RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 I’m thinking of a fictional loco hauled set rather than bashing a power car onto a NDM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 hours ago, MoonM said: Who did you convince to swap with? Presume someone's just displaying and happy with no power? When I first read that the 7 car pack had a dummy NDM I purchased the separate motorised NDM. This is what I swapped the dummy with. The dummy will join an RTC test train… No issues with driveshafts etc. identified so far with the NDMs. They will go on the rolling road later today. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Quality control does seem to be a problem on this model and its not really good enough. Paul R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2022 Reading the above posts has given me an idea. I’ve always wanted an APT and have got a 5 car set. My layout doesn’t have overhead wires, but if I can find an unpowered power car, I could swap it with the powered one and tow it round the layout behind a diesel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 hours ago, PaulRhB said: U sometimes have mad ideas when you spot bargains . . . contact apt-e, he might be able to sell you some 3d printed interiors from his TS/TF. Shame Hornby seem to have based their interior on S2 from the test train (the one hauled by the hst prototype power car) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, RedgateModels said: contact apt-e, he might be able to sell you some 3d printed interiors from his TS/TF. Shame Hornby seem to have based their interior on S2 from the test train (the one hauled by the hst prototype power car) Im not sure I’ll take it that far and as I’m disconnecting the lights it hopefully won’t be that apparent running One of those problems I’ll address if it starts to bother me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, ColinK said: Reading the above posts has given me an idea. I’ve always wanted an APT and have got a 5 car set. My layout doesn’t have overhead wires, but if I can find an unpowered power car, I could swap it with the powered one and tow it round the layout behind a diesel. https://flic.kr/p/8SCQmH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, ColinK said: Reading the above posts has given me an idea. I’ve always wanted an APT and have got a 5 car set. My layout doesn’t have overhead wires, but if I can find an unpowered power car, I could swap it with the powered one and tow it round the layout behind a diesel. You could just disconnect the drive shafts from the motor in the NDM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Rossington Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Called gaugemaster this morning, they have no spare sets. Not exactly surprising considering how difficult it apparently is for retailers to get stuff from Hornby. The set has also officially been discontinued so they can't even order one from Hornby for me. The best they could do is reserve me an individual NDM from the next batch due in summer! Hopefully Hornby can sort the issue in the mean time. Edited January 29, 2022 by Rob Rossington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2022 36 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: You could just disconnect the drive shafts from the motor in the NDM. If there's a worm on the top of the gear tower, then that needs to be removed as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 14 coach APT formation in the shed this morning. I had both NDMs running on the rolling roads for a couple of hours - running in both directions with no issues. Cheers Darius 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 The Hunt magnetic couplings arrived today so I put one on each end of a coach to see how close they couple. They were a bit too short to pivot so I filed off a little of the bogie end pretty close but I reckon I can go even closer with a bar and pin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 Another faulty one here - a 5-car set. Loose bits in the NDM packaging - a maroon pivot bearing, and a bit of sticky plastic. NDM looked ok though - no drooping bogies and driving wheels are meshed with the gears. So I ran it - half a circuit later, stopped with smoke pouring out. Also issues with NDM couplers being broken or badly formed - neither would snap together properly. Had to swap them over with spares to get the set together. In two minds whether to get a replacement NDM, or ship the whole lot back to the shop, including last years coaches. The quality is not what I expected at this price point. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 hours ago, PaulRhB said: The Hunt magnetic couplings arrived today so I put one on each end of a coach to see how close they couple. They were a bit too short to pivot so I filed off a little of the bogie end pretty close but I reckon I can go even closer with a bar and pin. will you be 3d printing yourself a coupling bar? because i'd totally buy one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) There was a Christmas film I remember when I was a kid (Santa Claus The Movie I think?!) with an elf played by Dudley Moore (again I think?!) where he automated the toy production but after delivery by Santa most fell apart as they were poorly built! I remember there was a scene where all the broken toys were returned and came down the chimney in a heap! I wonder if Simon K has a chimney? I’m certainly imagining an endless supply of knackered, poorly built APTs falling down into his fireplace!! They’re for keeps - yeah right! Edited January 29, 2022 by Global 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 22 hours ago, charliepetty said: Just fitted one with three 8 Pin decoders, the powered car has a standard V5, why do Hornby not learn anything from past errors, it can be done but it has been designed (Re DCC Sound) by designers who have not got a clue sadly, with this APTp model sadly following in the tradition of the Class 71 and the Class 87. It is such a shame in 2022 we have this sort of design errors, over and over again. The website will be updated over the weekend with info on what we have done here. The website is now updated to reflect the model we have with sound and non sound options, you have to be loaded for the delux package, but some will be tempted. We also have some refunds for Pre-Ordered Decoder sets !!!!! https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=68&product_id=319 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, WestRail642fan said: will you be 3d printing yourself a coupling bar? because i'd totally buy one No sorry I’ll just make them from brass. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 30, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 Current test with the U coach is a brass wire ‘staple’ simply dropped into the empty screw holes for the couplings and it works ok. I tested it at 490mm radius on some Kato track but the corridor connectors are hitting. I won’t be able to test it much until later this week but I bent them so the inside distance between the staple legs is 15mm. certainly looks better than this though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, PaulRhB said: No sorry I’ll just make them from brass. righto thats fine with me, i'll probs 3d print some myself, since i'll need to design an adaptor of sorts if i plan to run APT-Qs using the MK4 DVT in place of the planned DAV4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Is anyone else having a problem with their motor car derailing over points. The bogies jump when running toe to heel - conseuqntly I can't go more than 50% speed before there is a derailment My trackwork is PECO Code 100 and nothing else has problems running over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 I tested the Hunt Couplings when assembling the 14 coach formation. As has been posted earlier, I think they are too short, which results in the corridor connectors clashing on curves. Another thing I noticed when assembling the formation is that the magnetic couplings parted when I moved the train forwards indicating that the magnets are insufficiently powerful to pull the rear half of the train. Fortunately it should be straightforward enough to fabricate a fixed bar coupler of the appropriate length. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Another disappointed customer! Got my 5 car set, ran the NDM in on it's own at moderate speed for half and hour in each direction on DC, all fine. Gave it a burst of speed and then it slowed and smoke billowed plus an unpleasant electrical odour. Gutted - will be going back whence it came, direct to Hornby. I am now however also concerned about the separate NDM I already have (got the full 14 cars). Already run in before Xmas but want to test too at full speed. It would appear this is happening a fair bit, a statement might be nice from Hornby. Hopefully a repair too. Best of luck at anyone else similarly affected! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Exploding motors, gigantic gaps between cars, dcc fit, basic interiors, giant capacitors and derailments aside, nobody seems particularly bothered by the bodyside joint line that in my opinion, albeit just from seeing pictures and YouTube reviews, completely spoils the model. I'm wondering why it's not being mentioned? I'd dearly love to have an APT, but the join, not to mention the rip off cost IMO put me off completely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 So where should the join be pray tell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, RedgateModels said: So where should the join be pray tell? I'm not saying there shouldn't be a join, just that it shouldn't be as visible, like on rapid apte! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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