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Ownership of LSWR T3 no. 563 transfered to Swanage Railway


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I've since heard that she will be outside at Corfe for the summer, then under cover for the winter when a mechanical assessment may be carried out

Yep, as I said before, that's what I'd like to see. :sungum:

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Withdrawn 1939, returned to war service till 1945, steamed at 25psi from Eastleigh to Waterloo for the station centenary exhibition in 1948.

 

More here about the class, the class was mostly withdrawn By 1933, 3 continued but only 2 started the war, it's safe to assume it probably wasn't massively used, maintained or repaired during the war and was safely well knackered at wars end, I'm guessing it's probably not been fully works overhauled since the late 1920's early 30's, and was intended as a "last job overhaul", hence the LSWR (rather than replaced with newer SR) stamped fittings found on it.

Lot of assumptions here I know, but look at modern image in the 80's.. diesels were run down, glossed up for the open day circuit, then entered preservation by popularity, but internally are knackered and often dragged about,. why would it be different back then ?

 

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/t3class.html

 

The only reason it's still here probably was due to surviving at the back of a carriage dump for a further 10 years till preservation started to gain traction in the late 1950's and entered preservation due to luck, sheer age and Darwinian survival... City of Truro this is not.

 

There's a picture of it all rusted over dumped outside in the early 1950's somewhere on the net.

 

Edit.., here's the results of my picture sleuthing on google...

 

1948 at Brighton (around the time of the Waterloo Centenary) and first repainting post withdrawal.

https://thetransportlibrary.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/N/S/2/0/NS200951A-600x600.jpg

..1958 at Eastleigh prior to repaint..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/31514768@N05/22728264208

Post repaint in 1958

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/keyword/adams;440/i-6cG2wLp

On its way north in the 50's

https://photos.smugmug.com/BRStandardSteam/BR-Standard-Class-4-260-760007/7600076005-Built-1952-Horwich/7600076005/i-gqvJ9fK/0/XL/76005%20towing%20LBSC%20terrier%20no%2082Boxhill%20%26%20Adams%20LSWR%20563%204th%20feb%201958-XL.jpg

 

And south again at Eastleigh During repaint, in the 1960's

https://www.flickr.com/photos/93456400@N04/15225143139

And Being towed North again to York in the 1970's

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rgadsdon/5533967519

 

The fourth shot (in Eastleigh works) looks like a T9.. note the extended smokebox and watercart tender..

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Eh ? The T3 is over 10 foot shorter than a Mk1

It might be, but you're not going to fit a Mk1 and the T3 into the shed.

 

As the railways priority is (and should be) a community railway,  keeping the railways stock in good order to do that requires the use of the Goods shed. 

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I agree, I'd sooner see the T3 stay at Corfe, maybe with a temporary extension to the goods shed until another building could be added to take it, I'd also like to see the camping coaches re-instated there as well, - what's the chance of that then ?? :sungum:

Thinking on, perhaps the old idea of a building for C&W might re-emerge at the sidings behind 'Kings Court'( the old council workshops/stores) you never know.

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It could do with a cover over the chimney to stop rain entering and corroding the valve chests.  Rain won't do the internals of the smokebox much good either.

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If you look closely at the photo it looks like that has been done.

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Blanked up for a hydraulic test?  Surely not....

 

Nope - most likely to stop the original fittings being stolen. Its quite common on Heritage railways to strip valuable items such as gauges from locos awaiting overhaul to stop thieves making off with them.

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I was thinking boiler test too... Have we any swanage railway members here that could clarify? That paint is looking a bit dodgy...

 

I'm a life member. There's been nothing beyond the announcement of it being gifted.

 

The priorities for the railway are the start of the service to Wareham and getting undercover storage for the coaching stock which deteriorates quickly in the sea air, quicker than the railway can really afford.

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It would be neat to push it around as if double heading....wi' smoking rags dow'nt funnel...

At slow speed, With lots of lubrication to axle boxes, motion, cylinders & slide valves please! Otherwise permanent damage is likely.

 

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I'm a life member. There's been nothing beyond the announcement of it being gifted.

 

The priorities for the railway are the start of the service to Wareham and getting undercover storage for the coaching stock which deteriorates quickly in the sea air, quicker than the railway can really afford.

 

With important projects to fund and complete what would have happened if the Railway had told the NRM, "No thanks, we don't want it"?

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If the NRM had to dispose of her, the bluebell seems a worthy candidate

While I think the Bluebell is a very good railway it should be remembered that it is a former LB&SC line while both the Swanage and Mid Hants are former LSWR lines! The T3 is an LSWR engine so it is really more suited to those lines.

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To stop dirt, water, insects, small stones and all sorts of other crap going down the resultant openings left by the removal of the fittings.

 

The boilers scrap anyway, I would have thought.  Using proper blanks seems a bit expensive.

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While I think the Bluebell is a very good railway it should be remembered that it is a former LB&SC line while both the Swanage and Mid Hants are former LSWR lines! The T3 is an LSWR engine so it is really more suited to those lines.

It isn't on the western region either, but the dukedog is one of their regulars, the t3 would look at home next to their adams radial tank, mid hants wouldn't be a bad option either Edited by Killian keane
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