Barrington Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Pretty sure that the only ones available at present are the DCC Ready models, with the DCC Fitted models to follow in about 2-3 weeks time. Unsure if Dapol are doing sound fitted ones. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: Interesting that in that photo the light blue looks much closer to that in the photos of the models posted above by chris37422. Oh, and it is Bruti Roy I took mine outside to get a natural daylight comparison... And indoor (daylight)... And indoor with the lights on.. and to summice... oh what a big logo you have... what I do like about Dapols 68 is the insane levels of detail.... spot the difference.. Reading the worksplates.. one is Stadler 2950 of 2017 the other Vossloh 2701 of 2015 Edited January 23, 2021 by adb968008 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: one is Stadler 2950 of 2017 the other Vossloh 2701 of 2015 Which has alerted me to a screw up (or deliberate decision) on Dapols part. 023, 032 and 034 next to each other. 032 shouldn't have the Vossloh logo on the front of it when it does. They have the tooling too as 034 doesn't suffer the same issue. A bit of a shame. It could be that they needed to do the same bodies for MOQs but you'd think they'd do the Stadler one and print the Vossloh logo on in that case. When they made 034 they also did 026 which is Stadler so maybe that's why? Edited January 23, 2021 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: I took mine outside to get a natural daylight comparison... And indoor (daylight)... And indoor with the lights on.. and to summice... oh what a big logo you have... what I do like about Dapols 68 is the insane levels of detail.... spot the difference.. Reading the worksplates.. one is Stadler 2950 of 2017 the other Vossloh 2701 of 2015 Well spotted with the wrong builders plate have you informed Dapol . The part is easy enough to change . Hope they offer to swap the part for you . Edited January 23, 2021 by vulcan product fan Missing word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northmoor MPD Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Which has alerted me to a screw up (or deliberate decision) on Dapols part. 023, 032 and 034 next to each other. 032 shouldn't have the Vossloh logo on the front of it when it does. They have the tooling too as 034 doesn't suffer the same issue. A bit of a shame. It could be that they needed to do the same bodies for MOQs but you'd think they'd do the Stadler one and print the Vossloh logo on in that case. When they made 034 they also did 026 which is Stadler so maybe that's why? It seems that 032 has gained a logo on the front, pictures of it from DRS days and early on in its repaint into TPE it doesn’t have a logo but there’s several photos and videos online with a front logo, that’s if I’ve understood your point correctly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Northmoor MPD said: It seems that 032 has gained a logo on the front, pictures of it from DRS days and early on in its repaint into TPE it doesn’t have a logo I think you're talking about the TPE logo. Vossloh ones have a logo bottom centre at each end. Thus illustrated: 68008, 68006, 680032, 680023, 68034 008, 006 and 023 are Vossloh locos 032 and 034 are Stadler. 032 has the logo moulded into it whereas 034 does not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northmoor MPD Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, TomScrut said: I think you're talking about the TPE logo. Vossloh ones have a logo bottom centre at each end. Thus illustrated: 68008, 68006, 680032, 680023, 68034 008, 006 and 023 are Vossloh locos 032 and 034 are Stadler. 032 has the logo moulded into it whereas 034 does not. Ahhh I see what you mean! Thanks for clearing that up I’m new to this modern era modelling! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, vulcan product fan said: Well spotted with the wrong builders plate have you informed Dapol . The part is easy enough to change . Hope they offer to swap the part for you . What's wrong with the builder's plates? 023 was a Vossloh build, 032 was Stadler (who bought Vossloh) Change of build nameplate was between 025/026 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, newbryford said: What's wrong with the builder's plates? 023 was a Vossloh build, 032 was Stadler (who bought Vossloh) Change of build nameplate was between 025/026 I know ive just checked my photos and see its a vossloh built machine my mistake . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, vulcan product fan said: I know ive just checked my photos and see its a vossloh built machine my mistake . The Stadler ones (other than the two currently in it) never made it into DRS compass I don't think, they came out in the plain blue as the TPE deal was already going ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TomScrut said: The Stadler ones (other than the two currently in it) never made it into DRS compass I don't think, they came out in the plain blue as the TPE deal was already going ahead. yeah I have just looked at my photos now I have the laptop I should have known like your txt says from 68026 came in the plain blue and are now in TPE livery apart from 68033 and 68034. Thanks. Andi. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 10 hours ago, TomScrut said: Given they are dearer than everyone else they'll probably sell out last! Yes I thought the same. I think it's that the paint looks that baby blue sort of colour when theres not much light and then becomes the bright vibrant blue when light falls on it. But most photos are taken in good light (given that's what the photographers aim for) and that if Dapol did a colour sample on a real loco the pearlescence wouldn't be picked up well I think. Baby blue sounds good. Quite a muted colour https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/class68tpe I haven't followed the discussion about colour. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purnu Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Barrington said: Pretty sure that the only ones available at present are the DCC Ready models, with the DCC Fitted models to follow in about 2-3 weeks time. Unsure if Dapol are doing sound fitted ones. Thank you for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Willoughby Glen said: For anyone looking for 68019 Brutus and hope don't start a stampede here at checkout but JDM models has a single DCC Sound version in stock £259 plus postage Based on ebay prices for no sound, it seems a bargain!! http://www.jdmmodels.co.uk/digital-sound?product_id=2061&sort=p.price&order=DESC If that's the one I bought last year and returned it isn't in fantastic condition. Might not be but could be worth asking for pics first. I'm not saying don't buy it, might not be the same one as I bought anyway (although they aren't increasing in number "new"). Edited January 24, 2021 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 11:27, Northmoor MPD said: Rather cheeky of Olivias trains...looked this morning they were £155 & £160, just looked again now and they seem to have ramped the prices up to £180! Now offering them for £260 on Ebay, free postage though... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northmoor MPD Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 hours ago, KDG said: Now offering them for £260 on Ebay, free postage though... A little bit Naughty... if all model shops behaved like that I’d never be able to afford to buy anything! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Northmoor MPD said: A little bit Naughty... if all model shops behaved like that I’d never be able to afford to buy anything! if all model shops behaved like that there wouldnt be many left. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Northmoor MPD said: A little bit Naughty... if all model shops behaved like that I’d never be able to afford to buy anything! It is actually worse I think than such as these PS5 scalpers who actually have to be on their game to have anything to sell. This is like Currys etc. selling PS5s at the inflated prices. Thing I don't understand is why everyone is in a frenzy to get these NOW, we have only known about these for the last 13 1/2 months and the AS mk5s for about 18 months! Edited January 25, 2021 by TomScrut 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northmoor MPD Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 hours ago, TomScrut said: It is actually worse I think than such as these PS5 scalpers who actually have to be on their game to have anything to sell. This is like Currys etc. selling PS5s at the inflated prices. Thing I don't understand is why everyone is in a frenzy to get these NOW, we have only known about these for the last 13 1/2 months and the AS mk5s for about 18 months! I can only think it must be down to Accurascale showing pictures of the MK5s have made people order both, other than that I don’t know 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Northmoor MPD said: I can only think it must be down to Accurascale showing pictures of the MK5s have made people order both, other than that I don’t know Possibly. But given the CADs have been shown a whole ago was anybody particularly surprised they look fantastic? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted January 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 I did think about getting one of the latest TPE Class 68’s and order a set of Accurascale TPE MK5’s but because of the perceived difficulty in getting and stupid prices the 68’s being charged, I’ve abandoned the idea. I sometimes feel Dapol should have been aware of this and offered to produce a bigger run than they did so everyone who wanted one at a reasonable price, could. I’m not saying they produce thousands extra but sufficient so everyone gets a bite of the cherry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted January 25, 2021 Administrators Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I sometimes feel Dapol should have been aware of this and offered to produce a bigger run than they did so everyone who wanted one at a reasonable price, could. I’m not saying they produce thousands extra but sufficient so everyone gets a bite of the cherry. Guessing production numbers is a tough job. Produce too many and it hits the company finances, not enough and people moan. Simon K from Hornby has commented just how hard it is to judge. The long gap between deciding on the run length and it hitting the shops doesn't make things any easier either. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, jools1959 said: I sometimes feel Dapol should have been aware of this and offered to produce a bigger run than they did so everyone who wanted one at a reasonable price, could. I’m not saying they produce thousands extra but sufficient so everyone gets a bite of the cherry. Yeah, but they did an EOI to make sure the numbers worked. It's sounds (given they did that) they were being cagey which in some respects you can't blame them. They probably don't know either how many Mk5 sets AS have sold or are going to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted January 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Phil Parker said: Guessing production numbers is a tough job. Produce too many and it hits the company finances, not enough and people moan. Simon K from Hornby has commented just how hard it is to judge. The long gap between deciding on the run length and it hitting the shops doesn't make things any easier either. I totally agree as it must be a double edged sword getting the right number but they possibly knew that demand will outstrip supply. The other side of the coin would be that if people can’t get a Class 68, they possibly would reconsider getting a Mk5 set which could possibly affect Accurascale’s sales. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) On 25/01/2021 at 13:21, TomScrut said: Thing I don't understand is why everyone is in a frenzy to get these NOW, we have only known about these for the last 13 1/2 months and the AS mk5s for about 18 months! I think its down to having too much choice... if I pre-ordered everything I wanted I risk being broke, especially if it all arrived at once. so I dont order at all, save having to cancel later. So some I leave out there unfortunately when it arrives I have to decide on the spot, in my case the 1p, 94xx, trans penine and peaks all dropped together and next month i’ll have a free loco from all those nectar points. Others ive locked in early, DRS20 for instance and pre-ordered. TP was one of those, I have Brutus, I figured 2nd runs sell slow, so didnt bother.. then they landed, I suddenly jumped, I guess my virtual sack of lard jumped higher and faster than the rest of us, as I got mine last minute before they sold out... I always was good at musical chairs as a kid. Edited January 26, 2021 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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