Ron Ron Ron Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Some excellent photos taken at the West Ruislip tunnel portal site, on Skyscraper City. Including a photo of complete TBM sections waiting to be assembled and a pair of giant "wagon wheels"......... https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/hs2-phase-1-london-to-birmingham-140mi-225km-u-c.2014630/page-70 . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Going back to costs, there was an interesting item on BBC Radio 4 news about the costs and options for refurbishment of the Palace of Westminster. The committee to oversee the plans has been abolished and there was an interview with someone who was saying that no one was prepared to make a decision as they would get the blame! Too many people frightened by big numbers again! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said: Going back to costs, there was an interesting item on BBC Radio 4 news about the costs and options for refurbishment of the Palace of Westminster. The committee to oversee the plans has been abolished and there was an interview with someone who was saying that no one was prepared to make a decision as they would get the blame! Too many people frightened by big numbers again! Looking at the state of the place…..and this from somebody who had a job back in the late 70’s to photograph the seating refurbishment, tower and the broken clock mechanism I’d say they took the sensible route, the place is an absolute pit under the old charm style and thick layers of rat shite! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said: Going back to costs, there was an interesting item on BBC Radio 4 news about the costs and options for refurbishment of the Palace of Westminster. The committee to oversee the plans has been abolished and there was an interview with someone who was saying that no one was prepared to make a decision as they would get the blame! Too many people frightened by big numbers again! So they're just going to wait for nature to take its course? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Going back to costs, there was an interesting item on BBC Radio 4 news about the costs and options for refurbishment of the Palace of Westminster. The committee to oversee the plans has been abolished and there was an interview with someone who was saying that no one was prepared to make a decision as they would get the blame! Too many people frightened by big numbers again! The value for money test came back high on the structure, but they could find absolutely no value in the inhabitants past, present or future 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, boxbrownie said: .......the place is an absolute pit under the old charm style and thick layers of rat shite! Now Now ! That's no way to talk about our elected representatives. . 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ron Ron Ron said: Now Now ! That's no way to talk about our elected representatives. . I always thought the saying was that the truth hurts ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 The HS2 website, interactive map has given an update on the progress of the Chiltern Tunnels TBM's. Something isn't quite right with the figures given, which say that Florence and Cecilia have only progressed 5 and 4 metres respectively, in nearly a month. At that rate it'll take over 7 years to complete the tunnelling ?????? The tunnelling rate is supposed to be between 10 and 15 metres per day. ??????? . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said: Now Now ! That's no way to talk about our elected representatives. . Really? Are you absolutely sure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said: Now Now ! That's no way to talk about our elected representatives. . I did get a very odd look from one of them when he wandered in while I was eating my sandwich perched on the afore mentioned seating……apparently no one but an elected representative is allowed to grace those leather covers with their rear end. He didn’t say anything, just a look of disdain as this 20 year old kid in jeans and tee-shirt gobbled a sausage sandwich. Mind you from what goes on now it’s probably not the first time he’d seen a sausage being gobbled down in that chamber Edited February 21, 2022 by boxbrownie 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said: Now Now ! That's no way to talk about our elected representatives. . Only one house is elected, the other house, well I shan't be putting it on here!!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK123GWR Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, boxbrownie said: apparently no one but an elected representative is allowed to grace those leather covers with their rear end. This is true usually true, but there is one exception. MPs are the only people allowed to sit on the green benches except for Members of Youth Parliament during their annual sitting in the Commons. In 2019, this fell between the dissolution of Parliament and the general election, meaning there were no MPs, so the only people allowed to sit on the green benches at that time were 369 teenagers. It was probably the most grown-up conversation in that room for years! I'll now make the usual joke about hot air as a source of green energy for HS2, so that it's at least tenuously related. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 15 hours ago, DK123GWR said: This is true usually true, but there is one exception. MPs are the only people allowed to sit on the green benches except for Members of Youth Parliament during their annual sitting in the Commons. In 2019, this fell between the dissolution of Parliament and the general election, meaning there were no MPs, so the only people allowed to sit on the green benches at that time were 369 teenagers. It was probably the most grown-up conversation in that room for years! I'll now make the usual joke about hot air as a source of green energy for HS2, so that it's at least tenuously related. They probably weren’t allowed to eat their sausage sandwich on them though 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 We were forced to go to that place on a school trip and listen to the inmates squabaling very pleased when we left.We all wanted to go to US air base but three of our masters were involved with CND so that was that. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, lmsforever said: We were forced to go to that place on a school trip and listen to the inmates squabaling very pleased when we left.We all wanted to go to US air base but three of our masters were involved with CND so that was that. So much for impartiality in teaching. Our teachers had much more normal (?) interests. One trip was a week climbing the Lakeland Fells Another was a trainspotting trip to Manchester depots. Next year it was the Welsh Valleys depots. (I missed that for some reason. Sob.) Most of the official school visits were to engineering companies or historical sites. Politics didn't seem to figure on the agenda. Edited February 22, 2022 by melmerby 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, melmerby said: So much for impartiality in teaching. Our teachers had much more normal (?) interests. One trip was a week climbing the Lakeland Fells Another was a trainspotting trip to Manchester depots. Next year it was the Welsh Valleys depots. (I missed that for some reason. Sob.) Most of the official school visits were to engineering companies or historical sites. Politics didn't seem to figure on the agenda. Ah, school trips - amongst them I can count a tour of Filton Works and a stroll through the cabin mock up for Concorde (which weren't supposed to have done). Like Melmerby many were to historic sites or museums. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Richard E said: Ah, school trips - amongst them I can count a tour of Filton Works and a stroll through the cabin mock up for Concorde (which weren't supposed to have done). Like Melmerby many were to historic sites or museums. We didn’t have many school trips, but we did go to Stonehenge once, back then all us kids could climb all over the stones…..we even tried to push one over, oddly we couldn’t get it to move 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: We didn’t have many school trips, but we did go to Stonehenge once, back then all us kids could climb all over the stones…..we even tried to push one over, oddly we couldn’t get it to move Just as well, really, they'd only just finished building it ;-) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, RJS1977 said: Just as well, really, they'd only just finished building it ;-) Oi! Cheeky 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Walmington-on-sea low level, future HS2/NPR station? Looks like an ideal high-speed alignment? I'm keen to see the developments and improvements, not sure this is the right route though! 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Ok, ok. Enough already about parliament etc. That is for the Wheeltappers thread. Back to HS2 matters please. Mike 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Well parliament did approve it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 I believe someone commented, a while back, on how poor HS2's environmental credentials were, suggesting that it would take one hundred years or more to reach Net Zero, despite using electric traction and being more environmentally friendly as a travel option, primarily due to the huge amounts of concrete/steel being used and the whole industry surrounding the construction. Perhaps this Jan 2022 document will bring that number down somewhat, possibly by half: https://www.hs2.org.uk/about-us/documents/net-zero-carbon-plan/ Essentially, three main things are planned - 1. All construction sites to avoid using diesel by 2029, starting with the first site this year. 2. Halving emissions from steel and concrete by 2030, 3. Sourcing zero-carbon energy for traction supply when services start running. From 2035, HS2 Ltd will aim to eliminate carbon emissions as much as possible, and offset those that cannot be achieved by planting even more trees. Ambitious, and open to criticism, but a sea change in what has gone before, and certainly streets ahead of comparable schemes abroad. 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, Mike Storey said: 1. All construction sites to avoid using diesel by 2029, starting with the first site this year. I thought the Curzon Street build was already using electrically powered machinery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Yer,yer, But we still need coal to make the steel and concrete gives off CO2 as it hardens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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