jessy1692 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 5 hours ago, pheaton said: Not all the 68000 series were sulzer some had ago engines, there is a free sound project on the education website which is apparently a sulzer one. Hi Phaeton, I believe the 68000 sounds used is from the ESU file which is the 68000 sulzers..I think. Certainly can tell the difference between the 68500's and the others in clips iv heard. Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Pictures of the Model Rail/Heljan Class 48 via today's Kernow Model Centre newsletter. https://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/100/Newsletter-Current 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17 10 hours ago, BR(S) said: Pictures of the Model Rail/Heljan Class 48 via today's Kernow Model Centre newsletter. https://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/100/Newsletter-Current That’s some serious rivet detailing on the roof. https://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/images/product/Class 48 roof_WEB.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, brushman47544 said: That’s some serious rivet detailing on the roof. https://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/images/product/Class 48 roof_WEB.jpg How do they open the roof hatches to get to the engine without and hinges? This is my model under construction. I also think the exhaust ports are to close together. As there are not many photos of the class 48s I found the Cuban T975 class to be a useful source of roof details. Apart from the cooling group a Class 48 is the same as a class T975. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 20 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: How do they open the roof hatches to get to the engine without and hinges? As there are not many photos of the class 48s I found the Cuban T975 class to be a useful source of roof details. Apart from the cooling group a Class 48 is the same as a class T975. They couldn’t. Like me, the designers were unhinged. 🤣 I found pictures of the roof details hard to find too, despite having a book about the 47s with information about the 48s. You’re doing a grand job there. I see that one of the models originally proposed has been omitted. Now there are just four: small yellow panel and full yellow ends, each with a weathered version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 17 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17 I've seen some video on YouTube of the 47, is it me or is the shape of windscreens wrong. It reminds me of the original Hornby one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Hi, looking forward to the new Class 48’s, any idea which year and month D1702-06 received full yellow ends. Thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18 30 minutes ago, Fredo said: Hi, looking forward to the new Class 48’s, any idea which year and month D1702-06 received full yellow ends. Thanks Fred https://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=D&id=1702&loco=1702 et al. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18 46 minutes ago, Fredo said: Hi, looking forward to the new Class 48’s, any idea which year and month D1702-06 received full yellow ends. Thanks Fred Also check out http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_numbers.php?index=6&jndex=3&kndex=2&s_loco=1702 and the photo section http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_photos_1.php?index=6&jndex=3&kndex=5&s_loco=1705 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted February 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18 Hi Clive, I am very out of date now having retired from the big railway in 2006. Is the class 48 the re-engined class 47 that I vaguely remember back in the day? The Sulzer double 6LDA was never a great idea for long term relaibility. But, I guess, a cheap solution for a type 4 using common parts with type 2 Sulzer engined types. Certainly better than trying to get more power from a souped up 8LDA... Who's engine went into the 48? Kind regards, 30368 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, 30368 said: Hi Clive, I am very out of date now having retired from the big railway in 2006. Is the class 48 the re-engined class 47 that I vaguely remember back in the day? The Sulzer double 6LDA was never a great idea for long term relaibility. But, I guess, a cheap solution for a type 4 using common parts with type 2 Sulzer engined types. Certainly better than trying to get more power from a souped up 8LDA... Who's engine went into the 48? Kind regards, 30368 They were built with Sulzer V 12 engines (12LVA24) but proved less reliable than the double 6LDA (12LDA28C) installed in the 47s. All were re-engined to become 47s before being painted in BR blue and before receiving TOPS numbers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18 (edited) 12 hours ago, 30368 said: Hi Clive, I am very out of date now having retired from the big railway in 2006. Is the class 48 the re-engined class 47 that I vaguely remember back in the day? The Sulzer double 6LDA was never a great idea for long term relaibility. But, I guess, a cheap solution for a type 4 using common parts with type 2 Sulzer engined types. Certainly better than trying to get more power from a souped up 8LDA... Who's engine went into the 48? Kind regards, 30368 9 hours ago, No Decorum said: They were built with Sulzer V 12 engines (12LVA24) but proved less reliable than the double 6LDA (12LDA28C) installed in the 47s. All were re-engined to become 47s before being painted in BR blue and before receiving TOPS numbers. The Sulzer 12LVA24 were unreliable in BR service because one of the tools for setting them up was made wrong by Sulzer. This was discovered by SNCF after they became their property, their tools had been made correctly and the engines went on to have a long service life. Please don't ask me which tool as I cannot remember and it wouldn't mean much to me as I am not a diesel fitter but a retired nurse. Edited February 18 by Clive Mortimore 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie the plumber Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 41 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: The Sulzer 12LVA24 were unreliable in BR service because one of the tools for setting the m up was made wrong by Sulzer. This was discovered by SNCF after they became their property was their tools had been made correctly and the engines went on to have a long service life. Please don't ask me which tool as I cannot remember and it wouldn't mean much to me as I am not a diesel fitter but a retired nurse. Probably a left handed screwdriver 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 D1702 got its 12LDA28C engine from written-off D1908 (which was the 10th Class 47 I ever saw, in 1968 and by pure chance). D1702/3/5 were all inside Crewe Works on 3/11/69 but there was no sign of the remains of D1908 (withdrawn 8/69) which had been cut up the previous month. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19 Back in the pre internet and mobile phone days, we thought this was one hell of a cop in April 1970. Mike. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorz101uk Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I’m surprised Heljan haven’t contacted the owners of D1705/47117? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 53 minutes ago, rorz101uk said: I’m surprised Heljan haven’t contacted the owners of D1705/47117? Given that there's probably very little if anything of the 48 left in it I doubt it would be of great benefit. Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 01/10/2020 at 18:34, No Decorum said: Woo hoo! According to the latest issue of Model Rail, the Class 48 is a goer. Five models, of which two will be weathered. Price TBC, arrival late 2021. MR700: D1702, BR two-tone green. MR701: D1704, BR two-tone green, weathered. MR702: D1706, BR two-tone green, yellow ends. MR703: D1703, BR two-tone green, yellow ends, weathered. MR704: D1705, BR two-tone green. It can’t be ordered yet. The good people at Model Rail are looking (listening?) into sound, using a French 68000 sound file if it can be “anglicised”. So did these ever get produced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIA185 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 29/02/2024 at 21:10, Michael Hodgson said: So did these ever get produced? https://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/c/1814/Class-48-Diesels 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow MRC Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 The Model rail exclusive Class 48s are now in stock and available to order here https://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/c/1814/Class-48-Diesels 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9 Just arrived from Kernow 😀 Cheers Darius 15 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie the plumber Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 They do look the business don't they ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Albie the plumber said: They do look the business don't they ! Hmmm, I don't know, something looks a bit strange with the headcode panel and front end to my untrained eyes. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie the plumber Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 38 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Hmmm, I don't know, something looks a bit strange with the headcode panel and front end to my untrained eyes. Mike. A tad too large maybe ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10 33 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Hmmm, I don't know, something looks a bit strange with the headcode panel and front end to my untrained eyes. Mike. OK….in what way ? The size of the headcode panel has given cause for concern on the main Heljan 47: thread I am aware but I have yet to have any cogent reason given for this. It would be good if someone would enlighten me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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