JSpencer Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 003.JPGThe 'Golden Arrow' arrived at Swanage a couple of days ago. 34092 'City of Wells' was one of the West Country Class engines which had clips to fit the Golden Arrow. I made a note of a picture of34092 'City of Wells' passing through Chelsfield station in cycling lion days with a maroon lined GUV and a rake of Pullman cars. I used to live nearby and I could hear its whistle from my house. One day a boy fell from the top of a cutting at Chelsfield. The 'Golden Arrow' stopped in time and the fireman was taken to hospital suffering from shock.Hornby made a model of R4542 34092 'City of Wells' from 2006 to 2007 so this would provide alternative motive power to 'Appledore' for the 'Golden Arrow' train pack.I am amazed Hornby have never done City of Wells with the Golden Arrows either as per 1954 or in the 70s preservation days.Nice photo, has she had the Bullied chimney replaced with a narrow Geisl type one in this photo or are my eyes playing tricks on me? I have a Wrenn City of Wells, the only original West Country I retain from that company. Edited March 24, 2017 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) I love it! (hides) My Mum used to say, "It wouldn't do for us all to like the same things." She was a wise lady. And, yes, that's the Geisl ejector, fitted when it was last out on the main line. (CJL) Edited March 24, 2017 by dibber25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Wise indeed! My Mum used to say, "It wouldn't do for us all to like the same things." She was a wise lady. And, yes, that's the Geisl ejector, fitted when it was last out on the main line. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I love it! (hides) Just because I don't like the colour scheme doesn't mean I can't admire your workmanship! Very nice repaints, there, Miles. Something rarely seen modelled ... I can't understand why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearlymen Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) For all of you who are looking to add a little authenticity to your model of 34100 'Appledore' in its 1966/67 guise it should be noted that loco crew in the last days of steam could be very young ! Salisbury MPD 1966/67 yours truly takes the footplate in the attached pic ! Cheers Clive Edited March 26, 2017 by Nearlymen 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Thursday 30 March. It looks like the owners of 'City of Wells' have removed the Golden Arrow emblem at Swanage Station before someone else does. This has revealed the brackets that supported the Golden Arrow. I think all the 'Golden Arrow' locomotives had these brackets. 'City of Wells' was the subject of Eric Bottomley's painting 'Golden Days at Beckenham Junction'. This shows 'City of Wells' heading towards Victoria in cycling lion days with a green bogie luggage van, two crimson and cream MK1 coaches and a rake of Pullmans. These would have been U type Pullman cars so the entire formation would have been different to the R3400 train pack. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted March 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) A number of locos had these brackets - for example 34091 Weymouth here https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/Original-Bulleid-locomotives/i-wjGhqCF/A They were lower down on the Battle of Britain locos (below the nameplate) - https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/Original-Bulleid-locomotives/i-SKpbTL8/A Edited March 31, 2017 by RFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 For all of you who are looking to add a little authenticity to your model of 34100 'Appledore' in its 1966/67 guise it should be noted that loco crew in the last days of steam could be very young ! Salisbury MPD 1966/67 yours truly takes the footplate in the attached pic ! Cheers Clive But who is the little kid next to you? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co-tr-Paul Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just found out, the excellent Pullman Profile series of books, no5 covering these cars is out October... . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearlymen Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 But who is the little kid next to you? That made I laugh ! Yesterday I was going to take my bear ('Panda' imaginative name I know !) down to Swanage for a fifty years later pic but in the end thought I'd look a twonker, although my Dad now 79 who took the original pic was more than keen to do it again ! Great day out down Swanage though ! Cheerio Clive 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 A number of locos had these brackets - for example 34091 Weymouth here https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/Original-Bulleid-locomotives/i-wjGhqCF/A They were lower down on the Battle of Britain locos (below the nameplate) - https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/Original-Bulleid-locomotives/i-SKpbTL8/A Indeed a few Battle of Britain locos had two sets of brackets: one set used prior to naming and a second set to site the arrow clear of the new nameplate. Unfortunately some Golden Arrow locos lost their indentifying brackets over the years by replacement of the side plating through boiler cladding fires or accidental damage. One of these was 21C1 Channel Packet itself, which lost its brackets soon after its inaugural post-war Golden Arrow runs when its short trial deflectors were replaced by the later standard larger deflectors. Only one Golden Arrow loco ran regularly without the arrows as far as I know and that was 21C119 Bideford which took over the service immediately after the Channel Packet inugural runs. It was never fitted with brackets for arrows. Of course, in service failures occasionally meant other locos were used to haul the train without regalia on occasions but these were one-offs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hornby class 71 locomotive hauling the 'Golden Arrow' coaches from the R3400 train pack at the barn in Godlingston Manor, Swanage. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2017 035.JPGHornby class 71 locomotive hauling the 'Golden Arrow' coaches from the R3400 train pack at the barn in Godlingston Manor, Swanage. So what's the back story on that red Warship getting to Swanage? Signaling error at Waterloo saw the Exeter and Swanage locos transposed and the drivers conspired not to correct it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted April 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2017 So what's the back story on that red Warship getting to Swanage? Signaling error at Waterloo saw the Exeter and Swanage locos transposed and the drivers conspired not to correct it? That would be the easy bit; the 71 would have needed to take a hell of a run-up to get that far off the end of the juice rail. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Yesterday my Hornby 34100 'Appledore' hauled 15 Pullman coaches, ten with working table lamps, at the Purbeck Model Railway Group trials in the barn at Swanage. Some of the Pullman cars derailed due to the weight and rolling resistance of the train. I removed the matchboard sided Pullman cars as the old Hornby coaches were more free running. 'Appledore' was very happy with the remaining 10 steel sided cars. I ran the train for 90 minutes on an imaginary journey of 78 miles from Victoria to Dover with the train reaching a maximum speed of 86mph. I enjoyed the sound of the Pullman cars passing over the track joints and watching the illuminated table lamps as the train passed through the dark section beneath the elevated 0 gauge layout. 'Appledore' ran silently and the moving coupling rods and valve gear reminded me of a sewing machine. It was very therapeutic spending 90 minutes watching the trains go round. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 i take it from that photo, that then new Pullmans are indeed a different shade to the previous releases or is it the light? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 i take it from that photo, that then new Pullmans are indeed a different shade to the previous releases or is it the light? To my eyes, and I own both the GA Pullmans and many of the older ones, they look the same colours, here is pick of my GA next to a much older pullman: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Yellow does look a bit deeper on the Golden Arrow car, but a fair comparison would need more of a a side on view of two cars side by side, ideally in natural light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2017 There's yellow on a pullman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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