Photo's Of East Yorkshire Railways

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, courtesy of John Turner, fishermandave89, Grahama5531, and Syd Young, all on Flickr, we have a further four photo’s to enjoy.

 

The first one shows Dairycoates allocated WD "Austerity" 2-8-0, 90272, as it approaches Brough with a Hull-bound Class H freight, on the 29th June, 1963.

 

 

The next photo’ is a view of Bridlington, in possibly 1983, with a class 40, and a class 31, on an engineering train. No other details are given.

 

 

The third photo’ shows a hybrid class 123/124 four car unit on the 14.33 Hull to Manchester service, as it passes Gilberdyke Junction, on the 14th February, 1981. 
 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of a 47, with a red tail light showing, 47203, as it brings train, 6D85, the 12:25 Saltend to Doncaster Belmont Speedlink through the now-demolished Melton Halt on the 11th April, 1988.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[AttusLeBeard]

On 22/02/2024 at 16:12, RAILWAY COTTAGES said:

Would be fantastic if anyone had any pictures of Peaks at Springhead, or even on test runs up to willerby.  One thing does surprise me, that they would be allowed over the bridges at Calvert Lane.  I never saw a Peak on the over head railway to the docks, i presume due to weight restrictions

I remember seeing 45036 heading a Saltend bound tank train across Newland Avenue bridge sometime early-mid80s.   

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, courtesy of Syd Young, Mark Walker, and knoxrj, all on Flickr, here are four more photo’s to enjoy.

 

The first one shows NER, E5, 1477, at Bridlington, sometime between 1912 and 1918.

 

 

The second photo’ is a view of class D2, 4387, again at Bridlington, in c1933.

 

 

Thirdly we have a photo’ of a Deltic, which having arrived with train 1D00, the 08:05 King's Cross to Hull, an incredibly filthy 55022, Royal Scots Grey has an energetic enthusiast for company as it runs back into Paragon station on the 28th December, 1979.

 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 50044 'Exeter' making a rare appearance for the class between Hull and Scarborough as it works train, 5Z84, the Beverley-Hull Dairycoates ECS of "A Beverley Christmas Carol" on the afternoon of the 18th December, 2021.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[micknich2003]

Barnby H&BRly, an insperation for a model.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Mick, for posting the excellent photo’s and diagrams of Barmby, on the H&BR. They are indeed most inspiring.

 

Now, this evening, courtesy of Simon Beeston, 54A Photography, and Grahama5531, all on Flickr, we can enjoy four more photo’s.

 

The first one is a view of a two car class 110 Calder Valley unit, seen departing Scarborough, for York, in circa 1983.

 

 

The second photo’ shows 31413, on the Saturday, 10.33 Hull to Scarborough service, loco hauled vice a DMU, as it approaches its destination. No date given, but might be 1980.

 

 

Next we have a photo’ of Thompson Class B1 4-6-0, 61032, ‘Stembok', as it runs light through Dairycoates Yard, Hull, on the 15th July, 1964.

 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 47826, at Gilberdyke, on a railtour, on the 2nd August, 2008.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[45125]

The photo of 31413 is a bit later than 1980 as it has been HGRed, so 85 or 86. plus the the mixture of mk1s and 2 would also put in the 85-86 time Fram when BG had maintenance of both types.

 

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, we have four photo’s thanks to Ernies Railway Archive, trainsofhull, and Andy Mason, all on Flickr.

 

The first photo’ is a view of class K3, 61872, on Scarborough shed in the 1950’s.

 

 

Next we have a photo’ of a rebuilt B16, 61421, on Scarborough shed, again in the 1950’s.

 

 

The third photo’ shows 37521and 37682, on a railtour in Speeton cutting, circa 2000. 
 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 20007 and 20205 on the RHTT seen through Gilberdyke on working 3S14, from Grimsby to Bridlington, on the 15th October, 2018.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening we have four photo’s to enjoy thanks to Andy Mason, John Turner, 54A Photography, and Andy Hughes, all on Flickr.

 

The first one is a view of V2 2-6-2 60876, as it charges over the crossings at Dairycoates, Hull, running light engine, on the 25th August, 1964.

 

 

The second photo’ shows English-Electric "Type 3" 6731 (later TOPS Class 37 37031) in BR green livery departs King George Dock / Saltend, Hull with oil train 9T06 conveying 35T GLW tank wagons, c1969.

 

 

Next we have a photo’ of a class 47 at Seamer West Junction. There is no other information.

 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 37025 `Inverness TMD' as it stands at Hull Paragon Station at the head of train, 1Q53, the 19:29 Neville Hill T&RSMD to Derby RTC. 29th June, 2018.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening we have four more photo’s to enjoy, which are all diesel. They are courtesy of Andy Mason, Keith Halton, and Andy Hughes, all on Flickr.

 

The first one is a view of an HST departing Scarborough in it’s first season between Scarborough and London King’s Cross.

 

 

The second photo’ shows nearly new 56122 as it  passes Filey before locos got banned, with the White Rose Rambler from Plymouth-Scarborough. The extended caption gives full tour details as follows:

 

Other locos used is as follows July 31st, 1983.

50008Plymouth – Exeter – Taunton – Bristol Temple Meads

56033Bristol Temple Meads – Bristol Parkway – Cheltenham – Worcester Shrub Hill – Bromsgrove – King’s Norton – Birmingham New Street – Water Orton – Nuneaton avoiding line – Leicester – Loughborough – Trent Jn's – Trowell Jn – Ilkeston Ground Frame

20179 + 20191Ilkeston Ground Frame – Nottingham – Bottesford West Jn - Newark Northgate – Retford – Doncaster

56122 Doncaster – Goole – Anlaby Road Jn – Beverley – Bridlington – MP41½ (just short of Londesborough Road, Scarborough) (1)

31235 MP41½ – Scarborough

56122 Scarborough – Malton – York – Church Fenton – Gascoigne Wood Jn – Selby West Jn – Shaftholme Jn – Doncaster

20179 + 20191 Doncaster – Mexborough – Rotherham – Beighton Jn – Chesterfield – Toton

56033Toton – Trent Jns. – Sheet Stores Jn. – Burton-on-Trent – Tamworth – Birmingham New St. – King’s Norton – Bromsgrove – Worcester Shrub Hill – Cheltenham – Bristol Parkway – Bristol Temple Meads

50043Bristol Temple Meads - Weston-Super-Mare – Taunton – Exeter – Plymouth

Notes :

(1) Due to the late running, the ER authorities decided to stop the train short of Londesborough Road, detach the class 56 and attach 31235 for the remaining half mile or so into Scarborough station, in a bid to regain some time by eliminating the ECS movement.

 

 

The third photo’ is a view of the Derwent Valley Light Railway, with an 03, propelling empty "Presflo" cement wagons collected from Osbaldwick. Photograph taken from Tang Hall Lane Bridge.

 

 

Last we have a photo’ of 66179, as it passes a then rural Lowfield Lane, Melton, at the head of 6F42 Hull Coal Terminal to Ferrybridge PS, on the 12th October, 2001.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Ray M]

That 03, looks like an 04 to me.

just had a look at Tang Hall lane,York on google earth.

it looks just a bit overgrown from that pic.

[mikemeg]

Reflections on the thread

 

I have just rediscovered this thread and what a joy! Like many of my generation, I first discovered and then spent many happy days watching the railway and its trains in the late 1950's early 1960's. A railway still dominated by steam, though by 1962/63 diesels of various types, were rapidly displacing our beloved steam locomotives. During those years, apart from the changes in motive power, the overall character of the railway had changed little from its pre-nationalisation and, in some cases, pre grouping appearance. It was a wonderful anachronism in a very fast changing world.

 

Of all the places, where we watched trains, none featured more often or with greater affection, than Hessle Haven, standing on the road bridge to  Hessle Shipyard. Thanks to my old mate Mick Nicholson, who provided a raft of information (photos, drawings, etc.) I was able to build a  model of this place, a model which I am still building.

 

I collected literally dozens of photos of this place and many other places along the line from Hull to Doncaster and Selby but these two just encapsulated all that we loved of the railway of that time (the dmu might be exempted from that sentiment!!). The track layouts with the track formations and ballasting immaculately maintained, the huge semaphore signal gantries and bridges, the signal boxes and, perhaps most memorably, the lingering sight and smell of steam locomotives; that incredible smell of oily, soot laden steam.

 

I'm sure that these photos must be posted elsewhere on this thread but allow me to post, once again, a couple of photos of a place - that bridge over the railway - and a world now long gone; a world we were fortunate enough to have seen and to have been part of and a world whose passing we shall always miss - The Steam Railway.

 

Cheers

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 24 by mikemeg

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Mike, for that wonderful post and the two photo’s. I hope you might be able to post a bit more in the thread when are able to, I really have enjoyed all you have had to say.

 

Well, this evening, we have four more photo’s thanks to John Law, loose_grip_99, and Syd Young, all on Flickr.

 

The first one is a view of Bubwith, on the Market Weighton to Selby line, with a freight train in c1910.

 

 

Next we have a photo’ of D24’s, 2426, and 2427, at Springhead shed, in c1928.

 

 

The third photo’ shows preserved Black 5, 5305, on the 28th December, 1981, with the locomotive simmering in Hull Paragon station, after returning from Scarborough via York.

 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 47555, as it arrives at Brough, the last stop before it's final destination, with train, 1D01, the 09:44 King's Cross to Hull, on the 11th April, 1988.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[mikemeg]

The First 'Steam Shed Sunday'

 

Thanks to Rob for the very kind words, though you might live to regret inviting me to post on here more regularly.

 

As part of our initiation to the railway and its trains, way back in 1958, we discovered that there were places which, for spotters or railway enthusiasts, were the holy of holies. Often these places bore names which really didn't signify as railway places; Dairycoates, surely something to do with cows and agriculture; Botanic Gardens, again redolent of manicured, orderly places where plants and trees are cultivated; Springhead, perhaps the source of a small stream or river. Alexandra Dock, a place full of water and ships, surely.

 

No, these were the great sheds and some not so great, where the locomotives lived and from which they worked. Very soon, normally on a Sunday, we would venture into these places to find that they were enormous, covering a huge area. They were great cathedrals of places, dedicated not to some deity but to the upkeep and functioning of the steam locomotive.

 

So, on a bright, sunny, early October Sunday three young lads, I being the youngest, rode down Brighton Street, in Hull, past some allotments and wood yards and parked our bikes in a bike shed alongside the goods lines which skirted Dairycoates loco shed. We walked over the footbridge and into this place. And almost immediately the realisation that this was a very special place and a host of impressions formed in my mind, impressions, pictures, memories which have stayed with me throughout my life.

 

There was a stillness about the place, nothing was moving. There was an air of dilapidation, with a row of offices which had once adjoined a much larger building and now stood in isolation. But the overriding memory was of straight lines of locomotives, again on tracks which must have once been covered, most being Austerity's perhaps a dozen of them.

 

In the near distance, in front of a huge building, was a turntable with tracks radiating around it, on each of which was a tank locomotive or an 'interloping' diesel shunter. So that's how they did it; they used turntables to determine where the locos would rest! Alongside the row of Austerities, was another building, this one lacking a complete roof and again, packed with locomotives. More Austerities, K3's, J25's and J39's. But these would be mere hors d'ouvres for the main course!!

 

 

 

 

We moved on into the main hall of this place and here the impressions flooded into the mind. The stygian gloom of this soot encrusted place, even on a sunny afternoon, was palpable. There was almost no noise in this place save for the barely audible sound of steam hissing, water dripping and  the sound of pigeons flying and cooing up in the roof beams of this enormous building. Great shafts of sunlight punctuated the gloom, where glass panels in the roof were broken or missing. These shafts of sunlight, almost tangible, struck the floor, illuminating pools of water and oil which would reflect the colours of the rainbow. Some shafts of the light from the roof would illuminate parts of a locomotive, occasionally gleaming off newly applied paint and lining. But everywhere stillness! Tomorrow this place would echo to the sounds of a working railway, hustle and bustle; today was their 'day off' and the locomotives rested in silence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The two turntables, within the main building, contained largely the home based complement of B1's,  J25's, J39's, K3's, 4MT's and even more Austerities. Outside the shed was yet another turntable, though much later we would read that prior to its rebuilding in 1955/56, this shed actually contained six turntables, all within the one building. Around this turntable stood the 'foreign' loco's resting before returning to their base from whence they came. What traffic brought K3's from Woodford Halse, Black 5's and a Crab from Manchester, a Standard Class 5 from Huddersfield, O1 and O4 locomotives from Frodingham and the sheds in the Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire coal fields? Questions we would all answer over the coming years.

 

 

After tramping across seemingly unending expanses of ash, to the coaling plant to 'cop' yet another line of silent, cold locomotives, we took our leave of this place. We had seen just short of one hundred locomotives, including some of the original 350 hp diesel shunters. Unbeknown to us then - though we would very soon be forced to correct that lack of knowledge - in our youthful ignorance, we had also 'run the gauntlet' of the shed foreman and his Sunday staff.

 

 

So, that was the first Steam Shed Sunday of what would become several hundred visits to this shed and a host of others across England, Scotland and Wales over the next six years. Each memorable for  a variety of reasons but none more memorable than that very first one, now over sixty five years ago. Of course, what we hadn't seen any of were lined green locomotives - Dairycoates was principally a freight shed at this time - and that discovery would have to wait for another day.

 

As a final note, some of the photos I have used here are not contemporaneous with 1958 but they are illustrative of the narrative and they are all I have.

 

So, with the kind agreement of the owner of this thread, perhaps in a week or two I'll describe, and of course illustrate, that 'first green loco' day and, perhaps, one or two more.

 

Mike

 

Edited March 24 by mikemeg

[30368]

8 hours ago, mikemeg said:

We moved on into the main hall of this place and here the impressions flooded into the mind. The stygian gloom of this soot encrusted place, even on a sunny afternoon, was palpable. There was almost no noise in this place save for the barely audible sound of steam hissing, water dripping and  the sound of pigeons flying and cooing up in the roof beams of this enormous building. Great shafts of sunlight punctuated the gloom, where glass panels in the roof were broken or missing. These shafts of sunlight, almost tangible, struck the floor, illuminating pools of water and oil which would reflect the colours of the rainbow. Some would illuminate parts of a locomotive, occasionally gleaming off newly applied paint and lining. But everywhere stillness! Tomorrow this place would echo to the sounds of a working railway, hustle and bustle; today was their 'day off' and the locomotives rested in silence.

 

Wonderfully evocative of so many engine sheds on a Sunday, reminding me of a couple of Sunday visits to York shed followed by a trip accross the road to the staff canteen for a very hearty breakfast!

Many thanks,

 

30368

[mikemeg]

8 hours ago, 30368 said:

 

Wonderfully evocative of so many engine sheds on a Sunday, reminding me of a couple of Sunday visits to York shed followed by a trip accross the road to the staff canteen for a very hearty breakfast!

Many thanks,

 

30368

 

Thanks Richard,

 

The above 'opus' is now finished and illustrated with photos so that it meets the criterion of the thread's title. I have to say, writing and illustrating this was a very pleasant task and rekindled all sorts of memories.

 

Regards

 

Mike

 

Edited March 21 by mikemeg

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly I think that normal service is resumed after the mixup I had yesterday evening. 

And I want to especially thank you, Mike, for that truly outstanding post about your first visit to Dairycoates shed. The words and photo’s are quite excellent, and I have really enjoyed reading it all. 

So, please do make that post about your first green engine day, I cannot wait to see what happened.

 

So, it’s photo’ time, courtesy of Peter Foster, Trevor Casey, Charlie Verrall, and Andy Hughes, all on Flickr.

 

The first one is a view of V2, 60831, of 50B Hull Dairycoates, presumably waiting to end its days in Drapers Yard, on the 29th March, 1967.

 

 

Next we have a photo’ of class 37, D6736, at Dairycoates, on the 21st May, 1967.

 

 

The third photo’ shows class V3, 67638, at Dairycoates, on the 22nd April, 1961.

 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 37424 (37558) 'Avro Vulcan XH558' arrives at its destination in charge of UK Railtours 'Beverley at Christmas' charter, train, 1Z64, the 08:15 London Kings Cross - Beverley, on the 21st December, 2019.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[mikemeg]

XH558

 

Re the last photo of Avro Vulcan XH558 at Beverley in the above posting, here are a couple of other photographs of this same machine. These were taken, by me, at Scarborough during June of 2015, on Armed Forces Day and yes, this is the actual Avro Vulcan XH558 during its final season of flying displays. Its last flight was during October 2015 after which it became a static display.

 

In the tradition of bombers carrying names - B17's Memphis Belle, Sally B, etc - this aircraft carried and carries the name Spirit of Great Britain, though not the exotic artwork of the B17's, B29's or some of the wartime Halifaxes and Lancasters.

 

This was the last of the 134 Vulcans, built for the RAF, to remain in flying condition though for many of its last flying years it was operated by a preservation group.

 

The photos were taken on a Canon EOS 1100 SLR with a telephoto lens, using a shutter speed of 1/5000th of a second.

 

An awesomely beautiful aeroplane!

 

Cheers

 

Mike

 

 

Edited March 24 by mikemeg

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Mike, for those couple of excellent photo’s of the Avro Vulcan XH558. It’s fascinating to see those photo’s of the plane that the 37 was named after. 

 

Now this evening, we have four photo’s thanks to Andy Mason, John Law, and trainsofhull, all on Flickr. 

 

The first one is a view of H&BRwy, 2-4-0, 33, at Springhead shed in pre grouping days.

 

 

The second photo’ shows a further H&BRwy locomotive, this one being a Kirtley, 0-6-0T, 4, again at Springhead shed in pre grouping days.

 

 

Thirdly, we have an undated photo’ of 45140, as it passes the junction at Seamer West with a nice rake of Dogfish on the line to York.

 

 

Finally, here’s a photo’ of 20205, passing under the overall roof at Beverley on train, 3S15, Bridlington to York Thrall, on the 15th October, 2018.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[mikemeg]

The photo of the Class 20 above.

 

Amazing to realise that the locomotive was then probably fifty five years old. The footbridge, which is a North Eastern Railway cast example, is at least one hundred years old and the station roof, under which the train is passing, is probably more than one hundred and fifty years old.

 

Our railway heritage illustrated in one photograph.

 

Cheers

 

Mike

 

Edited March 23 by mikemeg

[micknich2003]

Willerby, Hull bound train, 1955.

[micknich2003]

Dear Rob, your views of the H&BRly G1 and H have been badly cropped, here are the originals.

[micknich2003]

Rob, this is the one I intended to post.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Mick, for the excellent photo’ of a G5 hauled - despite being push and pull fitted - train for Hull at Willerby, in 1955. It is just so full of detail and atmosphere.

And thank you, too, for those better photo’s of those two H&BR locomotives.

 

This evening, courtesy of Andy Mason, knoxrj, John Turner, and Paul Ashton, all on Flickr, we have four photo’s to enjoy.

 

The first photo’ shows NER, 2-4-0, 1268, at Bridlington in pre grouping days.

 

 

Next we have a photo’ of Derby built (1960) 350hb 0-6-0DE D3944, as it shunts Shirebrook (Eastern Region) Cowans Sheldon & Co Ltd 30T Steam Breakdown Crane DE331160 with matchtruck DM770006 at Dairycoates (50B) MPD, Hull, in c1969.

 

 

The third photo’ is a view of 37421, propelling coaching stock into platform 1 at Scarborough, to form a train to either Manchester or Liverpool, in the 1980’s. I’m a bit vague about the details unfortunately.

 

 

Finally, here’s a present day photo’ of 66728 "Institution of Railway Operators" at Gilberdyke, on train, 6D25, the 0850 Rylstone Tilcon (Gbrf) to Hull Dairycoates Tlcn Gbrf, on Tuesday the 19th March, 2024.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[mikemeg]

Signals over the years

 

Looking through the myriad photographs on this thread, as well as the ever changing nature of the motive power and rolling stock, there were aspects of the railway scene, in East Yorkshire, which changed much more slowly and which were 'constants' for very much longer. Nowhere was this truer than with the great signal gantries and bridges, made for the North Eastern Railway by McKenzie and Holland of Worcester.

 

Those delicate lattice structures supporting the North Eastern's penchant for signalling every conceivable movement, made these structures an integral part of the railway scene for the best part of a century. For essentially functional pieces of equipment, these structures were incredibly elegant things and did much to enhance the 'look' of the railway. Almost the last of these great structures, which became iconic, was the Falsgrave signal bridge, which, in modified form now stands at one end of Grosmont Station on the NYMR.

 

Some years ago, I began to scratch build models of some of these incredible structures but where to find drawings. The answer to this was nowhere! Oh there were diagrams, outlines on track plans, etc. but nowhere could I find 4mm scale drawings. So I produced some, in fact quite a few. Using photographs and armed with certain key dimensions and using a 'home made' piece of 3D analytic software I was able to get pretty close (within 1/2 of one percent) of the key dimensions.

 

So a few photographs of some of the drawings thus produced (and their prototypes), which are all hand drawn, and one of the resulting models. They are Falsgrave, Barlby West and Hull West Parade.

 

The model is, of course, a signal bridge which stood at Hessle Haven, though I have also modelled some of the Scarborough installations.

 

Cheers

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 24 by mikemeg

[8K77]

52 minutes ago, mikemeg said:

Looking through the myriad photographs on this thread, as well as the ever changing nature of the motive power and rolling stock, there were aspects of the railway scene, in East Yorkshire, which changed much more slowly and which were 'constants' for very much longer. Nowhere was this truer than with the great signal gantries and bridges, made for the North Eastern Railway by McKenzie and Holland of Worcester.

 

Their delicate lattice structures supporting the North Eastern's penchant for signalling every conceivable movement, made these structures an integral part of the railway scene for the best part of a century. For essentially functional pieces of equipment, these structures were incredibly elegant things and did much to enhance the 'look' of the railway. Almost the last of these great structures, which became iconic, was the Falsgrave signal bridge, which, in modified form now stands at one end of Grosmont Station on the NYMR.

 

Some years ago, I began to scratch build models of some of these incredible structures but where to find drawings. The answer to this was nowhere! Oh there were diagrams, outlines on track plans, etc. but nowhere could I find 4mm scale drawings. So I produced some, in fact quite a few.

 

Using photographs and armed with certain key dimensions and using a 'home made' piece of 3D analytic software I was able to get pretty close (within 1/2 of one percent) of the key dimensions.

 

So a few photographs of the drawings thus produced, which are all hand drawn, and one of the resulting models. They are Falsgrave, Barlby West and Hull West Parade.

 

The model is, of course, Hessle Haven, though I have also modelled some of the Scarborough installations.

 

Cheers

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

What happened to the Hessle Haven Layout you was doing??