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What is the difference between the Class 81, Class 82, Class 83, Class 84 and Class 85? Externally I barely see any difference...Was it more internal?

It'd be easier to list what they have in common, instead of the differences. The designers were asked to follow a common design theme so they all looked roughly the same, otherwise English Electric would have built the 83 with a nose and Beyer Peacock would have rows of rivets on the 82 or had it look like a Garrett.

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What is the difference between the Class 81, Class 82, Class 83, Class 84 and Class 85? Externally I barely see any difference...Was it more internal?

Quite a few years ago I started to scratchbuild an 82,83, 84 and 85. I at first thought I could convert 86s to each class, no way. When I started to build them I found they all had different cabs. With all of them the cab slopes back slightly and the windscreen even more, the angles were different for each class, and the angles/curves across the front also vary from one type to another.

 

The part completed models were donated to mates who were into AC locos as my modelling projects changed.

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Here are some at Stafford, I think these photos have appeared before on another thread,

 

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85024 at Stafford with the 10.15 Brighton to Manchester Piccadilly, 20/6/86

 

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A dead-in-tow class 33 being hauled south through Stafford, 20/6/86

 

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85020 at Stafford heading south, 20//6/86

 

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More from 1990...

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85030 Birmingham New St. March 29th.

 

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86412 Wolverhampton. March 29th.

 

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86224 Birmingham International. April 2nd.

 

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90038 Glasgow Central. August 29th.

 

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87013 Carlisle. August 29th.

 

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86627 and 86430 Carlisle. August 29th.

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That photo of 89001 next to an HST says everything about why I think 89001 is an ugly pointless crate.  The HST nose-cone is attractive, stylish, timeless and well designed: 89001 is a random collection of mis-matched shapes and features seemingly thrown together by a badly hungover junior cad trainee with no attempt to give them any styling or sense of purpose.  Not quite as ugly as a Class 70 (both diesel and Bullied electric) but out there in the design wilderness alongside the original Class 317/455 front end and the Class 67.

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