Northmoor MPD Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Big… Accurascale 1:1 range Edited June 28, 2022 by Northmoor MPD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, SteamingWales said: Hmm. How to interpret "big" Big as in O gauge Big as in big loco/wagon Big as in big range/lots of variants Either way I look forward to seeing whatever will appear Exactly my thoughts. Going with an O gauge Deltic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Northmoor MPD said: Big… Accurascale 1:1 range A good idea... could fit a proper base box into one of them to really annoy the neighbours 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, PieGuyRob said: Fran said it was big...... But I don't think they specified it was rolling stock. Hmm, what could compliment those deltics, 31s and suburban? Obviously the BIG announcement is King's Cross Station building and roof. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium reddragon Posted June 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, The next announcement is in two days, and it's a big one. Place yer bets! Cheers! Fran I was just about to order a loco, I shall wait 2 days just in case! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta_Who Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, R. Knowles said: On a slightly more serious note, it was mentioned in the "Hornby - A Model World" TV series about another unnamed manufacturer who were supposedly working on their own HST model, which of course in turn prompted Hornby themselves into producing their own newly retooled version, as was the case in response to Cavalex and as a result, aborted Class 91. But if true, then I wonder who that could of been?🤔 There's alot of those "what-ifs". Like a Cavalex Class 91 v Hornby. Tbh I don't even mind the new Hornby HST, just haven't picked one up because a) Virgin WCML New(ish) HST is harder to come across b) Price I'm more curious on the long-term viability of their Class 800s. Even for a nicely done new-tool... £500 for a 5-coach set isn't going to win many people over. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainsandtravel Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, The next announcement is in two days, and it's a big one. Place yer bets! Cheers! Fran My money is on the following: HST Class 50 MK1 Gangway coaches. Looking forward to the announcement what ever it is to be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted June 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 hours ago, R. Knowles said: as was the case in response to Cavalex and as a result in Hornby acting fast, their aborted Class 91. I can categorically state that the Hornby 91 was not in response to Cavelex’s, but was part of a long term project, interrupted by the financial meltdown at Margate in 2016. But then again, it’s fashionable to create conflict where none existed…. 4 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Delta_Who said: I'm more curious on the long-term viability of their Class 800s. Even for a nicely done new-tool... £500 for a 5-coach set isn't going to win many people over. Definitely not cheap, but ultimately if one is interested in present day GWR or ECML operations then it's pretty much compulsory. In due course I'll have 2 LNER 800s, a TPE 802 and a Lumo 803. Unless Hornby impose a price increase on existing pre orders I aren't paying £500 for any of them. I ordered the 802 and 803 when they had a 20% discount for club members (when it included pre orders) so I think they are just over £400 IIRC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 hours ago, TomScrut said: Ah OK, I agree with that although how much time that aspect would save I aren't sure. The ends are obviously different, the detailing on the sides (grilles) are different and the roof is completely different. So it's only really the general body profile, the doors and possibly the windows that are reusable? If it's 10% of the CAD work I'll be surprised. I don't design model trains for a living but I do use a lot of 3D CAD. Even then, that's 10% you don't need to do from scratch. But the general shape of the body is a large chunk of getting things right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, frobisher said: Even then, that's 10% you don't need to do from scratch. But the general shape of the body is a large chunk of getting things right. The cross section in terms of CAD is very little in terms of the work involved IMO. I agree it's important to get right but in terms of modelling the thing it's not that much work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Balgrayhill said: I think the cab doors and cabside windows are the only common part between a 60 and a 92, the rest of the shell, roof, underframe equipment, and bogie detailing is completely different. Internally, to capture the see-through feature of the real locos', the chassis block and gear towers would need to be redesigned to allow this details, Im pretty sure AS wouldn't miss that feature out just so they can re-use the 92's running gear The body shell is common between the two (with modifications for the 92) and that means at the very least you have the 92 CAD work as a starting point there. Similarly the chassis block CAD work for the 92 as s starting point for the 60. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, TomScrut said: The cross section in terms of CAD is very little in terms of the work involved IMO. And apparently there are many, many models that seem to fall foul of this. If you've got it right before, and need the same result, it's better to start with "right" than from scratch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, frobisher said: And apparently there are many, many models that seem to fall foul of this. If you've got it right before, and need the same result, it's better to start with "right" than from scratch. I agree, and I don't dispute the importance of it. But I don't see the amount of work as significant vs detailing the stuff that is different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, R. Knowles said: Well I first suggested the idea of a Class 60 from AC a few pages but was rebuffed over the matter of CADs. If they did decide to produce their own version then that would be great! AS would be well placed to do one, but the 60 is one of Hornby's best models so not "crying out" for replacement so not a good bet in my opinion, but a cracker if they do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, TomScrut said: But I don't see the amount of work as significant vs detailing the stuff that is different. If you have a 10-20% saving in modelling costs/times, I'd call that significant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, frobisher said: If you have a 10-20% saving in modelling costs/times, I'd call that significant. A good bonus if you can have it, but probably not enough to make it a no brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRC Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, R. Knowles said: Really, I would like to see them expand on the Class 31 and Class 37 ranges, with more subclass and livery variants. I think that’s pretty much a given and Fran has alluded that round two of the 37’s will be coming in a few months, but this seems like a brand new announcement to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 If 'big' is in an ironic sense, Flying Bufferbeam. 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, R. Knowles said: about the Class 25 Aren't SLW doing one too? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, frobisher said: AS would be well placed to do one, but the 60 is one of Hornby's best models so not "crying out" for replacement so not a good bet in my opinion, but a cracker if they do it. I think it could be quite a while before there's a better 60 retooled, I dont think there's an awful lot wrong with the Hornby effort other than the electrics and painting which are solvable. Another out there suggestion - having seen the quality of the upcoming Mk2b's ... how many Mk1s could Accurascale sell of that quality and ballpark price? talk about cat amongst pigeons!! I dont think there's much to pick between the current Bachmann and Hornbys, but they're middle-quality with prices edging towards higher end at the moment. Imagine detailed interiors, lighting, accurate vb/ab/dual braking details and underframes 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, GordonC said: Another out there suggestion - having seen the quality of the upcoming Mk2b's ... how many Mk1s could Accurascale sell of that quality and ballpark price? talk about cat amongst pigeons!! I dont think there's much to pick between the current Bachmann and Hornbys, but they're middle-quality with prices edging towards higher end at the moment. Imagine detailed interiors, lighting, accurate vb/ab/dual braking details and underframes Always room for more MK1s! Though the MK2c is the next open goal, followed by the MK2 Pullmans. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, R. Knowles said: Can't really pass judgement on that one. Though that version does seem to be a very limited, niche product. The SLW one will be superb when it comes, just a bit of a shame the 24s dont seem to have been available for a while 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, R. Knowles said: Can't really pass judgement on that one. Though that version does seem to be a very limited, niche product. Limited yes but the pricing doesn't seem to be that expensive IIRC, and if the 24 is anything to go by it will be worthy of consideration. 3 minutes ago, GordonC said: The SLW one will be superb when it comes, just a bit of a shame the 24s dont seem to have been available for a while Yes, and IIRC they don't tend to offer preserved ones (24s done so far or 25s announced) which sorta kiboshes the potential for me buying one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium reddragon Posted June 29, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) The only classes of locos not done are 01, DC SR 70 and a few AC electrics. Others are pre-nationalisation shunters. Steam is a crowded market with partisan regional buyers, coaches are nearly full bar Mk2C or better Mk3s. DMUs are well covered but with many gaps in the XC/IC DMU range There's still no track plant, very few EMUs so a lot of opportunity there. Wagons are lacking in the modern end. Car transporters? Nobody makes decent large viaducts, stations or depots. My guess is a working sizable track machine range! Edited June 29, 2022 by reddragon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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