Michael Hodgson Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Hroth said: It's GE section favouritism all over again! You mark my words, next year Hornby will produce an E4! Yes please. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Helmdon said: The B16 is still dangling and ready for the first manufacturer brave* enough to do it... *no bravery needed IMO Your right. However as Hornby is looking to capitalise on the interest in the streamlined LNER it is a cheaper option as all the information is held as they re tooled the B17 not that long ago (knowing me that will be 6 years or so). They already have the information for the loco chassis and the information on the tender chassis is held in the GS version. The B16 as much as I would like one I think it will be another manufacturer that takes it on. My thoughts were we were going to see a all singing version of the D49 with a couple of different tenders in either of the 2 main forms of Shire or Hunt. I suspect this may come around in the next few years! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Maybe they could now turn to the GWR streamliners?😆 Note to Hornby - please don't, I can't help wondering whether their CME was trying to respond to comments that GWR engines all look the same, or if he had just been smoking certain substances. Or was it an April fool joke by the works foreman at Swindon? A Thomas face would have been just as convincing. Edited January 10, 2023 by Michael Hodgson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncf231e Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Next year the Atlantic version of the A4? Regards Fred 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I can't help wondering whether their CME was trying to respond to comments that GWR engines all look the same, or if he had just been smoking certain substances. Or was it an April fool joke by the works foreman at Swindon? A Thomas face would have been just as convincing. AIUI Collett hated the idea and only did it under pressure from the directors. Edit: I wonder if Hawksworth drew the splasher? Edited January 10, 2023 by rogerzilla 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpplumy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 hours ago, rovex said: So perhaps we should abandon the idea that a loco with a large number of members of the class, a wide geographic range, a wide variety of liveries and long lived, make good models for mass production. Number in the class - 2 Area of operation - London to East Anglia Length of service in this form - 1951 when both were converted to B17/6 and the stream lining removed. So the smaller the number built, the smaller the area of operation and the shorter the length of service is what is going to determine the models Hornby will make! 1937-1951 wasnt a bad length of service really in streamlined condition, and will have carried standard, wartime and BR liveries, so thats at least 6 they can produce 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I can't help wondering whether their CME was trying to respond to comments that GWR engines all look the same, or if he had just been smoking certain substances. Or was it an April fool joke by the works foreman at Swindon? A Thomas face would have been just as convincing. Sponsored by Ann Summers? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, sncf231e said: Next year the Atlantic version of the A4? Regards Fred Thats just wrong! Freaked me out the same way as that 2 legged Fox that was doing the rounds of social media last week!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpplumy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Thats just wrong! Freaked me out the same way as that 2 legged Fox that was doing the rounds of social media last week!! what we really want 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, sncf231e said: Next year the Atlantic version of the A4? Regards Fred that just looks lethal - like it'll get to 50MPH and everything'll get tangled and it'll start throwing its connecting rods up into the underside of the boiler.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, DougN said: Your right. However as Hornby is looking to capitalise on the interest in the streamlined LNER it is a cheaper option as all the information is held as they re tooled the B17 not that long ago (knowing me that will be 6 years or so). They already have the information for the loco chassis and the information on the tender chassis is held in the GS version. The B16 as much as I would like one I think it will be another manufacturer that takes it on. My thoughts were we were going to see a all singing version of the D49 with a couple of different tenders in either of the 2 main forms of Shire or Hunt. I suspect this may come around in the next few years! Don't disagree, and I've got a decent kit built one anyway, but it seems like such an open goal. Loads of variants, wide geographic usage, long lived etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Helmdon said: that just looks lethal - like it'll get to 50MPH and everything'll get tangled and it'll start throwing its connecting rods up into the underside of the boiler.... The Milwaukee Road ones worked OK - and achieved some fairly high speeds as well..................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bucoops said: Sponsored by Ann Summers? We'll have hold our breath😝 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said: I can't help wondering whether their CME was trying to respond to comments that GWR engines all look the same, or if he had just been smoking certain substances. Or was it an April fool joke by the works foreman at Swindon? A Thomas face would have been just as convincing. the legend is (and I’m not sure if it is apocryphal) that the styling was done by smearing plasticine on a novelty paperweight in the shape of the King, and that was handed over to the works to produce it. if so, it kind of makes me want one more 😄 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFivesMatter Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 “Honey I shrunk the Mallard” or “ you’re trains are so dirty, I thought I’d clean it. Put it in the tumble drier and look what happened!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncf231e Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, gpplumy said: what we really want You asked for it: Regards Fred 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Eaton Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 As per usual I am a bit confused! Is the BR release to be BR green or BR numbered in Apple green ? or has black been mentioned. thanks Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Peter Eaton said: As per usual I am a bit confused! Is the BR release to be BR green or BR numbered in Apple green ? or has black been mentioned. thanks Peter there’s no detail as of yet that allows that to be decided for sure :) Suspect that the BR version is BR apple green with BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tender, but that’s not been definitively confirmed yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, sncf231e said: You asked for it: Regards Fred That does look the business! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bucoops said: Sponsored by Ann Summers? Can I have the tartan one please? Sorry madam, that's my Thermos. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, tomparryharry said: That does look the business! Make it a 4-10-4 and you can have my pre-order. Radius 6 curves only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 My local retailer has told me "R30137 is the LNER one on the order form", so it looks like we're getting LNER 2870 and BR Green 61659. Hope this helps! - James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Bucoops said: The East Anglian stock was the standard 61'6" 😉 Although having invested heavily in 52'6" kits it's only a matter of time! It may have been to the standard length but the 6-car set was specially built for the East Anglian service, with the interiors in a very similar style to the Coronation and West Riding streamlined sets, and all open seating. The re-released teak Gresleys will not cut the mustard... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Johann Marsbar said: The Milwaukee Road ones worked OK - and achieved some fairly high speeds as well..................... True, but they have the length/spacing to not look like they're going to trip over their own wheels! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 hours ago, E100 said: I'm quite surprised by the reasonable price by 2023 standards when the 8F is £250! A very nice addition but not for me. I'm thinking it might be part of a masterplan. Remember Hornby introduced a new tooled B17 in the Railroad range a few years back. Maybe they were already thinking ahead to a B17/5 then and having the chassis , it could be relatively low cost. I didnt predict it , but when you think of it its typical Hornby territory . Big shiny engine , although they are usually Pacifics . You have to think they are scraping the bottom of the barrel now for subjects in OO and can perhaps see why they see more opportunities in TT120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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