Andy Y Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Heljan LEADS THE WAY IN GAUGE ‘O’ WITH THREE EXCITING NEW PROJECTS Support for British Gauge O modelling continues with an all-new Great Western Railway AEC Railcar, BR Class 56 heavy freight diesel and fully re-tooled BR Class 33 diesel offering new variants of this popular BRCW Type 3. GWR AEC Railcar Image - Brian Daniels To complement the growing selection of Heljan GWR/Western Region steam locomotives, we’re working on the first ever ready-to-run Gauge O model of the classic GWR AEC ‘razor edge’ railcar (Nos. 19-33). The perfect single vehicle branch line train for steam and transition era GWR/WR layouts, these pioneering vehicles were the predecessors of modern railcars and DMUs and retain a cult following decades later. The specification of the O gauge model will include: • Fine detail inside and out, Discreet mechanism, LED lighting functions, Sprung buffers and couplings, Designed for easy DCC and sound installation, Interior lighting PROPOSED LIVERIES 1900: GWR chocolate/cream (white roof and monogram) 1901: GWR chocolate/cream (dark grey roof and GWR coat of arms) 1902: BR crimson/cream (dark grey roof) 1903: BR crimson/cream (white cab roofs) 1904: BR green with speed whiskers (white cab roofs) 1905: BR green with speed whiskers (grey roof) As well as the Gauge O model, we are working on an all-new version of the same railcar for OO gauge, further details of which will be announced at a later date. However, we expect it to have a similar specification and choice of liveries to its larger sister. BR Class 56 Co-Co diesel Image - Brian Daniels In response to strong demand from the O gauge community, we are developing a model of the popular BR Class 56 heavy freight diesel, introduced in 1976. The Heljan model will be based on the later Doncaster and Crewe-built locomotives (56070-135), allowing a wide range of the most requested liveries to be offered. Specification will include: • Fine detail, Twin motors for heavy haulage, LED lighting functions, See-through grilles, Sprung buffers and couplings, Designed for easy DCC and sound installation, Provision for smoke unit. • Expected Release in 2020. PROPOSED LIVERIES 5600: BR Blue 5601: BR Large Logo blue 5602: Railfreight large logo grey 5603: Railfreight ‘Red Stripe’ grey 5604: Railfreight sector three-tone grey (unbranded) 5605: Railfreight Coal sector grey 5606: Railfreight Construction sector grey 5607: Loadhaul black/orange BRCW Type/Class 33 Bo-Bo diesel (Version 2/3) Look out in 2019 for TEN new editions of our popular Gauge O Class 33, featuring updated and modified tooling to create both 1960s to 1980s and late BR/early privatisation era versions with high-intensity headlights and cab radio roof pods. Expected Release: Early-2019. SRP: £549.00 each VERSION 2: 1960s to 1980s 3393: Original BR green 3394: BR Green with small yellow warning panels 3395: BR Green with full yellow ends 3396: BR Blue with full yellow ends VERSION 3: Late-1980s to 2000s 3400: BR Blue with full yellow ends 3401: BR Civil Engineers 'Dutch' grey/yellow 3402: EWS red/gold 33030 3403: Network SouthEast 33035 3404: DRS blue unnumbered 3405: Railfreight Construction sector grey All versions are available to order now from your local Heljan stockist. All the above information about these projects is subject to change, but more details about the specification and pricing will be announced as the projects develop. Look out for updates on the Heljan Facebook page and in the model railway press. Photographs courtesy of Brian Daniels 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) To complement the growing selection of Heljan GWR/Western Region steam locomotives, we’re working on the first ever ready-to-run Gauge O model of the classic GWR AEC ‘razor edge’ railcar (Nos. 19-33). The perfect single vehicle branch line train for steam and transition era GWR/WR layouts, these pioneering vehicles were the predecessors of modern railcars and DMUs and retain a cult following decades later. The specification of the O gauge model will include: • Fine detail inside and out, Discreet mechanism, LED lighting functions, Sprung buffers and couplings, Designed for easy DCC and sound installation, Interior lighting PROPOSED LIVERIES 1900: GWR chocolate/cream (white roof and monogram) 1901: GWR chocolate/cream (dark grey roof and GWR coat of arms) 1902: BR crimson/cream (dark grey roof) 1903: BR crimson/cream (white cab roofs) 1904: BR green with speed whiskers (white cab roofs) 1905: BR green with speed whiskers (grey roof) As well as the Gauge O model, we are working on an all-new version of the same railcar for OO gauge, further details of which will be announced at a later date. However, we expect it to have a similar specification and choice of liveries to its larger sister. Is that going to be a duplication of the Dapol OO model. Edited September 1, 2018 by gwrrob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 Hi, Is that going to be a duplication of the Dapol OO model. Nope, the Dapol is the earlier curvaceous ends. Maybe it'll spark Dapol into upsizing theirs... Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Is that going to be a duplication of the Dapol OO model. No - a duplication of the OO Lima / Hornby model. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Class 56 thank you god!! Large logo and br blue mmmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If Heljan think about the class 56 design of moulds now, could we see a Romanian cab design and later roof details in the future. I know the 60 didn’t do well for them but this is a real opportunity for them. There were perhaps four different cab shapes. What shall we suggest next Ben seems to be listening. A new too, 47? I’ll give up on my Kestrel request if they keep turning out decent stuff. Looks like I’ll have to keep working and put more shelves up lol.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 No - a duplication of the OO Lima / Hornby model. Regards, John Isherwood. Er.. its O gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Er.. its O gauge. They have said in the announcement that they will be doing the 'oo' gauge version of the angular railcar, later, with the same livery versions as the 'o' gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If Heljan think about the class 56 design of moulds now, could we see a Romanian cab design and later roof details in the future. I know the 60 didn’t do well for them but this is a real opportunity for them. There were perhaps four different cab shapes. What shall we suggest next Ben seems to be listening. A new too, 47? I’ll give up on my Kestrel request if they keep turning out decent stuff. Looks like I’ll have to keep working and put more shelves up lol.... I think it makes more sense to go for the later style , there’s not any liveries they could do on a Romanian one that they couldn’t on a later ? I’m also unsure that the tiny modern modern image O gauge market could support such a minor variant . If they sort the gears out, I could be well tempted by a 33 or 47 in future Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 More b.... great wet railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 More b.... great wet railway. What the fudge ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think it makes more sense to go for the later style , there’s not any liveries they could do on a Romanian one that they couldn’t on a later ? I’m also unsure that the tiny modern modern image O gauge market could support such a minor variant . If they sort the gears out, I could be well tempted by a 33 or 47 in future Agreed but I do like the quirky differences on the Romanian ones like the rubber sealed windows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Agreed but I do like the quirky differences on the Romanian ones like the rubber sealed windows. And the fact that they initially didn't work! Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 And the fact that they initially didn't work! Paul R Lol you’re not suggesting Heljan ones do the same are you. I did look at some pics of Romanian ones side by side and the cab roofs above the windows were all slightly different, no mass production there probably some poor kids hammering them out of sheet metal. In all seriousness I went on google earth to see if electroputere was still there and it is but it’s now a western style shopping complex. There were very few photos of them in Romania, a great subject for a book. So anyway Romanian 56’s have a place too I think, love those big circular buffers and wrinkled body skins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djparkins Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think it makes more sense to go for the later style , there’s not any liveries they could do on a Romanian one that they couldn’t on a later ? I’m also unsure that the tiny modern modern image O gauge market could support such a minor variant . If they sort the gears out, I could be well tempted by a 33 or 47 in future But is a loco introduced in the mid-1970s modern modern image? IMHO it is not even that modern if you really get down to it. And If to most 7mm modellers it is, then I'm afraid it only illustrates just how stuck in the past 7mm scale is. I suspect modern modern image might be defined as any diesel that was not in green livery or that initially worked alongside steam in revenue-earning service. If that is the case, then I fear for the longer-term future of O Gauge. DJP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 No - a duplication of the OO Lima / Hornby model. Regards, John Isherwood. It'd be nice to have a Heljan GWR Railcar in OO scale, their Railbuses and 128s have terrific mechanisms. It might encourage Hornby to release their GWR Railcars as Railroad range items, like they did with the 121s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I doubt the fact something is modern or not is the problem with O gauge diesels selling. I would love some of these models but they are far too big for any O gauge model railway that I could ever build without a lottery win. Add any train that they would realistically pull. So I'm stuck with tank engines and small tender locomotives at most. All my O gauge is stored away as I don't have anywhere to use them. The DRC is a different matter. I can see them selling very well. As for the possibility of a 00 version. Yes please. Even though I've got an MTK kit somewhere.... Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 No - a duplication of the OO Lima / Hornby model. Regards, John Isherwood. I hope they don't duplicate the incorrect door / window arrangement in the Guards / Luggage Area ! ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'd have been potentially tempted by a 33/1, if that were on the cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I doubt the fact something is modern or not is the problem with O gauge diesels selling. I would love some of these models but they are far too big for any O gauge model railway that I could ever build without a lottery win. Add any train that they would realistically pull. So I'm stuck with tank engines and small tender locomotives at most. All my O gauge is stored away as I don't have anywhere to use them. The DRC is a different matter. I can see them selling very well. As for the possibility of a 00 version. Yes please. Even though I've got an MTK kit somewhere.... Jason Even the 10’ wall I have available for OO could support a 33 and a few 16 toners from a shunting plank. What puts me off is the level of detailing and weathering I’d have to achieve to make something look good in O. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 But is a loco introduced in the mid-1970s modern modern image? IMHO it is not even that modern if you really get down to it. And If to most 7mm modellers it is, then I'm afraid it only illustrates just how stuck in the past 7mm scale is. I suspect modern modern image might be defined as any diesel that was not in green livery or that initially worked alongside steam in revenue-earning service. If that is the case, then I fear for the longer-term future of O Gauge. DJP[/quote I think O gauge modern has a place, but I’m told the O gauge guild shows show the O gauge demographics are firmly older and steam I’m slightly worried bu the assertion that the 60 didn’t sell well ( true ? Who knows ) as that spans 90s to current with as wider liveries as you could want. And the failure of JLTRT tells us what ? I’m not certain , but that there is room for only one or two players in this area ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2018 Nice looking items. Typo in the title by the way. Heljan not Helajn. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Hatton's are already taking pre orders for the 00 version. https://www.hattons.co.uk/400817/Heljan_19400_GWR_AEC_diesel_railcar_in_GWR_chocolate_and_cream_with_grey_roof_and_coat_of_arm/StockDetail.aspx Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I’m a sucker for the GW diesel railcars! Heljan clearly know my weak spot with 9 in the fleet already including a Westward Kit No 18 and a Westward Kit twin set. The OO versions will be hard to resist! No1, a buffet car and No17 would complete all variants. Oh dear, time to hide under a rock and chant incessantly. Better start saving instead as resistance will be futile!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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