No Decorum Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hi ND, We can certainly produce TOPS panels that can be available to renumber wagons. These are great because they can just be placed over the existing panel with no need for repainting, or removing lettering. However, the the tiny repeater numbers next to the catwalk on top are more awkward as they are painted directly onto the barrel. They are very small, but they are there. Adding these small repeater numbers to the decal sheets will significantly increase the cost of each sheet and of course mean the modeller has to remove the existing numbers before applying. Barrel repeater.jpg What would people prefer? cheers Ben A. Yes, I see the problem. Not only would we have to remove the numbers but there would be carrier film as well on the replacements, I assume. No problem, of course, for the filthy brigade – just for fans of pristine wagons. I’ve taken a look at the N scale wagons but, beautiful as they look, they aren’t much help in this regard. It’s also hard to get much of an idea of size from that close up. Naturally, what might pass muster in N might, or might not, in 00. Having slept on it (isn’t that what afternoons are for?*) I think I might content myself with just removing the numbers so that they won’t conflict with the TOPS panel. I should be interested in other opinions too. * Deliberate goading of Ben, who chases penguins by day and TEAs by night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Are these renumbering sheets in addition to the model or included with? Edited October 28, 2016 by srihaggis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted October 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hi srihaggis, I don't think everyone will want to pay for the decals, so we will probably offer them as an add on, subject to minimum interest levels of course. The good point about carrier film made me wonder whether people might not prefer rub-down transfers for these? I imagine a decal sheet offering, say, 25 different TOPs panels would be about £5, but that is just a guess. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Thanks for clarifying. I was a bit shocked when I read the initial post as I thought the models were being made on the basis of the number not being printed at all. I'm not too fussed about buying any extra transfers personally, it's a nice touch for the purists though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I’m hardly a purist – more of a number fetishist because, for me, one of the joys of modern modelling is that goods wagons now have their individual identities rather than having a train of wagons bearing identical running numbers. To a great extent, it was the provision for numbering which led me to order trainloads of the things. Many folks prefer waterslide transfers because they can be adjusted before being allowed to dry and adhere. My own preference is for rub-down because they are quicker to fix in place and show no carrier film. I have some which have been in place for decades and show no sign of peeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Just ordered some more of these wagons after reading rapidos latest news letter. had to be done otherwise I would have only gone and spent the funds on something else at Warley this weekend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hello all, As well as yesterday's Revolution newsletter sent out to subscribers, Rapido have just published their latest Newsletter, with some photos and news about this model: http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1101318906379&ca=8ff4e781-15b9-4202-a07e-ea1976431a09 We are sharing stand C31 with Rapido at the Warley National Model Railway Exhibtion this weekend and hope to have at least two samples, so please come and say hello. Assuming the models pass our running tests we are expecting to sign this model off for production fairly soon. Cheers Ben A. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Surprised nobody has made mention of these yet. Dropped by to see the tank samples at warley earlier today; they look superb. Part of me is saying change to N after seeing the N versions rocking around that test loop! They [00] are a lot heavier than I expected. Look forward to recieving them next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 I saw them too. They 00 samples look good. Very impressive N gauge models too. Ben and Mike deserve a lot of credit for the progress they are making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 So now that things are settling down a bit after Warley I can give a few more details. We announced the possibility of the N gauge tanks at the end of March 2015 and 8 months later at Warley we had the first painted samples. As others previously mentioned we had done all the research so it seemed foolish not to scale it up to 4mm. There are still a few errors to iron out but we are very pleased with the progress and the reaction at Warley seemed to be very positive. We propose to offer the same options in 4mm that we offered in 2mm ie same choice of liveries and tank variants. We will offer a combination of single and triple packs subject to their being enough interest to make production minimums. VTG red: Single wagon: VTG 88115 Triple pack: VTG 88127, VTG 88133, VTG 88142 VTG grey: Single wagon: VTG 88157 Triple pack: VTG 88159, VTG 88163, VTG 88172 VTG blue: Single wagon: VTG 88143 VTG enviro-message blue - the VTG triple pack features three wagons bearing different environmental messages on the sides. Triple pack: 8370 7792 001-0, 8370 7792 035-8, 8370 7792 043-2 Freightliner Green: Single wagon: FLHH 871001 DB Schenker EWS grey: Single wagon: EWS 870200 Triple pack: EWS 870214, EWS 870289, EWS 870311 Greenergy blue / green - the Greenergy wagons are in two distinct liveries – either blue or green – in the proportions 2:1 so our pack will contain two differently numbered wagons in blue and the third in green: Triple pack: 8370 7792 001-0, 8370 7792 019-2, 8370 7792 007-7 The real wagons run across large parts of the UK. At this stage we estimate that the tanks will cost in the region of £35-40 each (though the more people order the cheaper we can get them for). As with the N gauge wagons we will take expressions of interest and if we reach our target of 2000-2500 (we are well above that in N gauge so hopefully that shouldn't be a problem in 4mm) then we will start design and production. At this stage we don't want any money (or even commitments) just indications on our website that there is interest. If we reach the level of interest we require then we will start the design work and open an order book. Once the design is complete and tooling is in progress we will set a deadline for orders and produce what has been ordered. More details: http://www.revolutiontrains.com/tea-wagon-project/ Expressions of interest: http://www.revolutiontrains.com/tea-wagon-project/00-tea-tank-wagon-project/ Cheers, Mike the tanks used on the Sinfin run are different from the RevolutioN TEAs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 the tanks used on the Sinfin run are different from the RevolutioN TEAs Do you have the number series used on it, please tommyboy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hello all, As promised here are some photos of the factory samples of the OO TEA. These will need to be tested and once we are sure they run OK we will authorise for production. Painted samples will be produced but they should be approved immediately since they only have to scale up the artwork from the N Gauge versions that have already been delivered. Here are some general views: The etched platforms are very neat, and on the end, where you can see right through them, the effect is especially pleasing in my view... This image shows the brake gear and discharge taps for the EWS version. This has the longer air tank with the support frame and the bifurcated nozzles. This is a comparison between the EWS type (bottom) and the original VTG version (above) with the shorter air tank and single tap on each end of the discharge pipe. Everyone at Warley who picked up the models remarked on their weight; they have been set to NMRA guidelines as is Rapido's standard practice, and I think this is more than is normal for the British market. Although they are very free running, with brass axle bearings, it does occur to me that a prototypical length rake of around 30 would probably need something with the power of a Hornby 60 to pull it - rather like the prototype. Cheers Ben A. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I like those. Brass bearings, eh? We don’t get those often on RTR. Good stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'd really like to order x4 of the Tripple packs, i assume the disposit is taken now with the balance on delivery ? What is the latest cut off for orders please. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted November 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'd really like to order x4 of the Tripple packs, i assume the disposit is taken now with the balance on delivery ? What is the latest cut off for orders please. We have not set a deadline for orders yet and will not until we have a production slot lined up. The deposit is taken when you place the order and the balance is requested when we are ready to start production ie when the order book closes. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So due this my late expression I might as well pay pay the full balance straight away, as production seems quite close. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted November 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2016 It is entirely up to you. Unless the factory has a slot befor Chinese New Year (probably not) then I suspect we are at least 3-4 months from closing the order book. We'll make sure that it is well publicised when we know the deadline. Cheers, Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Do you have the number series used on it, please tommyboy? 86969, 86964, 86968, 86917, 86927, 86929, 86923, 86967, 86963 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 How far off are we from seeing photos of any decorated samples please? They look outstanding just in factory primer/undercoat so think I may have to grab a box of wipes ready for the decorated samples...! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hiya Ben, do you have a video the testing of these tanks at all ? It'd be great to see if you have. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2017 Hello Shoey, A couple of the wagons have been under test on a 4mm layout belonging to a friend but MIke and I are meeting Jason and the design engineer during their visit to the UK next week and we are going to give them the wagons to thoroughly test in Canada - I anticipate they may well send us a video of this as they have with the Pendolino. Once that is done we will look to progress the model to the next stage. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Superb. Thank you Ben. All the very best for 2017! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 When do you think you'll be asking for final payments for those who paid half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 When do you think you'll be asking for final payments for those who paid half. I asked this very question at Model Rail Scotland yesterday and was told around the end of March 2017. Hopefully we will be seeing these in the flesh in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2017 Hello all, The TEA tankers in 00 have now passed all their running tests and have been cleared for production. The order book will be closing on March 31st, and we will only be manufacturing models ordered by that date. If you happen to know anyone not on RM Web who's after some please tell them if you think they would want to know. Cheers Ben A. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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