RobinofLoxley Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Wagons = 0 coaches = 90. Likely outlier. I wondered about the balance of purchasing between new/used and models/ components/consumables Edited January 24, 2023 by RobinofLoxley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 24, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Geep7 said: i'm most interested to see how many model or have an interest in European railway modelling. 9.2% of respondents so far. 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 24, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Has there been any previous survey with which the results of the present one can be compared? I do have some data from 2014 when I did a survey; or extracts from it that I can look if there's any useful comparisons although the questions are different. This was an interesting table mapping age against scales modelled at that time. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, AY Mod said: This was an interesting table mapping age against scales modelled at that time. Comparison of that alone will be interesting. Will that 50s/60s bulge have moved on to become a 60s/70s bulge or will this survey show (as I suspect) that there's a steady influx of people newly in their 50s, with children past the age of being totally exhausting, taking up or returning to the hobby? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave55uk Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I've just done the survey and have found (because I had to add up my stock) that I have far too much rolling stock. Over 500 wagons alone! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Even before the survey's done, seems there's interesting stuff emerging in the conversation - I'm not suggesting it will be representative of the overall survey picture of course. Hope it's OK to share some thoughts: 51 minutes ago, AY Mod said: 9.2% of respondents so far. A healthy percentage (yes, I am biased). I wonder if connecting with others with similar interests, through Forums like RMweb, may be a bigger part of the hobby for modellers of overseas railways (from a UK perspective). In my case, without lots of practical experience, the advice and encouragement I've had through RMweb made the difference between admiring European (and North American) modelling and actually trying it. 46 minutes ago, AY Mod said: I do have some data from 2014 when I did a survey; or extracts from it that I can look if there's any useful comparisons although the questions are different. This was an interesting table mapping age against scales modelled at that time. Seems that N-Gauge modellers were around 20% of those modelling 4mm-OO, higher than I believe the overall UK average is understood to be (estimated as 10% of the total). That doesn't surprise me - I'd expect a 'silent majority' of OO gauge modellers happily enjoying the hobby without belonging to or reading Forums like RMweb. Perhaps another variation on my comment about modellers of European railways above? Oh, and before I get too serious... 57 minutes ago, AY Mod said: For anyone grumbling that there wasn't an option for their specific interest e.g. Mongolian pre-1920 Narrow Gauge or whatever don't worry about it I think that's a trick question - I don't think there were any railways in Mongolia until the 1930s, although I believe the first one was then narrow gauge. The trans-Mongolian railway is, I believe, post-war, Keith. Edited January 24, 2023 by Keith Addenbrooke 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, dave55uk said: I've just done the survey and have found (because I had to add up my stock) that I have far too much rolling stock. Over 500 wagons alone! Which would need bout 150ft of track. You must have a big layout. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Which would need bout 150ft of track. You must have a big layout. Just to keep things in proportion, if all the Midland Railway's wagon stock was lined up on the main line, it would have stretched from St Pancras to Carlisle and back again as far as Sheffield. 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, AY Mod said: For anyone grumbling that there wasn't an option for their specific interest Firstly, guilty as charged. Secondly and more constructively, when next you run this, maybe a few more 'Other' options to reduce the posts from Mongolophiles and other whingers? Or even 'Other - European' plus 'Other - American', and 'Other - Asian' if it seems that subdividing will be informative. And, perhaps, non-UK outline instead of 'Other' in places. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 A survey like this wants to get responses in the broadest categories, to reveal the large-scale trends and also, importantly, to reduce the amount of analysis to be done. I don't think the number of responses would be sufficient for any statistically-significant conclusion to be drawn as to whether modelling of Mongolian railways was on the up or down. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 I have had to Google Mongolian Railways now... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I believe I recall seeing a documentary showing carriages being bodily moved (by crane) from one set of wheels to another at the change of gauge (Russian to Chinese) at the Mongolian border. Model that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 hours ago, AY Mod said: Yes, the results for that so far are 'interesting'! I should have given an option for 'more than you could possibly ever need'. Or a “my wife’s watching” answer to click. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 Does the hobby change over the years? Most certainly so! At least, I think so.... The age demographic will always change, as older people pass on. Manufacturers need new markets; witness the re-emergence of TT, and the continued popularity of narrow gauge-based scales. I think that some manufacturers have made their last steam models of the earlier eras, simply because newer modellers can have difficulty relating to those periods. I can foresee a time when an implanted chip will run the model railway, with the ability to change operating functions by thought waves alone. Late News! My implanted chip has just instructed me to go out & purchase 20x 16-ton mineral wagons. The download didn't specify a scale.... A hundred years hence... Archaeologists find a locked door in the ruins of Westwood. Unlocking the door, they find a skeleton seated at a desk, with a model of Flying Scotsman clutched tightly in its bony hands. A looped tape continues to play... "My Precious! My Precious! Keep away! It's mine! It's mine!" 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jesse Sim said: Or a “my wife’s watching” answer to click. I've always wondered if it was an old chestnut or whether there really are some of you who have to hide the truth from the Mrs? It's never been an issue in my house, but then my other half is a bit mad anyway. And long may she remain so, it keeps things interesting. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Filled it in, however under the question asking which area I model it would not let me select Scotland, the box simply wouldn't tick, I had to select the unspecified area box to get past that question Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 24, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said: however under the question asking which area I model it would not let me select Scotland, the box simply wouldn't tick, It must be working as there's around 100 so far for that. Or is that Forfar? 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 Forfar - five. East Fife - four Apparently that’s never happened. But it’s Burns night tomorrow so anything could happen. Anyone modelling Rogart Halt in Z? 😅 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium The White Rabbit Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, MrWolf said: I've always wondered if it was an old chestnut or whether there really are some of you who have to hide the truth from the Mrs? .... A bit of both I reckon. It's not an issue for me personally either but in the days when I was trading I saw plenty of examples of blokes hiding purchases and/or downplaying prices. Some regulars asked for goods to go in supermarket carriers or (for example) Smiffs bags. One chap brought a couple of box files to put purchases in - sorry darling, bringing work home again... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gwiwer said: Forfar - five. East Fife - four Apparently that’s never happened. But it’s Burns night tomorrow so anything could happen. Anyone modelling Rogart Halt in Z? 😅 O. T. But it has happened once. On penalties... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496 Edited January 24, 2023 by Claude_Dreyfus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just completed as accurately as I can. My only suggestion would be to add 'other' to the manufacturer list. No survey of this kind can be exhaustive, but for those of us interested in overseas railways that option would capture the numbers buying stuff other than the UK outline producers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, AY Mod said: I do have some data from 2014 when I did a survey; or extracts from it that I can look if there's any useful comparisons although the questions are different. This was an interesting table mapping age against scales modelled at that time. One of the outcomes of interest will be if the peak in the age graph has shifted either towards the younger or older end. Two issues, has it done so by age as a total and also by age per scale. That would assist Show Managers in assessing what is currently “on trend” for scales. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The survey makes it seem like I don't buy anything, which might win me wife brownie points, but isn't really true. Not sure why its got some tiny manufacturers, but not the biggest ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 24, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Talltim said: Not sure why its got some tiny manufacturers, but not the biggest ones Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, AY Mod said: Such as? Roco, Athearn, Marklin, Kato, Walthers for example. I don't know figures, but I would guess that they are all at least as big in sales as Hornby. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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