Moderators AY Mod Posted November 8, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted November 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, Hobby said: A bit OTT for that comment, I'd suggest, mountain out of molehill springs to mind... I'll leave it at that, seems no-one has a sense of humour these days. However half a dozen unconnected persons sent scans of the page/comment over to me yesterday raising eyebrows; it's incorrect to relate it to 'sense of humour', it's a generational thing. 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I know that AY didn't want any wishlistism, but even Triang managed an ordinary DMU in TT3, so it would be nice if Hornby could come up with something slmilar... 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2022 21 hours ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: Just to change the focus of this thread a little ............. I wonder who, when and where will the first exhibition layout appear on the circuit - other than the Hornby official ones of course. And will it be a 21st century style exhibition layout? Or a homage to the old days, like this.................. Wow…I remember that “battery pack” controller 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, AY Mod said: However half a dozen unconnected persons sent scans of the page/comment over to me yesterday raising eyebrows; it's incorrect to relate it to 'sense of humour', it's a generational thing. Sorry Andy, but it's still humour, I could easily have said the same thing quoting exactly the same scenario and I expect many would agree with me. If he'd have said "partner" then I expect no one would have said anything, though, I suppose. To call it sexist, though, is making a mountain out of a molehill, it was said in jest with no intention to offend. Trust social media to blow things out of all proportion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Hobby said: And it's rather said that something said/written in jest is taken so seriously by someone else... Sign of the times, sadly, that one can't say anything these days without someone reading far more into something and taking "offence"... 🙄 Even if said in jest, it’s not something that should have got anywhere near the printed page nowadays regardless of origins. Sad yes. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 8, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted November 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hobby said: Sorry Andy, but it's still humour, Jim Davidson's a comedian; but he's not funny either. 2 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 If only SK had instead used the phrase "and when your gender fluid, non binary life partner provides your equal share of the vegan surprise..." there'd be no such controversy. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HExpressD Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 This is looking like a Daily Mail comments section at the moment, can we go back to toy trains? 1 14 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) The only email I have received since ordering the membership pack arrived early this morning, asking me to rate my purchase , however I have yet to see the membership pack, although I have been away from home for a few days! Edited November 8, 2022 by kernowtim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 8, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bon Accord said: If only SK had instead used the phrase "and when your gender fluid, non binary life partner provides your equal share of the vegan surprise..." there'd be no such controversy. There's no place for comments like that either. 5 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, Hobby said: Sorry Andy, but it's still humour, I could easily have said the same thing quoting exactly the same scenario and I expect many would agree with me. If he'd have said "partner" then I expect no one would have said anything, though, I suppose. I can't actually see what was actually humorous in the statement. Saying "partner" would have made it worse to a certain extent (because that would have been a misplaced attempt at PC) and putting "husband" would have actually been self ironically funny. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted November 8, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2022 How difficult would have been (and to be honest, it seems more natural language to me) to say something like Quote you can even do your modelling at the kitchen table, and when it comes time for tea, you can just tidy it away until later. 4 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just listen to yourselves, blowing an innocent comment out of all proportion. 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, kernowtim said: The only email I have received since ordering the membership pack arrived early this morning, asking me to rate my purchase , however I have yet to see the membership pack, although I have been away from home for a few days! With any luck, now you've commented on it (have a look over the past couple of pages re the email) the Club magazine should arrived! Its been sent direct from the printers, so Hornbys delaying actions shouldn't hold it up... There's an email link to customer services at the bottom of the email, drop 'em a line asking whats happened to your membership pack! 🤪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted November 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2022 Got my membership mag in the post yesterday. No fluffy bits, just the mag, but I suspect I'll get me badge and all the other guff in due time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, boxbrownie said: Wow…I remember that “battery pack” controller 😄 I've a couple of those... I've also got the Lonestar TrebleOLectric version. And the huge battery box that came with the early sets. I got a trainset for a Christmas long ago that contained one, and after it was discovered exactly how long three EverReady 126 batteries lasted driving a loco around an oval of track, a transformer and controller were soon forthcoming! Edited November 8, 2022 by Hroth 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Hobby said: And it's rather said that something said/written in jest is taken so seriously by someone else... Sign of the times, sadly, that one can't say anything these days without someone reading far more into something and taking "offence"... 🙄 3 hours ago, TomE said: Well I’m not going down that rabbit hole, but I have to wonder if using lazy, outdated, casually sexist language to sell model trains to the modern family is a valid marketing strategy in 2023. Tom. Perhaps the idea that it’s ‘in jest’ just doesn’t come across very well in writing, as is often the case. The jump to ‘one can’t say anything these days’ is probably also a bit OTT. Actually, something that I find similarly dated/clichéd (though it isn’t offensive of course) is the ‘you can do your modelling on your kitchen table’. Hasn’t this ‘advantage’ been done several times in the promotion for lots of small-scale/small space model railway stuff in the past? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, andythenorth said: But now we seem to have screwed up, with mentions of wokism etc. Indeed. Perhaps rants of that kind should be restricted to the comments section on certain tabloid newspaper websites, where they belong… 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, PeterStiles said: If we go any further south we'll be modelling SNCF Surely we’re well past that now, and have moved on to the Southern Fuegian Railway? 😅 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Bon Accord said: If only SK had instead used the phrase "and when your gender fluid, non binary life partner provides your equal share of the vegan surprise..." there'd be no such controversy. How could they/it/thing…….after being up an M25 Traffic Sign for the past few days? 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ha_Charade_UR Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I've just had the magazine arrive. Not had a chance to read it yet but I'm sure it will keep me entertained for bit until the rest of the membership pack gets here. As for Mr Kohler's comment, they may not have been the best chosen words but in my limited time back in the realm of model railway discussion I have gained the impression that almost anything he says will be scrutinised, analysed and interpreted in a negative light if at all possible. I'm not quite sure what crime he committed in either this or a past life but it must have been pretty bad! 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I've been told, via email, all of my joining details could take up to two months. Looks like TT120 will be popular if membership demand is anything to go by? I'm in no hurry. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, CME and Bottlewasher said: I've been told, via email, all of my joining details could take up to two months. Looks like TT120 will be popular if membership demand is anything to go by? I'm in no hurry. Its just the joining pack thats affected. You should get the club mag soon, as the printers are sending it out separately You're a member, so you can take advantage of the discounts, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Robin Brasher said: I don't think that there are many advantages in TT:120 over N gauge. Having tried both (and still having some Japanese N 1:150)... the only advantage I see N having over TT is if you want to do massive scenes and wide curves, if you want to model the BC Rockies or the Forth Bridge. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, 009 micro modeller said: Surely we’re well past that now, and have moved on to the Southern Fuegian Railway? 😅 Well I have considered modelling the Camber Railway (Falkland Islands) in 1:120... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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