RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2017 OMG what have I created? I'm soooooo sorry. Surry? Yer dunt no meening oof werd. Wen eye dun summat wrong I were made ter eat coold jellied tripe an' gravel frum metal bucet fer monf. Thars bean surry. Yer namby pamby survners no nowt bowt tit. Thar nose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted October 25, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted October 25, 2017 Someone suggested we have a pinned post with the basic rules in. Well, your wish is our command: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127490-the-brm-cake-box-challenge/ Comes complete with video content! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Someone suggested we have a pinned post with the basic rules in. Well, your wish is our command: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127490-the-brm-cake-box-challenge/ Comes complete with video content! One should always be careful of what one wishes for..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyfoulger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The pinned post fails to mention the 6” height rule and various aspects discussed to date, eg a tall chimney can be removed for storage so long as it also fits within the cakeless cake box, I recall reading some other rule clarifications within the ‘chat’ thread.. for clarity - should they be written in the ‘rules’ thread (the video mentions the 6” rule but I didn’t see in the text) Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted October 25, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted October 25, 2017 The pinned post fails to mention the 6” height rule and various aspects discussed to date, eg a tall chimney can be removed for storage so long as it also fits within the cakeless cake box, I recall reading some other rule clarifications within the ‘chat’ thread.. for clarity - should they be written in the ‘rules’ thread (the video mentions the 6” rule but I didn’t see in the text) Andy I'm deliberately trying to avoid a list of rules a mile long. This isn't a very formal competition and as you can see, there are plenty of grey areas. Splitable chimneys come into this. One would be OK but if the whole model needs to be dismantled then this would be frowned on. Unless anyone goes mad, we aren't going to disqualify a model, and since all the voting will be done by visitors to the thread based on photos, it will largely be up to them if they feel a model doesn't fit within the boundaries of the competition. Come up with a really good idea and I suspect you'll be allowed a little more latitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyfoulger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) ‘Grey rules’ ? c@NnoT C. O. P. E Edited October 25, 2017 by andyfoulger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2017 Is this the Great BRM Bakeoff? Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 ‘Grey rules’ ? c@NnoT C. O. P. E Discrimination against those with Aspergers, OCD, anxiety etc., and neurotypical pedants . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyfoulger Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Oh heck - discrimination ? that wasn't the intention, I was expressing now own 'anxiety' ( I do like clear boundaries / 'black and white' rules etc) Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted October 26, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2017 This isn't Formula One and only lawyers and keyboard warriors want to spend a year arguing the minutiae of a set of rules. I'm sure there will be plenty of boundary-pushing but if anyone deviates a long way from the spirit of the competition (build a model that fits in a box) then I'd expect them to struggle in the voting. My hope is that the winner exhibits a combination of imagination and modelling skill. Looking at the build threads, that's already happening and for that, I'm really grateful to those taking part. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tref Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 A combination of imagination and modelling skills? Geez, I can see already I am going to loose out on the modelling skills, so I'll need to be far more imaginative - pass me that LSD please, I need the same sort of inspiration as whoever came up with the flowerpot men! Seriously though, I think it sounds like a very sensible simple ruling.if it breaks the rules, but the vote says it is so damn good it is deserving of credit, so be it. Tref (in it for fun) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Oh heck - discrimination ? that wasn't the intention, I was expressing now own 'anxiety' ( I do like clear boundaries / 'black and white' rules etc) Andy ... I'm sure there will be plenty of boundary-pushing but if anyone deviates a long way from the spirit of the competition (build a model that fits in a box) then I'd expect them to struggle in the voting. My hope is that the winner exhibits a combination of imagination and modelling skill. Looking at the build threads, that's already happening and for that, I'm really grateful to those taking part. The boundaries of a cake box, size specifed, are fairly monochromatic, unless you're pushing the edge of the envelope! I'm looking forward to all the creative solutions that will pop out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 Is this the Great BRM Bakeoff? I thought that was filmed a few months ago - and showing on Channel 4 some time in October November - well, some time, anyway ... . Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 People just need to use their loaf.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 "Let them eat cake !!" 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2017 I have made two attempts to start this challenge on both occasions I have been thwarted by excess cream staining the inside of the box Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 I have made two attempts to start this challenge on both occasions I have been thwarted by excess cream staining the inside of the box Nick That's called weathering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 There's no such thing as excess cream. I'm sure a good coat of shellac would sort out the stained cardboard, once you've lick off all the cream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2017 There's no such thing as excess cream. I'm sure a good coat of shellac would sort out the stained cardboard, once you've lick off all the cream. alas in my house if Mrs B does not get there first the cat from hell will after either have rescued the excess the box is unusable NIck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How about this? Could be ideal to fit in a cakebox, and is certainly different! https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/923660573719613440 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 How about this? Could be ideal to fit in a cakebox, and is certainly different! https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/923660573719613440 Given the size of the police module, the problem could be fitting a model American car into the cakebox and still being able to see the policeman and his vehicle..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2017 Given the size of the police module, the problem could be fitting a policeman in it... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 With no height limit anymore, it shouldn't be a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2017 Does it really matter what anyone else is doing ? If you want to have a go, have a go. The only real winner will be you. Going back to the 2011 Challenge, I stretched my skills in so many ways, and had tremendous help and encouragement from the forum. I see this as a repeat exercise, albeit with smaller dimensions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm81 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I cant believe hundreds of posts into this thread and everyone is still trying to interpret the rules to see how far they can push them. How hard is it to understand ffs you make a model/display that can fit into a cake box. Not fold in. deflate in. pull a rip cord and collapse in, take apart and store in. or what ever Why is everyone finding this so hard. Rather that encourage me all this "If I open the box this way it will all fold out" etc like the pages of a pop up book has actually put me off bothering to have a go. A simple competition to show case every ones modeling skills is at risk of getting hijacked by those intent on twisting the rules to the extreme. what happened to the good old days where everyone just joined in with the "Spirit of the thing" with out questioning or arguing the whole concept. Steve As the only one talking about folding, this tirade must be aimed at me. Noone has forced or will force you to read my topic, if you don't like it, ignore it. To suggest I'm hijacking the competition in creating such an entry is simply inaccurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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