RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think the key to this photo is *when* it was taken. I presume that the two-tone livery would have been re-painted green by the start of the service, and as the first picture shows a Brit, this means that the earliest the photo could have been taken is '51 and the service started in '49, so I think the chances of it being anything other that a trick of the light is slim.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) There was a discussion somewhere just recently, maybe the Yahoo GER group? I read that the GE electrification was delayed by the war, though some units were built (and stored?) in late LNER days, and were painted in LNER livery. I think it might have been light/dark blue? I'm not able to look at the group website until the weekend unfortunately. Anyway, there was some interesting discussion about this, and a desparate plea for someone to find a photo! To me, that pic shows a two tone livery and is not a trick of the light. Stewarr Blue and Cream, although there is no evidence of them running in that livery. http://www.lner.info/locos/Electric/shenfield.php Edited January 31, 2017 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think the key to this photo is *when* it was taken. I presume that the two-tone livery would have been re-painted green by the start of the service, and as the first picture shows a Brit, this means that the earliest the photo could have been taken is '51 and the service started in '49, so I think the chances of it being anything other that a trick of the light is slim.... Andy G The earliest one I have identified in the box is 1955, but most are 1956-8. The EE4s took over after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2017 Case closed then, trick of the light.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) I reckon so Andy, but I'd love to see a picture of one in the suggested blue and cream, I suppose they do have a bit of a look of the Tyneside articulated sets Edited January 31, 2017 by russ p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This is from page 38 of "Eastern Electric" by John Glover: "To work the new [shenfield] service the LNER ordered 92 sets of three-car units in 1938 though none was delivered until 1949." Chris Turnbull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 I have emptied the whole box onto the table and sifted through them, found them all from this location and.... saints be praised, a couple have a faint spidery pencil description on the reverse. The location is Shenfield and the year 1953. Unfortunately, the one that interests me the most is the camera-shake image. 61649 Sheffield United with a Felixstowe train 5th July 1953. 61104 with a service from Walton on the Naze 5th July 1953 61363 70042 Lord Roberts 3rd August 1953 70037 Hereward The Wake 6th September 1963 64876 on a ballast train 5th July 1953. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hopefully, someone might recognise this location.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Oh you beaut and only one like button. Got any more taken here? I could click like a hundred times. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Oops sorry the photo is taken from Meadow Lane crossing approach. The train is on the up line heading towards Cambridge and is about to cross the restricted height underpass then the level crossing. The ground frame in shot was released by St Ives 46 lever and controlled a trailing crossover between the up and down main. The very white looking box is the telephone to the signalbox. There are a good number of wagons on the coal drops. Edit to add.. (LNERGE is collecting information for a model of St Ives) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118310-st-ives-swavesey/ The photographer was standing on the left near the end of the gate to take the photo. The defunct line to the coal drops is in the foreground. https://www.rcts.org.uk/features/mysteryphotos/show.htm?srch=Y-86-04&img=Y-86-04 https://www.rcts.org.uk/features/mysteryphotos/show.htm?srch=Y-86-04&img=Y-86-03 Edited February 1, 2017 by LNERGE 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Oh you beaut and only one like button. Got any more taken here? I could click like a hundred times. I can have a look, but I only recognise the modern scene; so I can only post them all over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 This photo is the one which looks most similar. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Miles away. I'd say this is Fordham but which side is anyone's guess as both ends looked like this. There were branches to Mildenhall and Cambridge each end of the station. If i had to guess i'd say we are looking at the Mildenhall divergence. There was a goods loop at the Burwell/Cambridge end and the poles look too close to allow for that. A super picture and the first i've seen of MK1 horseboxes anywhere other than Newmarket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 This one is a gem for detail. Any ideas on location? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2017 Melton constable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Thanks Russ. I think you are right. I have yet to find another photo from that location, but this seems to be from the opposite direction. http://www.railuk.info/gallery/notes/watermark_no.php?id=2195&file_name=meltonconstableshed01.jpg&type=td Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Not a lot to go on with this photo, but a nice image of a D16. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Not a lot to go on with this photo, but a nice image of a D16. IMG_0953.jpg Wow Super stuff. A very unusual crossing gate for me to model. I have seen other pictures of this gate but this is rather good. The Telephone and presumably the electric gatelock release box is obvious, as are the three linewires that drop off here. Edited February 2, 2017 by LNERGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 This one is a gem for detail. Any ideas on location? IMG_0927.jpg I'm waiting to pass comment until i've shown this picture to my ex Melton Constable signalman when he comes round to play trains later.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 I was sure that the name on the signalbox read Wickham Market, but looking at the old maps the station there was much bigger than this. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) I've seen this same\similar view in a book somewhere. Possibly one of Iain Rices or Barry Normans Layout Design books. Edited February 2, 2017 by Shadow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Try Wickham Bishops station: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stuart166axe/6228320586 Not my photo. Roy Edited February 2, 2017 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Thanks Roy. I really should try not to jump to obvious conclusions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2017 Thanks Roy. I really should try not to jump to obvious conclusions. Why? That would make this thread less interesting! Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 From Eric, ex Melton Constable relief signalman.... The points are East box's 32 points in front of the railcar a combined point and lock on one lever and they were "@@@@@ heavy" 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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