RMweb Gold 97406 Posted November 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Islesy said: Unfortunately John, that doesn't always seem to be the case.... 37043 being a prime example. A bizarre choice that the other manufacturer made when there’s been so many other LL split box 37s to choose from. I’m quite happy to wait a couple of months and save some wedge, too! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Andy7 said: With respect, if you just like to run model trains (as do I), the details don’t sound to be of that much importance to you as they are to me. Not meant as a slight on you but horses for courses and all that. If you renumbered 402 to 418 most wouldn’t notice it wasn’t 100% accurate or indeed be that bothered. Running a renumbered loco with a slight detail mismatch in my view is nothing like as heinous as hauling a totally mismatched rake of wagons or coaches. Back in the day when Hornby released their TOPE CLAM and RUDD in the erstwhile Dutch livery. I wonder how many modellers knew that the latter were airbraked whilst the others were vac braked, despite all being converted from 21T coal wagon donors. Or even, do many modellers recognise a CLAM from a RUDD ? By this time these vehicles were in use there were very very few trains that were not fully braked, thereby needing a brakevan, and also by this time plough brakes (Sharks) were literally a wagon for ploughing the ballast, and sometimes a handy mobile messroom for engineers staff, but were not authorised to be used as a brakevan at the rear of a not fully fitted freight train. Most Sharks were built with vacuum brakes, but latterly a few were retro modified with air brakes (ZUA) or an additional air pipe to the vac brake (ZUW). The bogie ballast hoppers started with SR Walrus which were vacuum braked, then the BR Sealions which were dual braked (YGH). Variants of the Sealions were Seacows which were air braked and vac piped (YGB), then BR acquired a small batch of Whales which were air only. As the use of vac brakes diminished, wagons receiving heavy maintenance saw the equipment either isolated or removed, so YGHs became either YGBs or YGAs. Etc etc Anyway, I digressed and intended to say that one of the most useful ballast wagons that Accurascale could produce would be the Catfish (ZEV) and the ex WR Herring (ZLV) Edited November 21, 2022 by Covkid 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Covkid said: Running a renumbered loco with a slight detail mismatch in my view is nothing like as heinous as hauling a totally mismatched rake of wagons or coaches. Back in the day when Hornby released their TOPE CLAM and RUDD in the erstwhile Dutch livery. I wonder how many modellers knew that the latter were airbraked whilst the others were vac braked, despite all being converted from 21T coal wagon donors. Or even, do many modellers recognise a CLAM from a RUDD ? By this time these vehicles were in use there were very very few trains that were not fully braked, thereby needing a brakevan, and also by this time plough brakes (Sharks) were literally a wagon for ploughing the ballast, and sometimes a handy mobile messroom for engineers staff, but were not authorised to be used as a brakevan at the rear of a not fully fitted freight train. Most Sharks were built with vacuum brakes, but latterly a few were retro modified with air brakes (ZUA) or an additional air pipe to the vac brake (ZUW). The bogie ballast hoppers started with SR Walrus which were vacuum braked, then the BR Sealions which were dual braked (YGH). Variants of the Sealions were Seacows which were air braked and vac piped (YGB), then BR acquired a small batch of Whales which were air only. As the use of vac brakes diminished, wagons receiving heavy maintenance saw the equipment either isolated or removed, so YGHs became either YGBs or YGAs. Etc etc Anyway, I digressed and intended to say that one of the most useful ballast wagons that Accurascale could produce would be the Catfish (ZEV) and the ex WR Herring (ZLV) Herrings? Nooooo already got a complete shoal of the blighters …. As have others. They are great characterful little wagons…. Mind you, accurascale could go to town on the brake gear , it’s not easy on the kit! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said: Herrings? Nooooo already got a complete shoal of the blighters …. As have others. They are great characterful little wagons…. Mind you, accurascale could go to town on the brake gear , it’s not easy on the kit! Sorry to go (a little) O/T but Mr Bullock is also to be commended for pretty accurately capturing the colour of Tintern Quarry stone. A lesson in accurate wagon loads for everyone to note. 😇 Edited November 21, 2022 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted November 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil Bullock said: Herrings? Nooooo already got a complete shoal of the blighters …. As have others. They are great characterful little wagons…. Mind you, accurascale could go to town on the brake gear , it’s not easy on the kit! Is the one that is upside down a Limpet? :) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, JohnR said: I'm just saying it would be helpful if they told us what those variations are Accurascale and Bachmann do this I believe, it's listed on the AS pages what toolings etc used on a loco IIRC. Unsure how comprehensive it is. 17 hours ago, JohnR said: and a list of other locos with the same variations. That's the bit that would take too much work for little benefit in my opinion. Like in the case of present day 37, maybe doable. 2000 and earlier, no chance IMO, too many differences across too many locos. Edited November 21, 2022 by TomScrut 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted November 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Accurascale do this I believe, it's listed on the AS pages what toolings etc used on a loco IIRC. Unsure how comprehensive it is. Each version we produce lists out the specific variations unique to that individual model, for example: Class 37/4 - 37409 "Lord Hinton" 2018-present BR Large Logo livery Centre headcode nose with headlight, large LED tail lights and MW socket Refurbished 'split' nose grilles Nose aerial Cutaway bufferbeam cowling with oval buffers ETH bufferbeam configuration with ETH/air/vac/control/MW pipes Toughened windscreens with as built cab layout Plated bodyside windows (both sides) Welded roof with plated boiler exhaust and small cab roof vent Fabricated bogies Boiler water tank converted to long range fuel tank Late EE cantrail grilles Plated bodyside water filler and associated steps Optional miniature snowploughs Triple cab door kickplate 15 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted November 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2022 37043 on the stand 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Any photos of 'the chains'? Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted November 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Any photos of 'the chains'? Al. I expect there will be a link to those soon. 1 3 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, atom3624 said: Any photos of 'the chains'? Al. * Distant relative to one of the team dont you think ? 😀 Edited November 28, 2022 by adb968008 * Wiki url. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2022 I did get a picture of the roof section removed… 11 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2022 no, sorry, very poor, looks nothing like a 37 inside! 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: I did get a picture of the roof section removed… Thank you for sharing the photos, I couldn’t get to Warley so I really appreciate this. These 37s are looking superb and there is so much attention to detail. We are in for a treat. Kind Regards, Danny. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 27/11/2022 at 09:14, E100 said: 37043 on the stand Car type headlight looks on the large size, is this example pre or post reducing it's size ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted November 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, tractor_37260 said: Car type headlight looks on the large size, is this example pre or post reducing it's size ? this is the original decorated sample pre correction. 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Still going to put a nudge in for a 37 with the CWL style of headlamp 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Hi, Am I correct in thinking that invoices are being sent out for 37s? I’ve seen mentions of it and I just want to decide if I can buy another 92 or have to pay for a 37 :) Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted December 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, St. Simon said: Hi, Am I correct in thinking that invoices are being sent out for 37s? I’ve seen mentions of it and I just want to decide if I can buy another 92 or have to pay for a 37 :) Simon Batch 2 of the 37 will be here in about 40 days so those balance invoices have been raised but are not due until late January. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, McC said: Batch 2 of the 37 will be here in about 40 days so those balance invoices have been raised but are not due until late January. Blimey, I had batch 2 down as March, excellent if you’ve bettered that by two months! I’ll hold my money for them then! Thanks, Simon Edited December 6, 2022 by St. Simon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted December 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, McC said: Batch 2 of the 37 will be here in about 40 days so those balance invoices have been raised but are not due until late January. So batch 2 in 40 days so batch 1 sooner or has batch 2 overtaken batch 1 and we are having some kind of batch race (could batch 3 be coming up the rail on the inside about a length behind)! Sorry losing the plot somewhere. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted December 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2022 Lol. The batches are all still in order. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywhizz Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, McC said: Batch 2 of the 37 will be here in about 40 days so those balance invoices have been raised but are not due until late January. Have invoices been sent out for batch 1 orders? Not seen an email? kind regards Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted December 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, billywhizz said: Have invoices been sent out for batch 1 orders? Not seen an email? kind regards Bill. A while ago yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywhizz Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, McC said: A while ago yes. Oh. Thanks. I did ask on the stand at Warley and was told they would be sent out soon. How are the invoices sent out? Is it by email? kind regards. Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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