Peterborough North

[great northern]

Time for Silver Link to head off to New England for a rest.

 

 

[great northern]

While we have been concentrating on the Pacifics, things have been happening at Platform 6, where the stock for the 1237 to Cambridge has beenbrought in, and the loco has backed on. Today Cambridge shed has given us a D16 to admire.

 

 

[great northern]

Another horrid wet and windy day here, and it seems to be the same just about everywhere, though maybe not for our upside down friends. I put the waterproofs on and went for a three mile walk earlier, but I won't be going out again. So, some more pictures, hopefully to brighten a dismal day.

 

In addition to the lovely V2s Tim brought three weeks ago, there were other goodies, but no opportunity really to feature them yet. My Queen of Scots rake has only ever had eight cars, but it should have ten. The eight were built for me by dear Mike Radford some twenty five years ago, and are very nice too, but they are fitted with kadees, which frankly are beginning to become a bit of a nuisance. Tim has been suggesting to me for some time that he'd like to have a really good go at getting a fully matching and weathered set of cars for the train, and in the end I succumbed, so he spent December sourcing 1928 all steel cars on E Bay. They can go for silly money, but we did quite well in the end. I decided on a split of eight 1928 cars to two 1925, and between us we did a lot of research. Tim brought seven with him last time, and took away the other three, which had come here, as part of a Hornby limited edition pre war QOS set. They should be back soon, and I shall have the full rake at last.

 

The Down train came up on the sequence a few days ago, and I ran and photographed it with the seven cars. No doubt it will be about three weeks before they come to the top of the pile, so I've decided to show them now. The rake is of course not complete, and not quite in the right order, but that will soon be corrected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Car 58 was still matchboard finished in 1958, and is a cut and shut job. I will leave Tim to describe, if he so wishes, how he did that, and indeed the other cars in this lovely matching set.

[30368]

On 19/02/2022 at 10:48, great northern said:

Ah, but there would be shops selling clothes for me in the City Centre, wouldn't there? Snow wouldn't be so deep either, though that is relative, of course.

 

You are all, you know, quite wonderfully mad!

 

Keep up the good work!

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[Mallard60022]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

Another horrid wet and windy day here, and it seems to be the same just about everywhere, though maybe not for our upside down friends. I put the waterproofs on and went for a three mile walk earlier, but I won't be going out again. So, some more pictures, hopefully to brighten a dismal day.

 

In addition to the lovely V2s Tim brought three weeks ago, there were other goodies, but no opportunity really to feature them yet. My Queen of Scots rake has only ever had eight cars, but it should have ten. The eight were built for me by dear Mike Radford some twenty five years ago, and are very nice too, but they are fitted with kadees, which frankly are beginning to become a bit of a nuisance. Tim has been suggesting to me for some time that he'd like to have a really good go at getting a fully matching and weathered set of cars for the train, and in the end I succumbed, so he spent December sourcing 1928 all steel cars on E Bay. They can go for silly money, but we did quite well in the end. I decided on a split of eight 1928 cars to two 1925, and between us we did a lot of research. Tim brought seven with him last time, and took away the other three, which had come here, as part of a Hornby limited edition pre war QOS set. They should be back soon, and I shall have the full rake at last.

 

The Down train came up on the sequence a few days ago, and I ran and photographed it with the seven cars. No doubt it will be about three weeks before they come to the top of the pile, so I've decided to show them now. The rake is of course not complete, and not quite in the right order, but that will soon be corrected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Car 58 was still matchboard finished in 1958, and is a cut and shut job. I will leave Tim to describe, if he so wishes, how he did that, and indeed the other cars in this lovely matching set.

Looking forward to seeing them G.

P

[great northern]

1237 it is, the whistle is blown, and our Claud starts off on its way home.

 

 

[great northern]

Lots of named expresses to be seen at the moment, and A4s in charge of every one. 60003 runs through with the Tees Tyne Pullman, and a slightly off centre nameboard, a result no doubt of high cross winds on the descent of Stoke Bank.

 

 

[30368]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

Lots of named expresses to be seen at the moment, and A4s in charge of every one.

 

I am sure that many have said the same. This thread is simply a delight and, despite the rather unpleasant weather (also seemingly affecting the T-T Pullman), brightens up every day. Thanks very much.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[davidw]

Have you shown us all the new reworked v2s yet? 

[great northern]

2 minutes ago, davidw said:

Have you shown us all the new reworked v2s yet? 

All that have so far returned from being Timmed, David. There may, or may not, be more.

[davidw]

9 minutes ago, great northern said:

All that have so far returned from being Timmed, David. There may, or may not, be more.

I  thought I'd be resorting to 3d print bodies  and comet chassis until I saw what he did with them.

Edited February 21, 2022 by davidw

[New Haven Neil]

Those big jobs are all well and good, but that Claude....oh yesss!

[great northern]

Tonight we see 60003 advancing slowly but steadily towards the photographer, who is, in fact, safely positioned on Platform 3.

 

 

[great northern]

The Pullman has moved on, allowing the 9.47 from Doncaster via Lincoln and Boston to complete its journey.

 

 

[great northern]

Champion Lodge now at the end of its work. Another engine I remember well as one of the first I saw, so it has to feature, even though it was withdrawn in July 58. It does seem increasingly though that the criteria for inclusion have changed somewhat, and that anything which was around during the summer of 58 timetable period is permissible. Plus of course anything else which I can't resist.

 

 

[rowanj]

55 minutes ago, great northern said:

 

 It does seem increasingly though that the criteria for inclusion have changed somewhat, and that anything which was around during the summer of 58 timetable period is permissible. Plus of course anything else which I can't resist.

 

 

 

That's an entirely sensible and pragmatic approach, Gilbert. However you really should grit your teeth and bite the bullet when it comes to 113.

[great northern]

9 hours ago, rowanj said:

That's an entirely sensible and pragmatic approach, Gilbert. However you really should grit your teeth and bite the bullet when it comes to 113.

There may, or may not, be a list somewhere, but I cannot divulge any information which might be on it, or not, should that be the case. Without Prejudice.

[Oldddudders]

4 minutes ago, great northern said:

There may, or may not, be a list somewhere, but I cannot divulge any information which might be on it, or not, should that be the case. Without Prejudice.

Once a lawyer......

[great northern]

Time for another Ivatt. It has come from Kings Lynn, stopping at twelve stations, and taking 93 minutes to do 34 miles. Who knows, there may even have been a passenger waiting to board at some of those stations. Did the crew ever have a small wager, I wonder? A shilling say, on whether there was someone on the platform at Clenchwarton, Walpole, or Tydd? Apart from staff, of course, who would be present at every stop.

 

 

[jazzer]

13 hours ago, great northern said:

 It does seem increasingly though that the criteria for inclusion have changed somewhat, and that anything which was around during the summer of 58 timetable period is permissible. Plus of course anything else which I can't resist.

 

 

A matter of time perhaps then, before we see a 9F pressed into passenger service on a summer Saturday , or a Britannia being secretly tested on a KX- Cleethorpes before they became regular ? Not that I would ever wish to see the end if the B1’s of course !

[great northern]

26 minutes ago, jazzer said:

A matter of time perhaps then, before we see a 9F pressed into passenger service on a summer Saturday , or a Britannia being secretly tested on a KX- Cleethorpes before they became regular ? Not that I would ever wish to see the end if the B1’s of course !

Well yes, as to the 9F that is perfectly permissible, and arguably essential, once I start the Saturday sequence. There is even the information to tell me which locos were involved. The Britannia is a different matter though. I did have one, and used it on the Cleethorpes trains, but I sold it as I knew it was an anomaly, and one which irritated me.

 

This could all be said to be a bit silly, because just as I have evidence about the 9Fs, so too do I have evidence of Brits working on the ECML in August 58. However, these were rarities at that time, and I just feel that if I indulge myself with too many rarities, even though I can prove they did happen, I risk losing what I try to show, which is the normal traffic to be seen at the time on a given day.

[Oldddudders]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

However, these were rarities at that time, and I just feel that if I indulge myself with too many rarities, even though I can prove they did happen, I risk losing what I try to show, which is the normal traffic to be seen at the time on a given day.

And that is a fine principle. Far too many layouts have a loco roster based upon the 'Half Noah' principle, with one of everything and  few oddities thrown in. You clearly have a more realistic approach, with the everyday mundane on all sides. That was and is the real railway, the real world. 

[davidw]

Hi Gilbert, Your comment on Britannia's intrigued me. I've a pair 70008 and 70041. Were they in service  on the services you describe by 1960? I thought they were. If not they'll be ebayed to make room for V2s

[great northern]

18 minutes ago, davidw said:

Hi Gilbert, Your comment on Britannia's intrigued me. I've a pair 70008 and 70041. Were they in service  on the services you describe by 1960? I thought they were. If not they'll be ebayed to make room for V2s

Regular workings didn't happen until 1961, which is when Immingham got its allocation on transfer from the GE. Trains Illustrated October 1958 however tells us that on 28th August 70041 worked into KX with the Up Car Sleeper, and that two days later it was seen at Darlington on the 1008 Saturday KX- Glasgow. That's the point I was making above, I could run 70041, or 70003/37, all of which are recorded on the ECML that month. However, those were fleeting visits, and they probably hadn't been on the ECML for quite a while before that, and wouldn't have been seen again for a long time after.

[davidw]

4 minutes ago, great northern said:

Regular workings didn't happen until 1961, which is when Immingham got its allocation on transfer from the GE. Trains Illustrated October 1958 however tells us that on 28th August 70041 worked into KX with the Up Car Sleeper, and that two days later it was seen at Darlington on the 1008 Saturday KX- Glasgow. That's the point I was making above, I could run 70041, or 70003/37, all of which are recorded on the ECML that month. However, those were fleeting visits, and they probably hadn't been on the ECML for quite a while before that, and wouldn't have been seen again for a long time after.

Thanks Gilbert. I had wondered. They're cracking models but I wonder if I'll actually use them. Particularly 70008 in the light of your comment. Looks like I might be shifting them.