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The Shrunken Royal Navy


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@#$@#$ Submarine w@#$'ers

 

:)

 

In (ex) RN news, the 2400's/U boats managed.... 0 days at sea last year.

 

And if I remember, I will post the link to the Canadian Maritime Engineering Journal, which is now on the internet.  It's been available digital for a while for those of us on DWAN, but now it's on the 'net.

 

Peach, the retired stoker.

 

 

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6 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

The nuclear boats are reasonably spacious, or at least no more cramped than many of the offshore vessels I am familiar with. 

I could certainly walk through quite a lot of a T class nuclear boat with no need at all to bend although I am (was) a couple of inches shorter than 6ft.

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1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said:

I could certainly walk through quite a lot of a T class nuclear boat with no need at all to bend although I am (was) a couple of inches shorter than 6ft.

No problems in Astute then!

Baz

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I note the in-service date for Type 31 is now 2027, first hull in water in 2023. Not quite sure why it should take 7 years to complete quite a simple ship when the difficult bits (the mission systems) are pretty low end, off the shelf or recycled.

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An article in Save the Royal Navy about the "frigate factory" being built at Rosythe.  Some interesting stuff in here; for one thing I did not know that HMS Duncan was the last British warship to be launched the old fashioned way i.e. sliding down a slipway in 2010. Hope you find this of interest.

 

https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/britain-gets-a-new-frigate-factory/

 

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I am not sure that many overseas customers will be interested in buying affordable frigates from us. At the lower end it is often a gateway to developing a local capability to build warships to build less complex ships. And countries like China and Korea offer some sound designs and have more shipbuilding expertise and experience than us. Turkey also has a big export ambition. 

 

Mind you, the UK MoD proved with the new RFA tankers that even Korean built ships will become a mess when the MoD is involved. I am not sure whether to laugh or cry at what happens when the worlds preeminent ship builders with a reputation for high quality build something for the MoD.

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Not RN but there has been another burst of press interest in the Chinese JARI autonomous warship lately:

 

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/jari.htm

 

It's interesting that whereas Western navies are mainly developing autonomous vessels for things like mine counter measures, surveillance and low end security type roles the Chinese seem to be developing a much more powerful military design to operate with in high threat environments with more capable surface ships.

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17 hours ago, pete_mcfarlane said:

This is quite an interesting read.

https://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.com/2020/02/mama-mia-here-we-go-again-why-royal.html

(And spot the swipe at Lord West and and his rent-a-quotes blaming current warship shortages on everyone else)

 

Of note:

 

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The first question is a simple one – how many escorts will the Royal Navy have between 2023 and 2027? On paper the force is mandated to be 19 escorts strong, with a desire to grow this out at some point in the 2030s, probably back up to the 20-plus figure. That of course, assumes that the next SDSR retains this ambition.

 

Sir! I wish to complain. It doesn't say which kind of escorts they mean. The budget might only stretch as far as the RS2000 version.

 

Other kinds are available in Plymouth.

https://www.vivastreet.co.uk/escort/plymouth

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57 minutes ago, Allegheny1600 said:

Oo-er, missus!

I really should have thought about the implications before clicking on that link!

Mind, £100 - £120 per hour, they must be highly "qualified"!

:diablo_mini:

 

That seems to be the going rate for project managers with special "hands-on" skills and experience with military.

 

Let's hope there's no more personnel cut-backs to pay for the new toys. Otherwise there'll be a lot of seamen discharged in Plymouth.

 

MOD Plod icon?

:stop:

 

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