RMweb Gold 81C Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 It doesn't take long before a thread goes off topic these days whats a crane got to do with a brake van? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Obviously not an uplifting experience...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I've always found a small amount of thread drift to be quite enlightening. Lets not put a brake on it. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 I've always found a small amount of thread drift to be quite enlightening. Lets not put a brake on it. P Does 'thread drift' have a direct proportional ratio to 'cant deficiency'? As one boss was heard to say " we are never deficient in can't....". Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Does 'thread drift' have a direct proportional ratio to 'cant deficiency'? I'll pitch back in by being inclined to agree with that. As one boss was heard to say " we are never deficient in can't....". Crikey! I thought you had written, "defecate in cans", as some goods train guards had to do (do). A poo-r attempt by me to try and move things back on topic. P Edited July 12, 2017 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Will a Toad be operated on Croft Depot then Porcy? Seriously, I saw a picture on a different thread on the forum with one seen at possibly Heaton yard c. 1991. Not the right era I know, but if only they remained in main line operation a little longer, then I could have bought one . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 On the ex-Airfix kits etc, all ex-Airfix and Kitmaster and Dapol mouldings are now marketed as Kitmaster, as Dapol realised they owned the famous trademark. Apparently the new moulding machinery they recently bought may mean new additions to the older ranges. Also the Airfix wagons all now come with metal wheels of good quality. Hopefully the Toad arrives today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Will a Toad be operated on Croft Depot then Porcy? Seriously, I saw a picture on a different thread on the forum with one seen at possibly Heaton yard c. 1991. Not the right era I know, but if only they remained in main line operation a little longer, then I could have bought one . . . A relative was a guard at Penzance. One of his Toads, W17398, a AA21 branded Marazion RU turned up in Newcastle Central station on the afternoon parcels from York on the 18th April 1962. To quote from the RO at the time, "it was hastily dispatched homeward the same day on the 11:46 p.m. Kings Cross Parcels!" The transfers are drawn, replacement buffers, vac cylinder and screw couplings acquired. So in answer to your question and granting of permission by the owner/builder, a toad may be seen on Croft Depot. As probably known, anything can happen (and usually does) on Crock Depot. P (who will be a tad apprehensive, taking into account what happened the last time a brake van ran down the branch). Edit: My relative said that a the GWR type toads would work all the way through to Tyneside and back on the specially timetabled "Broccolos" when in season. Edited July 12, 2017 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Will a Toad be operated on Croft Depot then Porcy? Seriously, I saw a picture on a different thread on the forum with one seen at possibly Heaton yard c. 1991. Not the right era I know, but if only they remained in main line operation a little longer, then I could have bought one . . . A couple ended up at Low Fell engineers' yard, IIRC, working with cranes and track machines. The one at Heaton Yard may have been there in conjunction with ECML Electrification works; the depot used part of the former coal depot. Edited July 12, 2017 by Fat Controller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 If only the Bachmann Toad I got at Warley last year was in P4, then I could have popped round to Croft Depot (which I saw and I believe was great) and asked you to test run it! Anyway, back to the Hornby Toad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Hornby has unfortunately chosen a running number from lot 853, which doesn't have the feature set of the model. The only lot that reflects Hornby's feature set is lot 910. Edited August 6, 2017 by Miss Prism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Hornby has unfortunately chosen a running number from lot 845, which doesn't have the feature set of the model. The only lot that reflects Hornby's feature set is lot 910. Interesting. Any thoughts on the discrepancies between: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html and the information published in the listing in the July 1976 MRC? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Any thoughts on the discrepancies between: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html and the information published in the listing in the July 1976 MRC? That would require someone to correlate the two, and to compare with GWRJ material as well. Any volunteers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Ther A couple ended up at Low Fell engineers' yard, IIRC, working with cranes and track machines. The one at Heaton Yard may have been there in conjunction with ECML Electrification works; the depot used part of the former coal depot. There were four there at one time including a yellow one, when I worked in Newcastle 1990-3. I have posted pics before before. i will add when I get home from work. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 So, given they now seem to be in some shops, has anyone actually got their hands on one yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Thanks to Hattons, and the Royal Mail, I received my toad brake vans this lunchtime. I'm back elsewhere this afternoon, so I can't have a really good ogle. First impression from me is that it's good- very good. Well done Hornby. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Any volunteers? No ta. I'll stick to my very slow modelling? A lot of what I think to be mistakes may just be simple typos or character recognition errors. E.g. AA13 Lot 817 (65 vans) 56518 to 56582_MRC 56518 to 56632_website ____________________ AA15 Lot931 (100 vans) 68501 to 68600_MRC 68501 to 68700_website ____________________ P Hoping I've typed that correctly? Edited July 12, 2017 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Thanks, Porcy. Those two corrections now done (yes, they seem to have been typos). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Well I'm pleased with it and having seen the samples at Warley last year we haven't had to wait long have we. Underframe. Comparison with Bachmann/Mainline version. Edited July 12, 2017 by gwrrob 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Hello everyone A picture of W68571 (as made by Hornby in BR Grey) appears on page 7 of the book Railways in Profile No.5 - Cattle & Brake Vans. In the panel next to the number, someone has chalked the name: "The Potsmill Flyer" (or maybe Postmill?). Can anyone throw any light on this inscription? It might be a nice little bespoke lettering job for those so inclined. I received my vans today and am very impressed with them. The handrails are very fine as are the front and rear lamp irons. Many thanks to Hornby! Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html Sample numbers and depots for rebranding here but Rogerstone doesn't have another AA15 unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Hello everyone The handrails are very fine as are the front and rear lamp irons. Many thanks to Hornby! Brian Yes and they take a Modelu lamp nicely. The roof planking is also there on the verandah. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2017 Comparison with Bachmann/Mainline version. DSCN1486 (2).JPG The new Hornby version looks very nice, but it has to be said that the Mainline version stands up pretty well too. The Mainline handrails may be solid-backed, but they do 'appear' to be a tad finer than the ones on the new Hornby TOAD. As a 'layout' model, the Mainline one will not look out-of-place if run with the new one. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The Low Fell toads all taken the same day in 1993. There was another yellow one without the end screen on a previous occasion. Mike Wiltshire 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 That's interesting, John. I am looking forward to buying a couple of BR liveried versions of the new Hornby toad mainly, I readily confess, because of the improvement afforded by the separate handrails, but this is not the main issue with my 2 current toads, a Mainline in bauxite nearly 40 years old and an identical Bachmann in unfitted grey bought last year. The handrails, though moulded, are fairly effective because they are nicely picked out in white against a darker background, and give me less irritation than they perhaps should. My main points of discontention with the ML toad and it's current Baccy successor are the brake blocks, not in line with the wheels which screams 'toy' to me and the only vehicles left in service on my layout with this fault, and the awful moulded detail on the verandah. The sanding lever is a bit of a blob and the sandboxes are even blobbier; the shape doesn't quite cut it IMHO and the moulding is simply not as sharp as one might reasonably expect from a modern mould. Such pictures as I've seen of the new Hornby version look fine. I'm happy with the livery and numbering, even on the older one it's up to any modern standard. But I'm looking forward to photographing the new vans in light that shows off the handrail shadows... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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