RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 I did ask before but maybe the post was lost in froth? Is there possibly going to be a further release in BR Livery or did I miss the announcements? Thanks Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: I did ask before but maybe the post was lost in froth? Is there possibly going to be a further release in BR Livery or did I miss the announcements? Thanks Phil Nothing more announced other than the 3 EFE and IoW Ltd edition. Always future possibilities 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Pre Grouping fan said: Nothing more announced other than the 3 EFE and IoW Ltd edition. Always future possibilities Thank you. No problems, but as they seem to go so fast I wanted to be alert...the Country needs Lerts. Phil 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2021 13 hours ago, melmerby said: It might be in a brand new and bigger EFE/Bachmann box but still says Kernow on the bottom of the loco! Good that Kernow still get some sort of credit. The DJ-era must have been a nightmare for a minnow-manufacturer, but healthy sales now indicate the products were what the market wanted. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, wightaway said: Yep, got my model from the IOW delivered a few days ago. I hoped it was a bad instance but from what I see here perhaps not From what I can see from the attached photos, one side (white paper) shows a dip of the running plate around the cab. I think the other side (black ruler) doesn't just go up at the end, rather it also dips at the front of the tank and then recovers upwards as you can see from the third photo with the ruler aligned with the bottom of the buffer beams at both ends. For all the rest of the detail it's a shame a fundamental quality control issue wasn't caught for that price. I'll let the shop know so they can feed back. I don't get anything from those links, just a monotone "No Entry" symbol in the middle of the page. Trying it another way (Google account) I get "Malformed address" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I received my stocks today. As someone who is a fan of the IOW railways, I was very keen to see the new versions. A very nice looking model indeed. I think I may have to hang onto one of them! Still have stocks of all three versions www.a2bmodelrailways.co.uk 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightaway Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, melmerby said: I don't get anything from those links, just a monotone "No Entry" symbol in the middle of the page. Trying it another way (Google account) I get "Malformed address" Sorry, it wouldn't let me upload on my PC so I reverted to pasting links which displayed in the editor but only for me it seems! Trying again on the phone. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I like the realistic coal.... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PJT Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldddudders said: Good that Kernow still get some sort of credit. The DJ-era must have been a nightmare for a minnow-manufacturer, but healthy sales now indicate the products were what the market wanted. I agree. By the way, on the underside of the box there's the KMRC logo and, in suitably prominent letters, 'Distributed on behalf of Kernow Model Rail Centre' with the Camborne address underneath. Whatever the terms of the deal were between Bachmann/EFE Rail and KMRC, the packaging certainly gets the O2's origins nicely acknowledged in EFE Rail stockists around the model railway world. Pete T. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 hours ago, wightaway said: Sorry, it wouldn't let me upload on my PC so I reverted to pasting links which displayed in the editor but only for me it seems! Trying again on the phone. Microwave PCB elements? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, melmerby said: Microwave PCB elements? Looks that way, my guess is a sample PCB, to show a fab's capabilities, which can be used as a rule / straightedge, I've collected a few of those over the years. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wood Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 04/08/2021 at 10:50, woodenhead said: @Graham_Muz Is the Maunsell version an early livery sample, the tank sides and boiler seem to be the right shade of green but the back of the cab and the steps seem a different shade. Just received my olive green version (182) and it does appear to have some colour variation as suggested previously, which is a little disappointing. Having said that I do feel, barring some frustrating quality control issues, we are now experiencing a golden age of ready to run OO/4MM products. Long may it continue (or at least until my money runs out). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightaway Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 hours ago, spamcan61 said: Looks that way, my guess is a sample PCB, to show a fab's capabilities, which can be used as a rule / straightedge, I've collected a few of those over the years. Close - it's a microwave ruler from SV1AFN. I also have the bigger one. Lets you see what's possible and how much space it needs. https://www.sv1afn.com/en/pcb-art/?pnum=2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 Given all the wobbly running boards on display, how much more would it put on the purchase price to have them made from metal? Given the way so much stuff is glued to them it strikes me a fundamentally flawed option as distortion during assembly is going to be so much easier. I know some would baulk at the cost, but the way this latest batch has been received by the market suggests a higher purchase price could be tolerated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted August 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris Wood said: Just received my olive green version (182) and it does appear to have some colour variation as suggested previously, which is a little disappointing. Does it look like that to your eyes ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wood Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Nile said: Does it look like that to your eyes ? Under the fluorescent lighting the colour variation is noticeable. I will check this in natural light to see if its any different. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris Wood said: Under the fluorescent lighting the colour variation is noticeable. I will check this in natural light to see if its any different. Notoriously useless for colour comparison unless they are colour matching tubes The problem is the spikes in the colour spectrum emitted by these lights. e.g. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 It is notorious that photographs can’t be relied upon to give a precise record of colour and the lighting conditions cause great variability. However, a comparative shot, such as this one can show up inconsistencies. Colour can even look different on the curve of a boiler and the flat side of a tank but in this case, both surfaces are flat. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightaway Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) I just got a reply from the IWSR shop regarding the wobbly O2 running plates. Apparently the proprietor and the loco foreman have checked the original 3D scans and the real life W24 and they both show the deviations seen on the model. So we can all be happy that we have a faithful reproduction of Calbourne in preservation. As long as you have a model of Calbourne... Edited August 18, 2021 by wightaway 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted August 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, wightaway said: I just got a reply from the IWSR shop regarding the wobbly O2 running plates. Apparently the proprietor and the loco foreman have checked the original 3D scans and the real life W24 and they both show the deviations seen on the model. So we can all be happy we have a faithful reproduction of Calbourne in preservation. As long as you have a model of Calbourne... So we should expect to see this running plate distortion in all the 02 models, irrespective of running number, unless W24 has specific tooling to model the prototype distortion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: So we should expect to see this running plate distortion in all the 02 models, irrespective of running number, unless W24 has specific tooling to model the prototype distortion. No, it’s so slight on my one I had to look along the footplate to see anything, so I’m quite happy even though I know something’s there as I can’t see it side on, and Newport is straight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, wightaway said: I just got a reply from the IWSR shop regarding the wobbly O2 running plates. Apparently the proprietor and the loco foreman have checked the original 3D scans and the real life W24 and they both show the deviations seen on the model. So we can all be happy that we have a faithful reproduction of Calbourne in preservation. As long as you have a model of Calbourne... Hmm, so are we seeing a repeat of the Dean Goods situation Oxford where details picked up by the CAD scan ended up as spurious rivet detail on the splashers? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: No, it’s so slight on my one I had to look along the footplate to see anything, so I’m quite happy even though I know something’s there as I can’t see it side on, and Newport is straight. My 'Cambourne' 'Calbourne' and 'Chale' are much straighter than the Olive version which seems to be the worst affected model based on the photos I have seen so far. Something to do with where / how the detailing is added perhaps? On the IOW versions the air tanks are mounted on top of the water tanks while on 182 they are stuck to the running plate. Edited August 18, 2021 by phil-b259 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, phil-b259 said: Cambourne Is that the Kernow exclusive? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightaway Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Unless some of the versions had the meshes straightened/adjusted and others weren't? I'm more inclined to believe the added detailing causes it if it varies between finishes. My other suspicion was the modern style packaging with the foam only pressing on certain parts of the bodyshell. But I don't mind if nothing else comes of it. I'm happy to tell anyone who notices that the real Calbourne is wobbly too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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