Smiffy2 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Ahh rugby in bubble wrap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy All NFL players tested were affected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2017 Well, are model railway locomotives not 'objects' that are providing enjoyment for adults? I don't see why a 00 locomotive is any less of a 'toy' than a games console or any other 'gadget' or 'machine' that can be regarded as meeting that particular definition. All the above definition highlights is that it's not just children who play with 'toys', which is the very point I was making. I suppose my model railway things are toys as much as my PS4, or my TV 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The Hobby shop in Faversham, have announced the pricing of the new bullhead point at an srp of £32.50 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Available from October onwards both in LH and RH format. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Available from October onwards both in LH and RH format. So on Monday?? ,,seriously a lot of shops contacted still have no dates etc, but it seems some do. Price about what was expected, and when available the layout can be worked on again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy All NFL players tested were affected. How would they know? Seems to me that you have to have an already poorly functioning brain to want to play gridiron. That said, a college-level gridiron friend of mine would not play rugby as he thought it much too dangerous without all the padding and helmets. Pity, he would have been a great asset to our team so long as he remembered not to pass the ball forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Didn't I hear last week that the pansy-ass politico's want to ban scrums? Oldham Rugby supporters of old would turn in their graves. What next, ban on lobbing balls at batsmen.... To keep it on topic, Peco are on the ball. Edited September 29, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just spoke to Dave at Gas Cupboard Models in Trowvegas. Same as others have said SRP of £32:50 (I guessed at £35) and release date in October but no definite date. Darn sight cheaper than a C&L kit @ £48 (if my memory serves me correctly). For me at that price I will be burning my fingers & stickin' & gluin' my turnouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just spoke to Dave at Gas Cupboard Models in Trowvegas. Same as others have said SRP of £32:50 (I guessed at £35) and release date in October but no definite date. Darn sight cheaper than a C&L kit @ £48 (if my memory serves me correctly). For me at that price I will be burning my fingers & stickin' & gluin' my turnouts. Tim The cost of C&L kits with pre-formed parts is still dearer, but if you preform the parts yourself and use the components, from memory using the Exactoscale parts equivalent the their kits come out well under £20. Certainly for those who for what ever reason prefer not to build their own, a cheaper alternative and what seems to be a much better looking alternative to H0 products, now how about a modern image 4 mm scale turnout in 00 gauge Seriously, a first class result for 00 gauge modellers and you never know if it catches on additional products may follow and prices could drop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
31B Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Model Railways Direct have them listed at the £32.50 rrp discounted to £27.63. https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/track/peco-sl-u1188-large-radius-right-hand-turnout-bullhead-track-unifrog/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmanchester Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Hi, I was told today ( by a Peco dealer )that the SRP will be £32.50 which should mean they could sell at about £29 with usual dealer discount. He also added that Peco are preparing a decent quantity for sale before releasing them to avoid a situation where shops get the first stocks and then run out quickly. Maybe Peco have read this thread and realised they are going to sell well. The last thing anybody needs is inflated prices on Ebay after a limited initial release. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmanchester Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Hi, Any bets on Peco producing flat bottom turnouts to the improved standard of the new BH one's ? There are a lot of modellers making layouts with FB that would welcome this. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Some of the big mail order companies are not even listing the points let alone taking pre-orders..a bit odd so far to find a supplier, I have to rely on mail order as house bound. One supplier wanted to charge now for the goods before supply! Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) The Hobby shop in Faversham, have announced the pricing of the new bullhead point at an srp of £32.50 wasnt far out with my guess of a similar price as the O gauge ones? - they should be a bit less at the discounters- maybe down to £25 a point by the biggies, when the novelty has worn off? - its twice or more the price of a normal code 75/100 - so who's gonna go for them and who says they are too dear? - and who's still going to build their own Edited September 29, 2017 by Russ (mines a pint) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 so who's gonna go for them and who says they are too dear? I will be investing, only need 1 for the scenic section! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I will be investing, only need 1 for the scenic section! Same here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2017 I quite enjoy building a point or two but any more (at a time) starts to get stressful and then I tend to loose interest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Hi, Any bets on Peco producing flat bottom turnouts to the improved standard of the new BH one's ? There are a lot of modellers making layouts with FB that would welcome this. Rob I think this will be unlikely. BH is very different to their existing FB range. Adjusting the webbing will provide less difference for nearly as much cost. I am wrong in thinking FB pointwork became common after FB plain track, so using BH pointwork with FB track should be suitable for many modellers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) I am wrong in thinking FB pointwork became common after FB plain track, so using BH pointwork with FB track should be suitable for many modellers. no - I think plenty bullhead points still exist in flatbottom track- probably anywhere there hasnt been a re-modelling or linespeed type improvement, ie lots of places Edited September 29, 2017 by Russ (mines a pint) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2017 Tim The cost of C&L kits with pre-formed parts is still dearer, but if you preform the parts yourself and use the components, from memory using the Exactoscale parts equivalent the their kits come out well under £20. Certainly for those who for what ever reason prefer not to build their own, a cheaper alternative and what seems to be a much better looking alternative to H0 products, now how about a modern image 4 mm scale turnout in 00 gauge Seriously, a first class result for 00 gauge modellers and you never know if it catches on additional products may follow and prices could drop Cheers, I've got all the bits (heavily discounted in the EMGS online shop), so don't buy the kits (although my first build was) and still 'roll my own' turnouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 wasnt far out with my guess of a similar price as the O gauge ones? - they should be a bit less at the discounters- maybe down to £25 a point by the biggies, when the novelty has worn off? - its twice or more the price of a normal code 75/100 - so who's gonna go for them and who says they are too dear? - and who's still going to build there own Building my own , one point type hardly maketh the layout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmanchester Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Building my own , one point type hardly maketh the layout Building my own. The Peco one's are hard to bend to fit the carefully drawn Templot plan ! Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 How would they know? Seems to me that you have to have an already poorly functioning brain to want to play gridiron. Nice response to findings of brain damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I am wrong in thinking FB pointwork became common after FB plain track, so using BH pointwork with FB track should be suitable for many modellers. Yes flat bottom plain line probably was about for a few years before the S&C, although as I have seen LMS 113lb flat bottom S&C the delay was short. Mixtures with S&C and plain line of different types were common, and it could be either way round depending on the relaying history. There are/were even a few units of S&C where for geometrical reasons in tight spaces abutting other existing S&C that was not to be relayed the rail type changed part way down the unit. Bullhead crossing with flat bottom switches sort of thing although such were rare. As the great majority of relaying has now been in flat bottom material for decades the number of sites where the plain line and S&C are in the two different sections is much less than it was, I would guess the peak for that sort of thing was probably the later 1960's, with BH - BH getting more common as you go back in time from then, and FB - FB becoming more common as you move towards the present day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 one point type hardly maketh the layout It does on my layout as I only have one point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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