TMC announce NER G5 0-4-4T

[JaymzHatstand]

7 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

The cloth is there to remind you that red engines are even better.

 

 

It was maybe suggested that one would look nice in crimson!

 

Cheers

 

J

 

[tmc]

Bachmann have now advised us of the price of these models which are as follows:-

35-250Z 2082 in NER Lined Green £189.99

35-250ZSF 2082 in NER Lined Green Sound Fitted £289.99

35-251Z 1759  in NER Lined Green £189.99

35-251ZSF 1759 in NER Lined Green Sound Fitted £289.99

35-252Z 1752 in Lined LNER Black £179.99

35-252ZSF 1752 in Lined LNER Black Sound Fitted £279.99

35-253Z 2082 in Lined LNER Black £179.99

35-253ZSF 2082 in Lined LNER Black Sound Fitted £279.99

35-254Z 67263 in BR Lined Black Early Crest £179.99

35-254ZSF 67263 in BR Lined Black Early Crest Sound Fitted £279.99

35-255Z 67342 in BR Lined Black Early Crest £179.99

35-255ZSF 67342 in BR Lined Black Early Crest Sound Fitted £279.99

35-256Z 67282 in BR Lined Black Early Crest £179.99

35-256ZSF 67282 in BR Lined Black Early Crest Sound Fitted £279.99 

35-259Z 67261 in BR Lined Black Late Crest £179.99

35-259ZSF 67261 in BR Lined Black Late Crest Sound Fitted £279.99

Delivery is expected in quarter 2 of 2023.

Pre-orders can be placed on our website.

TMC will be making a donation of £15 to Class G5 Locomotive Company for each sale of 35-251Z/ZSF , the model of the new build locomotive which we hope will be running in the not too distant future.

Edited July 29, 2022 by tmc
Typos corrected

[Compound2632]

There's some stray Ls got in there somehow.

[tmc]

17 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

There's some stray Ls got in there somehow.

Oops..........stray L's removed.

 

Well spotted, thank you.

[45568]

12 hours ago, tmc said:

Bachmann have now advised us of the price of these models which are as follows:-

35-250Z 2082 in NER Lined Green £189.99

35-250ZSF 2082 in NER Lined Green Sound Fitted £289.99

35-251Z 1759  in NER Lined Green £189.99

35-251ZSF 1759 in NER Lined Green Sound Fitted £289.99

35-252Z 1752 in Lined LNER Black £179.99

35-252ZSF 1752 in Lined LNER Black Sound Fitted £279.99

35-253Z 2082 in Lined LNER Black £179.99

35-253ZSF 2082 in Lined LNER Black Sound Fitted £279.99

35-254Z 67263 in BR Lined Black Early Crest £179.99

35-254ZSF 67263 in BR Lined Black Early Crest Sound Fitted £279.99

35-255Z 67342 in BR Lined Black Early Crest £179.99

35-255ZSF 67342 in BR Lined Black Early Crest Sound Fitted £279.99

35-256Z 67282 in BR Lined Black Early Crest £179.99

35-256ZSF 67282 in BR Lined Black Early Crest Sound Fitted £279.99 

35-259Z 67261 in BR Lined Black Late Crest £179.99

35-259ZSF 67261 in BR Lined Black Late Crest Sound Fitted £279.99

Delivery is expected in quarter 2 of 2023.

Pre-orders can be placed on our website.

TMC will be making a donation of £15 to Class G5 Locomotive Company for each sale of 35-251Z/ZSF , the model of the new build locomotive which we hope will be running in the not too distant future.

When I preorder one will payment be taken at the time of preorder, or at the time of despatch?

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

[tmc]

1 hour ago, 45568 said:

When I preorder one will payment be taken at the time of preorder, or at the time of despatch?

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

Hi Peter, No payment is taken at the time of pre-order even though you have to enter credit card details. With some banks the transaction may show as pending for a few days but will then disappear with no payment being charged. When the model comes into stock you will be contacted with an invoice notifying of model being in stock and a link to our payment system which will only take the payment once this is completed; the model will then be despatched. 

Thank you.

[45568]

1 hour ago, tmc said:

Hi Peter, No payment is taken at the time of pre-order even though you have to enter credit card details. With some banks the transaction may show as pending for a few days but will then disappear with no payment being charged. When the model comes into stock you will be contacted with an invoice notifying of model being in stock and a link to our payment system which will only take the payment once this is completed; the model will then be despatched. 

Thank you.

Thank you, order for 67282 placed, now the waiting begins!

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

Edited July 30, 2022 by 45568
numerodyslexic

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, 45568 said:

now the waiting begins!

 

I've been waiting (cheerfully) since placing my pre-order on 24 Feb 2018!

 

No payment was made at that time.

[AY Mod]

 

I'd class myself as lucky to have one of these decoration samples on my desk for testing at the moment; it really is a pretty little loco.

 

No worries from me looking at the shade of green either but it's big surprise, for me, is its performance which far superior to the Midland 0-4-4T. I've been running it with 10 Bachmann Mk1 coaches around a R3 circuit without any problem, just a hint of slip if you are too heavy-handed on the controller.

 

 

 

[D5158]

Many thanks for posting Andy.  I look forward to receiving one of these,  plus two in BR livery. This one does look rather splendid and your running test implies more than apply haulage capability.

 

 

Excellent.
 

[AY Mod]

I've just noticed the cab steps are little wayward in the pictures above; they easily moved back into position but it's undoubtedly from a lot of handling.

[The Black Hat]

Shes looking gorgeous. Thanks to Andy for the review. Looking forwards to getting mine. 

[Barry O]

1 hour ago, AY Mod said:

 

I'd class myself as lucky to have one of these decoration samples on my desk for testing at the moment; it really is a pretty little loco.

 

No worries from me looking at the shade of green either but it's big surprise, for me, is its performance which far superior to the Midland 0-4-4T. I've been running it with 10 Bachmann Mk1 coaches around a R3 circuit without any problem, just a hint of slip if you are too heavy-handed on the controller.

 

 

 

Can you pass it on once you're finished with it?    Please???

Baz

[AY Mod]

Just now, Barry O said:

Can you pass it on once you're finished with it?    Please???

 

It's going to be safely locked back in the vault. :D

[Barry O]

Just now, AY Mod said:

 

It's going to be safely locked back in the vault. :D

Pah!!!

[Barry O]

Been and ordered a NER version today!  

 

Baz

[46444]

I popped into TMC to pick up a few bits on Thursday afternoon. Always worth a visit and a good day out on the Moor.

 

I saw these G5's in the display case next to the till area. I must say they do look superb with lovely detail and finish.

 

I did ask about the chances of a BR/GER example appearing in the future. The answer understandably was possibly in the future but no confirmed plans yet. 

 

Out of the BR versions to be produced would it be possible to renumber one as as an BR/GER example?

 

Or is it a case of patiently waiting?

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2022 by 46444

[tmc]

On 20/08/2022 at 16:50, 46444 said:

I popped into TMC to pick up a few bits on Thursday afternoon. Always worth a visit and a good day out on the Moor.

 

I saw these these G5's in the display case next to the till area. I must say they do look superb with lovely detail and finish.

 

I did ask about the chances of a BR/GER example appearing in the future. The answer understandbly was possibly in the future but no confirmed plans yet. 

 

Out of the BR versions to be produced would it be possible to renumber one as as an BR/GER example?

 

Or is it a case of patiently waiting?

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

 

 

Hi Mark,

You are not the only one who has enquired about the possibility of either a GE area or Scottish area based G5. Indeed at the start of this commission we included both in the range but made the decision in November 2020 to discontinue both [see our post above on 10th November 2020] simply because the cost of doing one or both of them would not have been commercially cost effective due to the additional tooling required to make them accurate, so it might be a very patient wait........but please read on.

 

Renumbering is something TMC have routinely done for customers since we started business, so yes one could be renumbered BUT it really all depends on how accurate you want the loco to be. The G5 is far more complex than it appears at first sight, every single one of the eight models being produced is different in its detail, but even so the tooling we have cannot accurately represent every loco in the class, or in some cases at every stage of its life

 

The first issue with the GE locos is that they were push/pull fitted but with a different type of gear to that fitted to remainder of class, then they had a different type of bunker with a cage back but no cage and they had an additional steam supply pipe from the cab to the boiler. Unlike most of the class that survived to mid 1950's it seems that they retained a Diagram 69 boiler [apart perhaps from 67279 - further study of photographs would be needed to confirm], so a simple renumber wouldn't necessarily work in all cases. Whistle positions also vary.

 

The Scottish locos present similar challenges with boiler type, additional steam supply pipe and bunkers and in all cases a different safety valve arrangement.

 

However we don't give up easily so between now and when the locos arrive next year we are looking at whether our workshop could cost effectively convert any of the standard models to a GE area or a Scottish area model. That is why you were given the answer you received in the shop. Hopefully this rather more detailed reply will assist in understanding the complex nature of loco commissions. We don't intend to update further on the subject matter of this post, but if our workshop [once the locos arrive] does produce a GE area or Scottish area loco they will of course appear on our website and here.    

 

We are glad you liked what you saw in the display cabinet and hopefully a customised one for GE area might join them in the future.

 

All the best.

 

Team TMC

[Paul Cram]

Could you tell me what the distance is between the inside faces of the splashers as I model in P4 and a lot of rtr locos don't have sufficient room for P4 wheelsets?

 

 

[DougN]

Just building a NER BTP / LNER G6 Kit  and looking at the variations that are possible with that class which was the precursor to the G5.  I can understand that the G5's ended up carrying so many different variations for a "standard" class.  It is the one thing I have realized current manufacturing and tolerances etc have standardized alot of heavy industry let alone cars etc where The G5 and any locos built in the NER period and then maintained into the  LNER period through BR had a habit of being modified due to boilers wearing out etc , and work shop practices so a standard class shows lots of variation due to maintenance and running requirements.  

 

I commend TMC for stating the reason they can't do "at manufacture" more variants. 

 

I can also see the family resemblance with the BTP's but they had so many variants that I am positive that no manufacturer would take them on. Wheel sizes x4, sandboxes that moved on the foot plate, Splasher with integral sand boxes, Splashers which were plated over, different holes to the splashers or plain,  different boilers, different rivet layouts, hand rails of different lengths and heights...  

 

I Cant seem to rotate the photos! 

 

[tmc]

16 hours ago, Paul Cram said:

Could you tell me what the distance is between the inside faces of the splashers as I model in P4 and a lot of rtr locos don't have sufficient room for P4 wheelsets?

 

 

Hello Paul

No problem at all, we measure it to be 21mm.

 

 

All the best

Alex

[Bucoops]

So - anyone up for doing a 3D print of the GE area push/pull gear? 😇

[Jol Wilkinson]

3 hours ago, tmc said:

Hello Paul

No problem at all, we measure it to be 21mm.

 

 

All the best

Alex

 

With the maximum 17.75mm B2B and 2.00mm tyre width (times two) totalling 21.75mm, then some machining of the insides of the splasher will be needed to fit P4 (and possibly EM) wheels. With a cast or moulded body and accurate width over the outside of the splashers it is probably inevitable.

[Paul Cram]

5 hours ago, tmc said:

Hello Paul

No problem at all, we measure it to be 21mm.

 

 

All the best

Alex

Thanks for that. Refrettably I'll have to give it a miss which is a pity as the livery looks great.

[Compound2632]

3 hours ago, Paul Cram said:

Thanks for that. Refrettably I'll have to give it a miss which is a pity as the livery looks great.

 

Frett not. I have recently seen a Bachmann Coal Tank converted to P4 by careful grinding out of the inside faces of the splashers.

 

If working to a scale gauge and wheel profile forces one to a non-scale width over splashers, one is on the horns of the same dilemma upon which 00 modellers are impaled.