Bluemonkey presents.... Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Lovely you can only better a Western Pannier with another. Great pictures as usual. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Andrew P said: Great pic Kevin, at first I thought you'd left your Glasses case in the foreground. That was original dinghy that came with the Misty steam drifter model, before I decided to use an open one. I sort of placed it here ages ago and it seems to fit so I have left it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcanbomber Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Inspired by the way you have painted your coach roofs Vallejo grey black, I have purchased a bottle myself. When applying it with a brush do you use it straight from the bottle or do you thin it, with water? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, vulcanbomber said: Inspired by the way you have painted your coach roofs Vallejo grey black, I have purchased a bottle myself. When applying it with a brush do you use it straight from the bottle or do you thin it, with water? I cant answer for Kevin, but I use it with a brush straight from the bottle and never had an issue with it. I also use the same base colour with a few shades of brown mixed in as a good underframe colour. Edited March 7, 2019 by The Fatadder 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, vulcanbomber said: Inspired by the way you have painted your coach roofs Vallejo grey black, I have purchased a bottle myself. When applying it with a brush do you use it straight from the bottle or do you thin it, with water? I take it straight from the bottle, a couple of coats gives depth. Sum times I might dip the brush in water and mix in the paint to 'loosen it up a bit'. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, vulcanbomber said: Inspired by the way you have painted your coach roofs Vallejo grey black, I have purchased a bottle myself. When applying it with a brush do you use it straight from the bottle or do you thin it, with water? My advice, though its not worth much, would be to use some acrylic thinners, not water. They really make the paint a lot more versatile and allow several very thin coats, removing the brush-painted effect. Finer modellers than I have also said you can use it straight from the bottle which is true. It depends on the job. Edited March 7, 2019 by Martin S-C 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) You may also wish to buy it as a wash in the Vallejos range or create your own by thinning it as Martin S-C suggests. Using this method will eleviate the usual brush marks generally. Edited March 8, 2019 by bgman 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 hours ago, bgman said: You may also wish to buy it as a wash in the Vallejos range or create your own by thinning it as Martin S-C suggests. Using this method will eleviate the usual brush marks generally. That got me thinking of how different (or similar) is a wash product from/to a very thinned down acrylic paint? My assumption (from ignorance really) is that a wash is designed to do quite a different job which is to employ surface tension to creep into corners, crevices and recesses, while a paint is designed to provide overall coverage. Even thinning down a paint should still give you overall coverage, just less thickly. Some experimentation is called for! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) In essence I agree with you but a thinned acrylic paint can be made to creep about a model by slightly wetting the surface first so an osmosis effect ensues and all the edges, corners etc attract the paint. The other thing I have found with proprietary washes is that they don't always dry matt where as a matt paint thinned will.... The beauty of thinning a paint is that you can determine intensity of the coverage from the beginning and build up as you proceed. Edited March 8, 2019 by KNP 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted March 8, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) No reason, just a picture in monochrome. Edited March 22 by KNP 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2019 I'm a big user of washes to build up the required colours or weathering, but I mostly use Humbrol acrylics diluted with water to a 10:1 or more ratio. I agree with Kev that if you want a matt finish, then diluted matt paints work better than commercially available washes. Al. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted March 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, KNP said: No reason, just a picture in monochrome. Done and dusted. Plain and simple. Black and white. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The classic Great Western coaching livery of light and dark grey with locomotives in mid-grey. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Martin S-C said: The classic Great Western coaching livery of light and dark grey with locomotives in mid-grey. They'll still argue over the shade... 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Before starting on 8700 (to 8701) and then of course working on the split chassis/chip installation I thought I ought to get some books on the Pannier so I know what is what..... Very nice pictures inside and timelines for each loco. Edited March 22 by KNP 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Well here are all the bits now to convert to DCC. Edited March 22 by KNP 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted March 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2019 Not much space for the crew I’m afraid- if they want the job they will need leg amputation unless you perform some mazak surgery instead! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) One likes a challenge plus I like the look of the loco.....I'm even toying with the idea of removing the top feed pipework! See, I now know what I'm talking about now I've got these books? Edited March 9, 2019 by KNP 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Streeting Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 those split metal chassis are a pain to DCC.. i blew up a chip on the first one i tried.. good luck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted March 9, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Yeh….so did I Edited March 22 by KNP 1 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Streeting Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 HAHA ... told you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) The tale of two pictures...... I must say, Jimmy doesn't seem to concerned but then he does have his flat cap on Edited March 22 by KNP 11 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted March 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2019 I split my chassis laughing at that! 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 hours ago, KNP said: Before starting on 8700 (to 8701) and then of course working on the split chassis/chip installation I thought I ought to get some books on the Pannier so I know what is what..... Very nice pictures inside and timelines for each loco. You'll be also needing the one on the 16xx class when Model Rail open their ordering book soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, gwrrob said: You'll be also needing the one on the 16xx class when Model Rail open their ordering book soon. If memory serves weren't they built in the late 40's, bit late for Little Muddle. But they didn't have top feed pipework...…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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