successive days? Hard to say if its just the light but the roof looks as though it could be silver grey. The Parkeston Quay to Manchester and return train usually had a Stratford Class 47, often with a silver grey roof at that time. I think it came off at Sheffield as the train reversed there. Sometimes the same loco was used several days running, but not always. I've just had a look at my slide catalogue, as far as I can tell (at that time I only noted month and year) there would have been a few days between the photos as I visited a few other places in between. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) The 47 is one of Stratfords finest on 1M87 HPQ-Manchester - 47114 (one of the original class 48s). Its still got its BRUSH worksplates on the cabsides. The second photo of the 47s looks like 47108 when you enlarge the photo. Spent many a hour on that bridge at Radcliffe! 2 hours spent there last Tuesday waiting for 60056 on the Rectory-Lindsey empty tanks in glorious full sun and 30°+ temperatures only for it to be retimed 3 hours later due to no driver! I'll have a look on the big computer tomorrow to identify the rear 20 with 20166 and try and put a firm date on it. I have a entire list of just about every time 20s went to Skegness from about 1960 to the present day. Its a few pages worth! Edited July 27, 2016 by B Exam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2016 Looks like the stop signal was Skipton North's Starter with Skipton South's distant underneath. Also further down the post is a stop signal arm facing the other way. Probably one of North's home signals... If you look at the far end of the platform you can just make out Skipton south's home signal on a large bracket structure... HTH JF A mate of mine worked at Skipton North as a relief. We had a few unofficial visits there many years ago. It seemed to have a large collection of "interesting" magazines in one of the lockers, but I was led to believe that many signal boxes had similar collections................... Quite a large box and lots of shunting moves in and out of the stabling sidings, as well as the stone traffic to/from the Rylstone quarry (ex-Ilkley) branch. Skipton North is on my "maybe I'll model that one day" list. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 many signal boxes had similar collections................... Oh indeed yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 The 47 is one of Stratfords finest on 1M87 HPQ-Manchester - 47114 (one of the original class 48s). Its still got its BRUSH worksplates on the cabsides. The second photo of the 47s looks like 47108 when you enlarge the photo. Spent many a hour on that bridge at Radcliffe! 2 hours spent there last Tuesday waiting for 60056 on the Rectory-Lindsey empty tanks in glorious full sun and 30°+ temperatures only for it to be retimed 3 hours later due to no driver! I'll have a look on the big computer tomorrow to identify the rear 20 with 20166 and try and put a firm date on it. I have a entire list of just about every time 20s went to Skegness from about 1960 to the present day. Its a few pages worth! Right, had a good look on the big computer and the only times 20166 went to Skegness in July 1977 was on Saturday 30th and Sunday the 31st. Both times paired with 20163. Saturday 30th: ECS to Skeness to form a 10.55 relief back to Nottingham. Also this day 20022+20065 Worked Sheffield-Skegness-Sheffield via Nottingham, 20193+20198 The Leicester-Skegness and 20047+20068 The Derby-Skegness. Chopper heaven! Sunday 31st 20166+20163 worked: 1E85 08.40 Leicester-Skegness, 1M85 Skegness-Leicester Almost 39 years to the day! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2016 Right, had a good look on the big computer and the only times 20166 went to Skegness in July 1977 was on Saturday 30th and Sunday the 31st. Both times paired with 20163. Saturday 30th: ECS to Skeness to form a 10.55 relief back to Nottingham. Also this day 20022+20065 Worked Sheffield-Skegness-Sheffield via Nottingham, 20193+20198 The Leicester-Skegness and 20047+20068 The Derby-Skegness. Chopper heaven! Sunday 31st 20166+20163 worked: 1E85 08.40 Leicester-Skegness, 1M85 Skegness-Leicester Almost 39 years to the day! Thanks very much for the information, I've updated the caption and also my photo catalogue. I still have quite a lot more of the Skegness Class 20 working photos to post in the coming months (years?) as and when I get them sorted out and corrected, so I hope you'll have information when I haven't got the second loco's number. At one time Dad lived a few minutes walk from the station at Radcliffe on Trent, so he took a lot of photos there, just as I did when visiting family. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Thanks very much for the information, I've updated the caption and also my photo catalogue. I still have quite a lot more of the Skegness Class 20 working photos to post in the coming months (years?) as and when I get them sorted out and corrected, so I hope you'll have information when I haven't got the second loco's number. At one time Dad lived a few minutes walk from the station at Radcliffe on Trent, so he took a lot of photos there, just as I did when visiting family. David Always happy to help wherever I can. Just keep supplying the fantastic photos David so I taking my daily trip down memory lane! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 A mate of mine worked at Skipton North as a relief. We had a few unofficial visits there many years ago. It seemed to have a large collection of "interesting" magazines in one of the lockers, but I was led to believe that many signal boxes had similar collections................... Oh indeed yes! You do mean model railway magazines, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 You do mean model railway magazines, don't you? Welll...they had models of sorts in them... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Re Class 20s to Skeggy, would the earliest ones have been from Darnall/Tinsley on workings from the Sheffield area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2016 Re Class 20s to Skeggy, would the earliest ones have been from Darnall/Tinsley on workings from the Sheffield area? I don't know, perhaps someone else does but I'd have thought possibly Toton allocated ones for the Derby and Nottingham trains. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2016 Newcastle and Heaton today, between 1980 and 1990. The ones at Heaton depot were taken with permission during a visit. Newcastle 03078 & 45130 24th Feb 87 C8215 Newcastle 47654 sleeper Kings X to Newcsatle 10th May 88 C9520 Newcastle Class 55 Edinburgh to Kings X Feb 8 J6771 Heaton Depot 143320 under repair 20th Jan 90 C13915 Heaton Depot 37408 up light engine 20th Jan 90 C13948 David 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hi, Dave. An excellent set of photo's of Newcastle and Heaton today. Again, they are all very nostalgic. The last photo of 37408 makes for a lovely view of that engine, with good lighting effects. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'll have a look on the big computer tomorrow to identify the rear 20 with 20166 and try and put a firm date on it. I have a entire list of just about every time 20s went to Skegness from about 1960 to the present day. Its a few pages worth! Wow. This could be manna from heaven for me if you have class 20 (or EE Type 1s as they were then ) workings to Skegness in the 1960s, as the Midlands services passed my Dad's garden and I lost my notes; I do have a few underlined in my Locoshed Book, but with no clue as to where I saw them. My memories suggest they were not too frequent until the early 70s, most trains having 31s or 25s on the front, with an occasional 37. If you could find the time ( there's no rush ) to list the 1960s passenger workings, that would be marvellous. I know pairs of 20s appeared on 7E71 the 1745 Colwick to Boston Goods and 7M82 return, but that is goods and is another subject entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Off topic, but the earliest recorded 20 to Skegness is believed to be D8058 solo on a Sheffield train sometime in 1960. Anyway, thats for another thread, back to discussing Dave's photos! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Toton didn't start to get a bulk allocation of EE Type 1s until the middle of 1966. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimly Feendish Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Re Class 20s to Skeggy, would the earliest ones have been from Darnall/Tinsley on workings from the Sheffield area? I have often wondered why 20's were used on these workings, Could any of the kind souls on here enlighten me? Thanks, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I have often wondered why 20's were used on these workings, Could any of the kind souls on here enlighten me? Thanks, John. As I understood it, they were spare from coal traffic in the summer and at weekends, which is when the extra Skegness trains ran. Plus it's not a high-speed route, so max speed wasn't a problem. As well as the core Nottingham-Skegness run, they also started back from Leicester/Derby, at least in the early 80s. In the high summer, I think at least the Leicester one ran Mon-Thu and Sat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Also in summer, train heating was not necessary, allowing the use of non-heat locos on passenger trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 As I understood it, they were spare from coal traffic in the summer and at weekends, which is when the extra Skegness trains ran. Plus it's not a high-speed route, so max speed wasn't a problem. As well as the core Nottingham-Skegness run, they also started back from Leicester/Derby, at least in the early 80s. In the high summer, I think at least the Leicester one ran Mon-Thu and Sat. The Leicester and Derby trains ran Saturday-Thursday with a day off on Friday when the stock was used on relief trains. The Derby train started back at Burton Upon Trent Tues-Thurs which needed a run-round at Derby. On a Saturday the return trains from Skegness departed at Lunchtime to cater for the weekly holiday makers change-over. The other days it was usually after 18.00 to cater for the day trippers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 29, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) I've actually remembered to change the date on the thread title today. The batch of photos for today are on the Great Central in North Lincolnshire with Scunthorpe, Brocklesby and Cleethorpes being visited. Scunthorpe Class 114 Cleethorpes to Doncaster 11th Aug 77 C3455 Scunthorpe Class 40 eastbound coal 11th Aug 77 C3457 Brocklesby 30th May 91 C15861 Cleethorpes Class 114 in distance 28th March 78 C3760 Cleethorpes 158769 Manchester to Cleethorpes 26th July 2000 C24999 Edited to get the right photos in the right order. David Edited July 29, 2016 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Welll...they had models of sorts in them... Look at the buffers on that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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