montyburns56 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 86235 'Novelty' on the Manchester Pullman at Piccadilly 1980 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 86219 Warrington 1974 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D7063 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: 86219 Warrington 1974 Ahh the scenic side of Warrington Bank Quay! The Crossfields Chemicals / Lever Brothers works is behind and to the left of the photographer and the building visible above the 2nd tank wagon in the 47's train is The Patten Arms hotel. This must have been taken from the southern end of platform 4. I think the shadow of the fencing runs roughly where a bay used to be, but I may be mistaken there. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 21 hours ago, D7063 said: Ahh the scenic side of Warrington Bank Quay! The Crossfields Chemicals / Lever Brothers works is behind and to the left of the photographer and the building visible above the 2nd tank wagon in the 47's train is The Patten Arms hotel. This must have been taken from the southern end of platform 4. I think the shadow of the fencing runs roughly where a bay used to be, but I may be mistaken there. It's only scenic precisely because you can't see the Lever Bros factory! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Class 87 87029 'Earl Marischal' stands at the north end of Platform 4 at Carlisle station on 29 December 1979. It was built by British Rail Engineering Limited Crewe Works on 4 June 1974. Its name was previously used on LNER A2 Class 60502 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Gaugemaster announcing that they are commissioning Dapol to make a N gauge version of 86235 Novelty in the Rainhill 150 livery got me looking for pictures of it on Flickr, but I never realised that there was an earlier version without the full yellow ends and black windows... 17 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted December 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2022 310 089 + E3003 (81003). Birmingham (New Street). July 1967 by ricsrailpics 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 02/12/2022 at 18:45, montyburns56 said: Gaugemaster announcing that they are commissioning Dapol to make a N gauge version of 86235 Novelty in the Rainhill 150 livery got me looking for pictures of it on Flickr, but I never realised that there was an earlier version without the full yellow ends and black windows... Strange it had the number on twice too, almost like they were perhaps trying something out. Trainspotters would certainly have liked that livery, no need for binoculars - remember when they got to Inter City and the numbers were so small you couldn't see them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 22 hours ago, woodenhead said: Strange it had the number on twice too, almost like they were perhaps trying something out. Trainspotters would certainly have liked that livery, no need for binoculars - remember when they got to Inter City and the numbers were so small you couldn't see them. Well both this and the later version almost look like a prototype for the Large Logo livery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 They would have run like that prior to the full livery being applied. They were put back into service before being given the Liverpool and Manchester brandings and the rest of the large-logo style paintwork. The first loco to gain "large logo" was 56036 in 1978, the L&M 150 celebrations would have been in 1979. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 17/11/2022 at 14:37, The Border Reiver said: Class 87 87029 'Earl Marischal' stands at the north end of Platform 4 at Carlisle station on 29 December 1979. It was built by British Rail Engineering Limited Crewe Works on 4 June 1974. Its name was previously used on LNER A2 Class 60502 I remember seeing that with my mum in the 1980s and it being the first time I took notice of a locomotive to the point of reading its number and name. Almost 40 years ago…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 04/12/2022 at 18:48, montyburns56 said: 310 089 + E3003 (81003). Birmingham (New Street). July 1967 by ricsrailpics Sad no 310s exist. Quite a good looking design as EMUs go. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, ianmacc said: Sad no 310s exist. Quite a good looking design as EMUs go. Soon to exist in RTR form if the 2022 poll materializes. Certainly on my hit list, along with an AM4, and class 124... John Edited December 6, 2022 by proton typo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 18 hours ago, wombatofludham said: They would have run like that prior to the full livery being applied. They were put back into service before being given the Liverpool and Manchester brandings and the rest of the large-logo style paintwork. The first loco to gain "large logo" was 56036 in 1978, the L&M 150 celebrations would have been in 1979. They were in 1980. I went. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 20 hours ago, ianmacc said: Sad no 310s exist. Quite a good looking design as EMUs go. It must be those sexy curves on the windows that make it look good, something that it has in common with the Class 124 & 303. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: It must be those sexy curves on the windows that make it look good, something that it has in common with the Class 124 & 303. And the AM9 as built Andi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 DB are back to three pairs of Class 90s on MALCOLM this week Bill McAlpine (90028) and CB Hall (90035) in matching DB red Donald Malcolm (90021) and Christine (90037) Bumblebee1 (90026) and Bumblebee3 (90020) - first pairing to operate in matching ex-Grand Central from last night's (9th December 2022) 4S47 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 It always amuses me seeing non-air con MK2s coupled next to MK3s. 86235 Crewe 1981 by Tony Woof 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dale159 Posted December 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2022 16 hours ago, montyburns56 said: It always amuses me seeing non-air con MK2s coupled next to MK3s. 86235 Crewe 1981 by Tony Woof Could those be HST Mk3s with Mk2/Mk1s either end acting as barrier vehicles? Dale 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, dale159 said: Could those be HST Mk3s with Mk2/Mk1s either end acting as barrier vehicles? Dale More likely just the lack non existance of any Mk3 brake vehicles. Andi Edited December 11, 2022 by Dagworth 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, dale159 said: Could those be HST Mk3s with Mk2/Mk1s either end acting as barrier vehicles? Dale 35 minutes ago, Dagworth said: More likely just the lack non existance of any Mk3 brake vehicles. Andi They ran with a BG at one end due to the lack of brake vehicles for post office traffic, the Mk2 brake is probably there to replace a defective Mk3 TSO. Whilst you might have found the odd Mk3 wedged into a Mk2 set, you didn't generally see anything added to a Mk3 set beyond the BG once the Mk1 catering vehicles had been replaced with the MK3s. Crewe was great in those days, always something going on even though most freight went through Basford Hall. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) There was a regular diagram of a mixed Mk2/Mk3 rake on the mid-day Shrewsbury to London service back in 1983, which was remarkable as the "Birmingham Loop" very rarely saw loco-hauled Mk3s on scheduled West Midlands services at the time, they mainly being used on Trent Valley first-tier services to Manchester or Glasgow. I remember it clearly as it was at the time I spent a miserable year failing year one of a Computer Science degree at the Wolverhampton Polytechnic, so was able to catch it one day a week back into Birmingham. It gradually lost the odd Mk3 to be replaced with an air conditioned Mk2f TSO, and had a BSO at the end together with the BG at the front. So, until the introduction of 110mph timetabled running in around 1986-7 which needed a complete Mk3 rake plus a specially uprated BG (and locos with Brecknell-Willis pantographs) it was common to see mixed Mk2-Mk3 rakes. In fact, just after the Colwich crash which temporarily led to a shortage of rolling stock on the WMCL whilst other rakes were being refurbished, at least one rake of coaches comprised Mk1 TSOs in Intercity Swallow, Mk2c coaches in blue/grey and Mk3 FOs in the same rake - which was captured on film and can be seen on YouTube (look on "Mr Deltic"s channel at his "Rugby" videos in the 1980s). Edited December 11, 2022 by wombatofludham 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 E3018 Stafford 1964 by David Christie 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I dunno if this was common, but I'm surprised to see an 81 on a top express service (Liverpool-Euston) in the 80s. 81013 Stafford 1985 by Steve Thorpe 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted December 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2022 Mark 1, 2 & 3 in the same train (and adjacent to each other)...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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