ardbealach Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 How about "It's not a model - it's an investment!" (Alisdair) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Hroth said: Also useful for the ad-breaks. If there's anything I'll even consider watching on the commercial channels, I record them so I can skip the ads. Its painful trying to remember when you're watching live that you can't skip, and the catch up services disable fast forwarding through ads, so then I'm reduced to muting the sound, though the visuals are still painful. Also up coming editions of love Island...naked atraction and all the other mindless tosh peddled to numb the brain...yep defo agree with you adds get mute treatment it drives Mrs Bradford buffer bonkers.... it drives me bonkers if I made a mistake and allowed Mrs bradfordbuffer the use of the remote...and the mute isn't used....🤨 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, ardbealach said: How about "It's not a model - it's an investment!" (Alisdair) Who can forget "detail, detail, detail"? Probably best if I say no more - after all, I wouldn't want anyone to refer to "all the right details ...". 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Huw Griffiths said: Who can forget "detail, detail, detail"? Probably best if I say no more - after all, I wouldn't want anyone to refer to "all the right details ...". Oh go on... "... but not necessarily in the right order!" 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 Breaking news. a study of 'The Radio Times' (yes, it still existsand we buy iy and y use it) reveals that The Hornby Show is on at the same time as 'the quiz hour' on BBC2. It's more than my job's life's worth to deny SWMBO and daughter (and myself) the erudite pleasure of 'Only Connect' and 'University Challenge'. As we don't havea 5 year old in the house working the video recorder is an even greater challenge than 'Only Connect' I will no doubt be reduced to watching the more than likely repeat of The Hornby Show (later in the week - I shall consult 'The Radio Times' to see what offers. This des of course mean that I will no doubt look rather dumb as the new SK catchphrase ('size doesn't matter'??) gets underway and becomes the talk of the town, and RMweb. Have a good evening folks and think of me shouting at some of the teams on 'University Challenge' if there is another question about railway junctions wjicj tests their brainpower to the utmost and gets me shouting at the telly. 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 Hello Mike I believe there is a 'Yesterday+1' channel (ie runs one hour later). Might help? Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 15 hours ago, adb968008 said: My guess ”This is not just a flash in the pan”. This is not even a flush in the pan...? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Breaking news. a study of 'The Radio Times' (yes, it still existsand we buy iy and y use it) reveals that The Hornby Show is on at the same time as 'the quiz hour' on BBC2. It's more than my job's life's worth to deny SWMBO and daughter (and myself) the erudite pleasure of 'Only Connect' and 'University Challenge'. As we don't havea 5 year old in the house working the video recorder is an even greater challenge than 'Only Connect' I will no doubt be reduced to watching the more than likely repeat of The Hornby Show (later in the week - I shall consult 'The Radio Times' to see what offers. This des of course mean that I will no doubt look rather dumb as the new SK catchphrase ('size doesn't matter'??) gets underway and becomes the talk of the town, and RMweb. Have a good evening folks and think of me shouting at some of the teams on 'University Challenge' if there is another question about railway junctions wjicj tests their brainpower to the utmost and gets me shouting at the telly. You should be able to watch it on your PC, tablet or whatever, see here: Ways to Watch - UKTV Play Only Connect and University Challenge should be available immediately after broadcast on the BBC iPlayer. Edited January 9, 2023 by Pint of Adnams Forget RMWeb is not clever enough to recognise links... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BMacdermott said: Hello Mike I believe there is a 'Yesterday+1' channel (ie runs one hour later). Might help? Brian I've never seen the Yesterday+1 channel actually working! The listing at Freeview 74 currently says "06:00-04:00 Yesterday +1 is back at 5am"... As PoA notes above, UKTV Play is a better option, either on a tablet/computer or using something like a NowTV box/dongle. Edited January 9, 2023 by Hroth Extra! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 Oh...yes! Haven't ever gone into that channel before! Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Breaking news. a study of 'The Radio Times' (yes, it still existsand we buy iy and y use it) reveals that The Hornby Show is on at the same time as 'the quiz hour' on BBC2. It's more than my job's life's worth to deny SWMBO and daughter (and myself) the erudite pleasure of 'Only Connect' and 'University Challenge'. As we don't havea 5 year old in the house working the video recorder is an even greater challenge than 'Only Connect' I will no doubt be reduced to watching the more than likely repeat of The Hornby Show (later in the week - I shall consult 'The Radio Times' to see what offers. This des of course mean that I will no doubt look rather dumb as the new SK catchphrase ('size doesn't matter'??) gets underway and becomes the talk of the town, and RMweb. Have a good evening folks and think of me shouting at some of the teams on 'University Challenge' if there is another question about railway junctions wjicj tests their brainpower to the utmost and gets me shouting at the telly. I quite enjoy UC, especially the alumni series over Christmas, where I found I did quite well against the teams both on starters and supplimentaries. I suppose its more difficult under studio conditions! On the other hand, Only Connect is just weird... Are those sponge bricks still available? They're better for throwing at the telly than shouting and cursing yourself hoarse! In previous years, the Radio Times was always a Christmas indulgence, this year the price was identical to a model railway magazine so I reluctantly replaced it for a far cheaper alternative listings mag. Must say the festive viewing options were rather poor... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Breaking news. a study of 'The Radio Times' (yes, it still existsand we buy iy and y use it) reveals that The Hornby Show is on at the same time as 'the quiz hour' on BBC2. It's more than my job's life's worth to deny SWMBO and daughter (and myself) the erudite pleasure of 'Only Connect' and 'University Challenge'. As we don't havea 5 year old in the house working the video recorder is an even greater challenge than 'Only Connect' I will no doubt be reduced to watching the more than likely repeat of The Hornby Show (later in the week - I shall consult 'The Radio Times' to see what offers. This des of course mean that I will no doubt look rather dumb as the new SK catchphrase ('size doesn't matter'??) gets underway and becomes the talk of the town, and RMweb. Have a good evening folks and think of me shouting at some of the teams on 'University Challenge' if there is another question about railway junctions wjicj tests their brainpower to the utmost and gets me shouting at the telly. It could be worse. At least they are not insisting on watching "H & M" interviews! Even I'm not safe in France as we have a special at 11pm on the biggest TV channel over here. Oh why can't they show "Hornby A model world" instead? Nah, I will go to bed early as I need to be up by 7am to see a special announcement and think about more important things like Mk 3 coaches... an L&M whatever.... a new livery for a N15.... etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) To be fair, models lose less value, or even gain it, compared to most other consumer stuff. Pretty impressive for something stamped from plastic in a Chinese foundry. I wouldn't call them investments as such, but they are better than toys. Edited January 9, 2023 by rogerzilla 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, rogerzilla said: To be fair, models lose less value, or even gain it, compared to most other consumer stuff. Pretty impressive for something stamped from plastic in a Chinese foundry. I wouldn't call them investments as such, but they are better than toys. This is particularly true for anything brought before - say - 2015. There are 3 main factors influencing this. 1/ a popular all new item which is sold out, but is the must have fashion of the moment. This can boost price briefly to a really high value ( - this has always existed). 2/ the removal of flea bays "pay a fee even if not sold". People can now ask for high sums (based on 1) for years well above market value waiting for someone to take the bait 3/ The fact that all new items have increase drastically over the past few years is in turn pulling the price of second hand ones up Secondhand is now not far below "all new" even though the latter has better warranty (although spares may not always be easy to get). Right now, it is more of a second hand sellers market which was the complete opposite prior - say - 2012 when all new items were a 1/3rd of today's prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Hroth said: Must say the festive viewing options were rather poor... These days, they generally seem to be - especially around bank holidays - and as for the "festive turkeys" recently on offer, the less said the better. I reckon I'd prefer wall-to-wall repeats of Morecambe and Wise. Meanwhile, returning to the Hornby Show ... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Huw Griffiths said: I reckon I'd prefer wall-to-wall repeats of Morecambe and Wise. Meanwhile, returning to the Hornby Show ... . Reminds me of another M&W Christmas special, with cameos provided by previous guests, including Andre Previn standing at the back of a double decker, "I appeared on the Morecambe and Wise Show. Look what happened to me...." 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 At some point this evening I think we'll close this topic off and create a fresh one for the first episode airing. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) At last! I'll be the originator of a shut-down topic!!! Anyhow, before the close-down, Hornby have just issued a new email ------ Series 2 of Hornby: A Model World is here! It’s Monday, which means the first episode of Hornby: A Model World is almost here! Hornby Development and Marketing Director Simon Kohler has had a radical idea, using the iconic locomotive Flying Scotsman as the spearhead of a brand new range, two thirds the size of the ubiquitous Double-O. This Table Top (TT) scale hasn’t been produced in the UK for over 50 years and even for seasoned designers, poses significant engineering challenges. Everything must be scaled down 120 times from real life, rendering some features almost invisible to the naked eye, or too small to even mould. There’s also a huge task on minuscule proportions for repairs “Magician” Jon as he performs the fiddliest of fixes on two tiny Rocket locomotive models. Plus enthusiast Kathy Millatt is shrinking a Welsh slate mine down to create a new micro layout, contending with buildings that are too big, locos that don’t work and the bane of her life, a hot glue gun. Set your alarms in preparation for episode one tonight at 8pm on Yesterday Channel and catch-up on UKTV Play here! ------ Fill yer boots..... Edited January 9, 2023 by Hroth 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, AY Mod said: At some point this evening I think we'll close this topic off and create a fresh one for the first episode airing. Sounds like a good call. When even I am referring to Morecambe and Wise stuff from 40 or 50 years back (and saying how much I liked M&W / that their repeats are more watchable than a lot of the "festive" viewing), this thread has probably just about run its course. As for the Hornby Show, I suspect that some of us might be watching just so we can see what "cheap to make gimmicks" they're thinking of loading into basically RailRoad models in the hope of "jacking up" the price. I've never been a gambler - if I were, I would have guessed at piezoelectric nebuliser elements (essentially a PXE disk - driven by an oscillator - and resting on a damp sponge) under the chimneys of "kettles" - real water vapour - and "only" an extra hundred quid ... ! I think I'll stick with the base models, thank you - I don't want to pay extra for gimmicks I don't want. Anyway, as a DEMU member, I'm rather more interested in "Diesel & electric" - you don't tend to get much steam from postwar multiple units ... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 The A1 locomotive in the TT range isn't Flying Scotsman, whatever fevered dreams SK might have had. Wasn't Hornby only licensed to use its name and image in OO, or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, rogerzilla said: The A1 locomotive in the TT range isn't Flying Scotsman, whatever fevered dreams SK might have had. Wasn't Hornby only licensed to use its name and image in OO, or something? What's this then? https://uk.hornby.com/products/lner-class-a1-4-6-2-4472-flying-scotsman-era-3-tt3004m It will be because a licence fee would have been due to the rights holders based on the full value of the set and if you're trying to keep the price down then it makes sense to substitute it with similar. That's why it's The Scotsman set and not The Flying Scotsman. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 Keep an eye open for "The most crestfallen modeller ever" after words from his wife. I'm still chuckling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Hroth said: In previous years, the Radio Times was always a Christmas indulgence, this year the price was identical to a model railway magazine so I reluctantly replaced it for a far cheaper alternative listings mag. Must say the festive viewing options were rather poor... I spent the Christmas period with my sister - they always had Radio Times all year, and my BiL always seemed to spend half his time with his nose in it and setting the recorder etc - and he's not exactly great company regarding conversation - same as his brother and their dad... This year, I bought a Daily Wail on Christmas Eve as it has a good TV supplement for the week ahead (I was going home on the Tuesday, so wanted it at home, to use it to catch up on what I missed over Christmas). I could hardly not notice the obvious absence of their Radio Times, either pride of place on the coffee table, or my BiL with his nose in it. Unfortunately, my BiL found my TV supplement and then spent half his time with his nose in it and setting the recorder etc... I made sure I didn't forget to bring it home with me... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Breaking news. a study of 'The Radio Times' (yes, it still existsand we buy iy and y use it) reveals that The Hornby Show is on at the same time as 'the quiz hour' on BBC2. It's more than my job's life's worth to deny SWMBO and daughter (and myself) the erudite pleasure of 'Only Connect' and 'University Challenge'. As we don't havea 5 year old in the house working the video recorder is an even greater challenge than 'Only Connect' I will no doubt be reduced to watching the more than likely repeat of The Hornby Show (later in the week - I shall consult 'The Radio Times' to see what offers. This des of course mean that I will no doubt look rather dumb as the new SK catchphrase ('size doesn't matter'??) gets underway and becomes the talk of the town, and RMweb. Have a good evening folks and think of me shouting at some of the teams on 'University Challenge' if there is another question about railway junctions wjicj tests their brainpower to the utmost and gets me shouting at the telly. VCM vs SK? Absolutely no contest! 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: VCM vs SK? Absolutely no contest! I'd imagine old Si would even loose out in a contest of knowing what was important to the market he purports to serve! Imagine discovering that VCM was a secret modeller! Mind, having seen her performance on Taskmaster, I don't think the practical aspects would be quite up her street! I'll have a watch, it's more interesting for the other aspects of the company to be honest, the Airfix segments last series were particularly good. Cheers J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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