Four way Junction layout

[Baldwin30762]

Hi Guys I am trying to get some inspiration for a country four route junction station                              A                         B

 

                                                                                                                                                                                           STATION

 

                                                                                                                                                                                   C                         D

 

Trains go from A to B or A to D, Trains also go from C to B and C to D they can also go in reverse as well B to A or B to C and D to A and D to C.

 

The concept is that the main line runs from A to D and there are two branch line both run by different companies so in total there would be three different Railway companies serving the station.

 

So the question is can anyone suggest a prototype junction station in the middle of no where to be honest?

 

Regards

 

Colin Rainsbury

 

 

[MyRule1]

Ely is a two (Cambridge,  Bury St Edmunds) to three (March, Kings Lynn, Norwich) way junction.

[Wickham Green too]

Trouble is, places like that didn't stay in the middle of nowhere once the railway landed - look at Tonbridge, it was just the junction for Tunbridge Wells an Hastings originally .... though it had grown a bit by the time the Sevenoaks Cut-off arrived.

[Michael Hodgson]

Crewe was a Junction in the middle of nowhere when they built it.  Swindon still is.

 

If it's got to be a 4-way junction, how about Melton Constable, heart of the M&GNJR?

 

Or how about Bristol Parkway, with the NE/SW lines cnnecting with the S Wales Main Line, but nowhere near the centre of Bristle?

 

Tamworth has four directions - albeit at different levels, originally considered a High Level station above Low Level.

[Michael Hodgson]

Or if you need a junction still in the middle of nowhere, Dovey Junction is miles from anywhere athough its just two into one.

[scottystitch]

Trent ?

 

It really was in the middle of nowhere...

 

Best

 

Scott.

Edited December 22, 2022 by scottystitch

[Colinh58]

Verney Junction, ex LNW/Met was certainly in the middle of nowhere.

[Sasquatch]

Lewes on LBSC. These days it's much simplified. Trains to and from Haywards Heath (London to Brighton Main Line) and Brighton with trains From and to Eastbourne/Hastings,  Newhaven/ Seaford branch and East Grinstead (what is now the Bluebelle line).  Quite a busy station.

An interesting station layout with the station forming a triangle to the West of the junctions as opposed to between them! There was also once a good loop that passed under the east Grinstead line which served a reasonable sized goods yard on the River Ouse.

I used the station many times and on occasion would take the Eastbourne train down from Victoria and change for Brighton.

Worth looking at even if the plan is a bit too ambitious. Lewes is an interesting station, one of my favorites.  

 

Edited December 21, 2022 by Sasquatch

[phil_sutters]

37 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

Lewes on LBSC. These days it's much simplified. Trains to and from Haywards Heath (London to Brighton Main Line) and Brighton with trains From and to Eastbourne/Hastings,  Newhaven/ Seaford branch and East Grinstead (what is now the Bluebelle line).  Quite a busy station.

An interesting station layout with the station forming a triangle to the West of the junctions as opposed to between them! There was also once a good loop that passed under the east Grinstead line which served a reasonable sized goods yard on the River Ouse.

I used the station many times and on occasion would take the Eastbourne train down from Victoria and change for Brighton.

Worth looking at even if the plan is a bit too ambitious. Lewes is an interesting station, one of my favorites.  

 

If you need to see the design on the ground, this album will give you a fair idea of its current appearance - 

 

[The Johnster]

Well, you all know what I'm going to say, so I'll say it; Tondu.  4 routes at the main junction, a triangle, and two more junctions (Brynmenyn and Bryncethin) within sight. It's actually the hub for 6 routes, though one (Hendreforgan/Gilfach Goch) was closed in 1930.  3 out of the main 4 are still used, as part of the Bridgend-Maesteg line and the diversionary Ogmore Vale Extension route to Margam.

 

7 routes really; Bridgend, Porthcawl, OVE, Llynfi Valley/Abergwynfi, Blaengarw, Nantymoel, and Gilfach Goch.  Tondu isn't quite the middle of nowhere, but it only barely qualifies as 'somewhere'  in non-railway terms.

 

Caerphilly was a 4-way, with the main Cardiff-Rhymni line, the 'Watford' line which connected to Penrhos, and the Brecon & Merthyr branch from Machen.  At Penrhos, only a mile to the west, there was a further 3-way accessing the Taff Vale at Walnut Tree Jc down the Penrhos incline, the Barry's Llanbradach branch that crossed the Walnut Tree Viaduct, and the Pontypridd, Caerphilly, and Newport line up the easterns side of the Taff Valley to access Pontypridd by a viaduct over the river directly to the south of Pontypridd Station.  As the Rhondda and Taff lines of the TVR split directly to the north of this station, Pontypridd was a 4-way as well.  Caerphilly and Ponty are definitely 'somewheres', though.

 

 

[Brian Indge]

If you could find a 1950’s track layout before it was remodelled for O/H electrification, Barking LTSR station was a very interesting 4-way junction with the added bonus of the District Line underground route as well.

[Phil Bullock]

Would Bewdley fit the bill? Although not in the middle of nowhere it is quite geographically contained….

 

Effectively built as two routes …. 
 

Bewdley station history

[phil_sutters]

6 hours ago, Brian Indge said:

If you could find a 1950’s track layout before it was remodelled for O/H electrification, Barking LTSR station was a very interesting 4-way junction with the added bonus of the District Line underground route as well.

One of the best resources for London railway maps, that I have been shown recently is, The Underground Map. It has dated layers, so you can see Barking in 1950 for example. https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=37&zoom=16&annum=1950

[Kris]

The base layout shown describes Westbury.

[The Lurker]

Paddock Wood - dead straight main line, two branches, to Maidstone West/Strood and to Hawkhurst.

[Wickham Green too]

I'd discounted Paddock Wood as A can go to B, C or D - and B, C or D can go to A - but B can't go to C or D, C can't go to B or D and D can't go to B or C ........ er .. without reversal  ! 😕

[KeithMacdonald]

How about Newbury? With three lines:

• GWR/BR(W)
• Didcot Newbury & Southampton line
• Lambourne branch

 

[Michael Hodgson]

Not the middle of nowhere. 

If you're one of the horsey set, it's the capital of the country!

[The Stationmaster]

5 hours ago, Kris said:

The base layout shown describes Westbury.

Not exactly the middle of nowhere but definitely, and obviously, a one horse town.   (I know - I worked there for the better part of 4 years.)

[Kris]

35 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

Not exactly the middle of nowhere but definitely, and obviously, a one horse town.   (I know - I worked there for the better part of 4 years.)

Did the residents pinch the horse from Bratton? 😋

[The Lurker]

4 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

I'd discounted Paddock Wood as A can go to B, C or D - and B, C or D can go to A - but B can't go to C or D, C can't go to B or D and D can't go to B or C ........ er .. without reversal  ! 😕

I believe down passenger trains also had to reverse (twice) to access the Hawkhurst line as well, but you''re right, it probably does not quite fit because both branches join in the same direction.

[Wickham Green too]

2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

... If you're one of the horsey set, it's the capital of the country!

I thought that was Newmarket ! ....... speaking if which, how about Fordham - just to the north - which had the requisite ABCD until 1962.

[Brian Indge]

7 hours ago, phil_sutters said:

One of the best resources for London railway maps, that I have been shown recently is, The Underground Map. It has dated layers, so you can see Barking in 1950 for example. https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=37&zoom=16&annum=1950

Unfortunately the 1950 map shows the layout at Barking after the massive remodelling that took place around the mid-50’s prior to electrification of the LTSR route. Before that time there was a very complex junction at the Southend/Tilbury side of the station whereby trains from Forest Gate had to cross both the Underground lines and Southend lines to access the route to Tilbury. There was also a very large signal box at this position.

[nigb55009]

Have you tried Melton Constable? Admittedly it was all run by the Midland & Great Northern Joint Railway, but the track plan

may be suitable and with a little modellers licence, it could be different companies. There were also plenty of rail connected

facilities, including goods yard, engine shed and works. And, if you look on a map it`s definitely in the middle of nowhere.

Edited December 22, 2022 by nigb55009

[Wickham Green too]

... but centre of the M.&.G.N. universe.