RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, davidw said: The CAD looks good. I suspect the eventual model will be very crisp. Hornbys details tend to be sharper than Bachmann. It will be very interesting to compare them. Difficult with just a CAD. I pretty much agree. It will be a testament to the quality of Bachmanns model if it and the Hornby model are hard to tell part. I suspect the Hornby model may edge Bachmann on mechanical integrity too - if it has bearings in the chassis it will also outlast it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, davidw said: I suspect the eventual model will be very crisp. Hornbys details tend to be sharper than Bachmann. Along with the years since the Bachmann one was tooled! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Along with the years since the Bachmann one was tooled! Touche... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I've just examined a couple of mine (Bachmann 9Fs) against the CAD. Visually I don't think there'll be much in it. What's interesting is the Hornby versions RRP is less than the Bachmann. It really will be interesting to compare these two. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, davidw said: I've just examined a couple of mine (Bachmann 9Fs) against the CAD. Visually I don't think there'll be much in it. What's interesting is the Hornby versions RRP is less than the Bachmann. It really will be interesting to compare these two. Will we see a price reduction by Bachmann as was the case of the GM 66 prior to the release of the Hattons model I wonder? I've already got 2 Bachmann 9f's and will probably add 2 of the Hornby variants at some stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 It will be interesting to see who introduces the rebuilt crosti first, i think Hornby missed out not making there early version in super detail so hopefully Bachmann may do a retooled version or just rebody there current one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, paul 27 said: It will be interesting to see who introduces the rebuilt crosti first, i think Hornby missed out not making there early version in super detail so hopefully Bachmann may do a retooled version or just rebody there current one. Engine shed said they have the cad designs available to be able to recreate almost all variants within the 251 locos of the class so hopefully that does include the rebuilt Crosti as well. Edited January 29, 2021 by Hilux5972 Spelling correction 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Hilux5972 said: Engine shed said they have the cad designs available to be able to recreate almost all variants within the 251 locos of the class so hopefully that does include the rebuilt Crosti as well. I believe someone said that it was also mentioned in the recent edition of the Collector's Club Magazine that Hornby are tooling up other variations also like the Consett Iron Ore and Crosti versions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) Anyone had their order for one of Hornby's forthcoming BR 9F cancelled randomly by Hatton's with absolutely no reason? I placed my pre-order within 15 mins of them being listed for pre-order by Hattons. Edited February 12, 2021 by MGR Hooper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, MGR Hooper! said: Anyone had their order for one of Hornby's forthcoming BR 9F cancelled randomly by Hatton's with absolutely no reason? I placed my pre-order within 15 mins of them being listed for pre-order by Hattons. The 9F hasn’t been mentioned, but there’s a whole lot of other Hattons/Hornby woe in the other thread: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, truffy said: The 9F hasn’t been mentioned, but there’s a whole lot of other Hattons/Hornby woe in the other thread: Thank you, now I'm having to spend hours looking for a better retailer to pre-order my stuff. Not Hattons again. Edited February 12, 2021 by MGR Hooper! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 New 9F pics on Engine Shed blog. Of interest there appears to be a 'recess' between the frames, rather than the solid look of the previous cads and the Bachmann model. There is a huge wealth of seperate deatil. Assuming the running plate will be metal, and that assembly will be of highest quality (and things like front frame sections which are seperate parts are properly straight and attached, unlike the recent A2/2 etc), this loco will eclipse the Bachmann version. Based on current CADS I'm minded to order to replace my (not that old) Bachmann Evening Star, but will hold off for the EPs for a firm order 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: New 9F pics on Engine Shed blog. Of interest there appears to be a 'recess' between the frames, rather than the solid look of the previous cads and the Bachmann model. There is a huge wealth of seperate deatil. Assuming the running plate will be metal, and that assembly will be of highest quality (and things like front frame sections which are seperate parts are properly straight and attached, unlike the recent A2/2 etc), this loco will eclipse the Bachmann version. Based on current CADS I'm minded to order to replace my (not that old) Bachmann Evening Star, but will hold off for the EPs for a firm order Definitely agree about it looking to eclipse the Bachmann model. Interesting to see each of the 5 different tenders. I bought the 66/9F twin set from Locomotion when it was released. I think that 9F will remain in its box when this one arrives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 28/01/2021 at 21:24, davidw said: I've just examined a couple of mine (Bachmann 9Fs) against the CAD. Visually I don't think there'll be much in it. What's interesting is the Hornby versions RRP is less than the Bachmann. It really will be interesting to compare these two. After examining the Hornby CAD there is definitely more detail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerJohn Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 If this loco is up to the detail standard of their Britannia,which it it must be, it will be outstanding. Might even tempt me to get my wallet out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 27/02/2021 at 03:19, davidw said: After examining the Hornby CAD there is definitely more detail. My assessment of Hornby vs Bachmann is that Hornby have tended to do finer detail but are less robust for handling, e.g. compare their Standard Class 4 4-6-0s. I prefer the Hornby one but it is unwise to buy a second hand one unless it is as new with transit brackets (remember those?) That said, the Bachmann 4MT Standard 2-6-4T isn't exactly robust, either! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 March edition of TES has some updates... https://uk.Hornby.com/community/blog-and-news/engine-shed/full-tilt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) The 9f is simply stunning! As predicted very crisp details. Hope it okay to add these Edited March 26, 2021 by davidw 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted March 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, davidw said: As predicted very crisp details. Hope it okay to add these Rather confusing of them to ptesent 3D renders, which you can make as sharp as you like, with an actual physical EP. I think only the bottom image is actually the EP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, spamcan61 said: Rather confusing of them to ptesent 3D renders, which you can make as sharp as you like, with an actual physical EP. I think only the bottom image is actually the EP. I think they're all renders except the images of the single chimney fitted 3D print mockup, I see why they've done it as it is easier to see the detail than on the the multi coloured CAD shown previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, davidw said: The 9f is simply stunning! As predicted very crisp details. Hope it okay to add these Oh no, my wallet ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: Rather confusing of them to ptesent 3D renders, which you can make as sharp as you like, with an actual physical EP. I think only the bottom image is actually the EP. They haven't had an EP yet. There's only renders and a 3D printed sample to test the fit of the parts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hmm the CADS are fantastic, but then I looked at the 3D print and had a worrying flashback to the A2/2/3s 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, scots region said: Hmm the CADS are fantastic, but then I looked at the 3D print and had a worrying flashback to the A2/2/3s Hopefully, lessons will have been learnt with that particular supplier and been addressed for future productions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Black 5 Bear said: Hopefully, lessons will have been learnt with that particular supplier and been addressed for future productions. At least most 9fs were black 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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