RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted July 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2023 Rails are showing stock of these to pre order if anyone missed out......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted July 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2023 Following on from Mike H’s post, a 6 function 21 pin decoder is required to enable all of the lighting functions. Hope that helps. 3 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2023 I paid my balance on Friday, so does that mean that my model will be dispatched some time next week? The reason I ask is that I'm possibly going away for a few days in the week, and if it's likely it will arrive with me soon, I'll postpone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted July 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2023 3 hours ago, jools1959 said: I paid my balance on Friday, so does that mean that my model will be dispatched some time next week? The reason I ask is that I'm possibly going away for a few days in the week, and if it's likely it will arrive with me soon, I'll postpone. Correct (as per the details on our website) - please email us at info@ etc if you would like us to delay posting your model. Thanks Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Which carrier will be used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Revolution Mike said: Correct (as per the details on our website) - please email us at info@ etc if you would like us to delay posting your model. Thanks Mike Hi Mike, no need to delay posting as I've postponed my trip until the middle of August. Really looking forward to receiving the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted August 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2023 Will we get a confirmation by email to say that the model is on it's way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted August 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, jools1959 said: Will we get a confirmation by email to say that the model is on it's way? From the FAQ section of Revolution’s website: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just (hopefully) pre-ordered a Green one with a retailer who was still inviting pre-orders online. Just hope they actually have stock to allocate. Looks a very impressive model. What functions will work on DC? Any recommendations for DCC decoders (without going through all pages on this thread)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Just (hopefully) pre-ordered a Green one with a retailer who was still inviting pre-orders online. Just hope they actually have stock to allocate. Looks a very impressive model. What functions will work on DC? Any recommendations for DCC decoders (without going through all pages on this thread)? Basic DC functions are headlights / tail lights off / on, and as far as I can remember, interior lights. As for a decoder, any decent 6 function, 21 pin decoder will suffice. Just be mindful that some of the ‘cheaper’ decoders are a little on the large side and may not quite fit in the decoder location. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Revolution Mike B Posted August 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) As some of you may have seen on our Facebook page, or on other forms of Social Media, the 4mm Caroline Inspection Saloons arrived at Revolution Trains HQ earlier today (there’s rather a lot of them!). Our Warehouse Team….read that as Ben….took delivery and tucked them up safely in our unit and we will be processing orders later on this week, or early next week. We would all like to thank everyone for their patience with these, and a few other models, that have been delayed due to circumstances beyond our control. Now…..where’s my Neil Diamond record….. Edited August 1, 2023 by Revolution Mike B 16 1 2 1 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 My pre-order just bounced (retailer's allocation sold out). Just placed a new order with Coastal DCC who confirmed when I phoned they had good available allocation of all variants, if anyone else has waited as long as I have to bite! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) Just to update anyone who is using the model on DC only, and because I wasn’t completely sure that I could remember what switch did what, there are in fact four DIP switches on the blanking plate for DC use. Switch 1 - Directional Headlights/Head codes/Marker Lights On/Off Switch 2 - Directional Tail Lights On/Off Switch 3 - Interior Lights On/Off Switch 4 - Search Lights/Solebar Lights On/Off Hope that helps. Edited August 2, 2023 by Revolution Mike B 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 Also, just to double-check. We'll be safe putting it on DCC without a chip in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Geep7 said: Also, just to double-check. We'll be safe putting it on DCC without a chip in it? No, it will need a decoder for DCC operation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Revolution Mike B said: Just to update anyone who is using the model on DC only, and because I wasn’t completely sure that I could remember what switch did what, there are in fact four DIP switches on the blanking plate for DC use. Switch 1 - Directional Headlights/Head codes/Marker Lights On/Off Switch 2 - Directional Tail Lights On/Off Switch 3 - Interior Lights On/Off Switch 4 - Search Lights/Solebar Lights On/Off Hope that helps. Will an 8 function decoder be OK in one of these (in terms of mapping)? I've got a spare Dapol imperium knocking around (assuming its small enough to fit) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 57 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Will an 8 function decoder be OK in one of these (in terms of mapping)? I've got a spare Dapol imperium knocking around (assuming its small enough to fit) I’m sorry but that isn’t something we can answer. The models were designed to be used with a 6 function decoder and that is what we recommend using. If you wish to use something else then you would do so at your own risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielP Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Revolution Mike B said: No, it will need a decoder for DCC operation. Sorry please could you clarify - if the model is placed on a DCC powered track and a decoder is not fitted there will be no lighting at all?, or the lighting circuits will be damaged?, or it will work as per the DIP switches? Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 I assume when you say 6 function its the "standard" 4 full power and 2 logic level as usually found on ESU decoders and not the much rarer 6 full power functions and therefore one of those MKL versions of the decoders required? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, DanielP said: Sorry please could you clarify - if the model is placed on a DCC powered track and a decoder is not fitted there will be no lighting at all?, or the lighting circuits will be damaged?, or it will work as per the DIP switches? Thanks! We would strongly advise against placing the model on DCC powered track with the blanking plug in place as it may possibly damage the DC lighting circuit. We advise that the model is used as intended on DC only with the blanking plug fitted, or, on DCC with a suitable 21 pin, full 6 function accessory decoder. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kaput said: I assume when you say 6 function its the "standard" 4 full power and 2 logic level as usually found on ESU decoders and not the much rarer 6 full power functions and therefore one of those MKL versions of the decoders required? A full 6 function decoder will be required to access all of the lighting functions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Revolution Mike B said: A full 6 function decoder will be required to access all of the lighting functions. So logic level for the 5th and 6th functions (like most 6+ function decoders on the market) won't work? What decoder do you recommend? Edited August 2, 2023 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, TomScrut said: So logic level for the 5th and 6th functions (like most 6+ function decoders on the market) won't work? What decoder do you recommend? There is no logic on the PCB Tom. A full 6 function decoder is required and the decoder manufacturers instructions should be referred to when fitting. I’m theory, any make of 6 function decoder will work but be mindful that some are larger than others and may be a tight squeeze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Revolution Mike B said: There is no logic on the PCB Tom. A full 6 function decoder is required and the decoder manufacturers instructions should be referred to when fitting. I’m theory, any make of 6 function decoder will work but be mindful that some are larger than others and may be a tight squeeze. If they are hard wired (no op amps on 5 & 6) it will need powered outputs which means "MKL" decoder in ESU world. Zimo are normally switchable but I aren't sure about everyone else. I thought logic on 5 & 6 was the norm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Davison Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) I've got my ESU Lokpilot 5 FX ready to go in..... Edited August 2, 2023 by Jeremy Davison Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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