Moderators AY Mod Posted May 16, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: it would be appreciated that my post be deleted and a PM sent, rather than be humiliated in public, would have been more acceptable We will do that if the post contains something which breaches forum rules and is not suitable for public viewing; however it then wastes time with someone who think they have a 'right' to free speech, argues the toss, sometimes offensively and ends up getting removed. Addressing it in public should* be a learning point for others not to do the same again. *Of course some think it's more important to type than read. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 The debate seems to be price and colour of the loco. Of course those who don't like the colour will find the model very expensive! Those who do like the colour will uhmm and arr over the price before deciding to buy one. While those who love it probably won't think twice. This loco, no interest for me... But City of Wells in full Golden Arrow colours (an open goal that has been waiting almost 2 decades now!) would quickly get my hard earned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I have managed to secure one i think it looks very nice. Although I'm surprised it is just a locomotive and not a special train set like the one which was produced for the Diamond jubilee. Mind you securing one at the moment is alot easier to do than trying to secure the limited edition platinum 70th anniversary jubilee tin of Cadbury Roses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, RyanN91 said: I have managed to secure one i think it looks very nice. Although I'm surprised it is just a locomotive and not a special train set like the one which was produced for the Diamond jubilee. Mind you securing one at the moment is alot easier to do than trying to secure the limited edition platinum 70th anniversary jubilee tin of Cadbury Roses. I don't think there is a special train though. It's not mainline registered so you are limited to what stock the SVR has and apart from the BR Mark Ones Hornby don't make many of them. https://www.svrwiki.com/Carriages Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, JSpencer said: The debate seems to be price and colour of the loco. Of course those who don't like the colour will find the model very expensive! Those who do like the colour will uhmm and arr over the price before deciding to buy one. While those who love it probably won't think twice. This loco, no interest for me... But City of Wells in full Golden Arrow colours (an open goal that has been waiting almost 2 decades now!) would quickly get my hard earned... 34092 was an Arrow favourite but surely in original airsmoothed condition ? Whereas the vision in purple is rebuilt. Hornby did one I think about 20 years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I think Hornby has made a good decision to make a model of 'Elizabeth ll' in purple livery as it has sold well. I assume Hornby has reproduced the colour accurately. Purple is a colour people either love or hate and it does not appear very often in the natural World. You see it in heather and orchids and other plants. I like it as a colour and for a locomotive on its own. My main interest is the Swanage Railway and I would have bought Hornby's model if it had appeared there. Our model railway club has also got a model of part of the Severn Valley Railway but none of our members have bought a model of 'City of Wells' in purple yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Robin Brasher said: My main interest is the Swanage Railway and I would have bought Hornby's model if it had appeared there. I'd say this sums things up perfectly. This is a souvenier loco - if you've seen it and want a miniature version you'll buy it. Or maybe you just want something different then it can join Peco's purple bugbox on the shelf. Nothing wrong with that and it helps Hornby and the SVR. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Hroth said: Purple isn't a lasting colour*, it'll weather down and be repainted back to its customary livery later in the year. Anyhow, they could've covered it with patriotic Jubilee wallpaper instead..... Its been done before! * The BR version didn't last long! Now that's a Limited Edition I might be tempted to buy 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Robin Brasher said: I think Hornby has made a good decision to make a model of 'Elizabeth ll' in purple livery as it has sold well. I assume Hornby has reproduced the colour accurately. Purple is a colour people either love or hate and it does not appear very often in the natural World. You see it in heather and orchids and other plants. I like it as a colour and for a locomotive on its own. My main interest is the Swanage Railway and I would have bought Hornby's model if it had appeared there. Our model railway club has also got a model of part of the Severn Valley Railway but none of our members have bought a model of 'City of Wells' in purple yet. Taw Valley is Purple Lizzie. City Of Wells was still in BR Green the last time I looked. Should be running this week. https://www.eastlancsrailway.org.uk/loco-roster/ Might try and get up to Bury in the next week or two. Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, andyman7 said: Now that's a Limited Edition I might be tempted to buy 😀 And me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: And me! I ….somewhere….have Hornby’s first iteration. No I’m not asking Sotheby’s for a valuation.Not for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Phil Parker said: I'd say this sums things up perfectly. This is a souvenier loco - if you've seen it and want a miniature version you'll buy it. Or maybe you just want something different then it can join Peco's purple bugbox on the shelf. Nothing wrong with that and it helps Hornby and the SVR. Or a slight stretch of the imagination to say it did more than what it would do, i.e. visit other places in that livery. But yes I agree, whilst mine will be a bit of imagination location wise, I'd not be buying it if it was painted green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 12 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: I ….somewhere….have Hornby’s first iteration. No I’m not asking Sotheby’s for a valuation.Not for sale. You mean the excellent "Lord Westwood"? An essential feature in any collection and not at all because it's a little less than accurate paint-wise. 11 hours ago, TomScrut said: Or a slight stretch of the imagination to say it did more than what it would do, i.e. visit other places in that livery. But yes I agree, whilst mine will be a bit of imagination location wise, I'd not be buying it if it was painted green. I bet there are a few preserved lines who'd like to borrow it. I'd love to see the thing on the GCR pulling the Windcutter set! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 The real one is ‘platinum purple’ supplied by Williamsons of Ripon. https://yourharrogate.co.uk/news/ripon-paint-specialists-transform-historic-steam-train-to-mark-queens-jubilee/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: The real one is ‘platinum purple’ supplied by Williamsons of Ripon. https://yourharrogate.co.uk/news/ripon-paint-specialists-transform-historic-steam-train-to-mark-queens-jubilee/ Thank goodness the colour in that link looks a lot better than the pinkish hue which has appeared in many photos. Definitely an engine to phot in carefully selected lighting conditions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted May 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 16/05/2022 at 09:13, Phil Parker said: more then grumpy blokes who stand around taking photos and munching the sandwiches they brought with them. I hadnt realised we'd met! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: Thank goodness the colour in that link looks a lot better than the pinkish hue which has appeared in many photos. Definitely an engine to phot in carefully selected lighting conditions! Maybe a case of over saturation/HDR/level tweaking for some photos? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Phil Parker said: You mean the excellent "Lord Westwood"? An essential feature in any collection and not at all because it's a little less than accurate paint-wise. I bet there are a few preserved lines who'd like to borrow it. I'd love to see the thing on the GCR pulling the Windcutter set! Er….hummmph…not. Sorry. I mean West Country “City Of Wells “34092….and not to the above mentioned Lord W. Defrocked purple Bulleids are one thing….but THAT is entirely another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Phil Parker said: You mean the excellent "Lord Westwood"? An essential feature in any collection and not at all because it's a little less than accurate paint-wise. I bet there are a few preserved lines who'd like to borrow it. I'd love to see the thing on the GCR pulling the Windcutter set! I think the smoke, sound and X04 motor might be worth more as parts than the model as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I think the smoke, sound and X04 motor might be worth more as parts than the model as a whole. It's not got smoke, the X04 motor doesn't work and someone has switched the tender axles around so the sound doesn't work. I'm still chuffed with my buy, and will be fixing the sound and motor! Why anyone needs more noise then a cam on some sandpaper can generate is a mystery to me... 😀 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: I'm still chuffed with my buy, and will be fixing the sound and motor! PM me if you need anything for the motor, or a replacement :) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: It's not got smoke, the X04 motor doesn't work and someone has switched the tender axles around so the sound doesn't work. I'm still chuffed with my buy, and will be fixing the sound and motor! Why anyone needs more noise then a cam on some sandpaper can generate is a mystery to me... 😀 If its just worn brushes or the commutator clogged up with gunk, then the X04 is so easy to fix. If not, then its easy to swap out and fix at leisure while the replacement gives you fun! TBH the lack of smoke is a good thing and I always move the cam along the axle to get rid of the irritating chuff! (It means that any future owner can re-engage it without any problems...) Does the telephone number still work? :-) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Dublo2 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Lacathedrale said: Maybe a case of over saturation/HDR/level tweaking for some photos? Having seen the loco in that colour for myself, bright sunlight makes it look much lighter (and pinker) than it does in overcast conditions (or if you stand on the shady side of the loco). It doesn't need a photographer tweaking saturation to see the effect - in fact it does not need a camera at all as your own eyesight can see the difference when comparing the sunlit side with the shady side. The photo in the Ripon link was clearly taken in overcast conditions, unlike most of the 'bright pink' images we have seen that were taken in bright sunlight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, 5Dublo2 said: The photo in the Ripon link was clearly taken in overcast conditions, unlike most of the 'bright pink' images we have seen that were taken in bright sunlight. Is not the photo in the opening frames of the video one of the advance publicity photo-shops? It has the BR number etc. I've yet to see a photo of the repainted engine where the colour looks anything other than lilac. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I looked at it on the webcam, but couldn't get a proper shot. Judging by the colours of items we know the colour of, it is at the lighter end of the purple spectrum. This image tallies with most photos I've seen and hasn't been altered in anyway. Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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