Peterborough North

[Mallard60022]

One or the other. I never could tell the difference.

Rather like many coaches, it were the internals wot was different.

J. Clarkson.  

[landscapes]

A couple of detail shots next. The first is from the hotel garden, which is in the middle of a refurbishment.

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I think it is now three years that i have been telling myself to get on with finishing this area. We also have a well to do looking gent heading for the main entrance.

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Hi Gilbert

 

Greeting from sunny Spain, but not quite as hot as the UK at the moment.

 

Great photos and a nice touch to see other areas of your wonderful layout, really nice detailing to the buildings as well.

 

Please keep the photos coming.

 

Regards

 

David

[great northern]

I've had a long day today, so it is a brief visit, and just a couple more of the general views. The hotel first.

 

and a look along part of the fiddle yard.

The small white numbers are for route setting purposes.

[richard.h]

I've had a long day today, so it is a brief visit, and just a couple more of the general views. The hotel first.

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and a look along part of the fiddle yard.

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The small white numbers are for route setting purposes.

Those close up shots of the buildings really do highlight the quality of the structures on Peterborough North, its rare to be able to take such fine detail shots without exposing minor flaws and in these examples I just can't see imperfections at all, perfect!

[great northern]

Those close up shots of the buildings really do highlight the quality of the structures on Peterborough North, its rare to be able to take such fine detail shots without exposing minor flaws and in these examples I just can't see imperfections at all, perfect!

Yes, it really is a testament to Peter's craftsmanship.

[great northern]

Back to something moving today. We have a Newcastle- KX goods parcels routed along the Up slow, which gives the chance to test out the photographic opportunities given by the Midland extension again.

Once again, it does the trick. This photo is definitely absolutely positively in black and white. Does it still work when the train is further along?

Yes, it does, though the extremely strong light was a real problem.

[great northern]

Time to reveal the latest development at PN. The District Engineer's area sort of just growed, and now the area south of Crescent Bridge is doing the same. Here is a view you haven't seen before, because it has been off stage. This is shown courtesy of, and acknowledging copyright of Andrew C Ingram.

A lovely photo of a D16, and we like them, don't we? However, if you can, please tear your eyes away from it, and look at the building which appears to grow out of its tender. This is described as a tranship shed. If I was going to take things further south of the bridge, this was the next in line. I discussed it with Peter, and we decided to go for it. Of course it had to be built on a sharp curve, which the real thing wasn't, but I've grown comfortable with the idea that while the layout doesn't claim to be an exact copy of the real thing, it can have some of the right buildings, adapted to the site available. As with the Goods office, Peter has delivered this really quickly, and as usual has done a grand job. He describes it as "tricky, time consuming but enjoyable". Here it is, seen from several angles.

 

This has actually got me working on getting more of this area completed, though some will have to wait till Peter next visits.

 

Now, I have to confess that I don't have much clue as to how this would have worked, and am rather puzzled. I would have expected a platform at the height of the floor of a van to enable loading and unloading, but this is set too high for that. If any of our ex railwaymen, or anyone else for that matter, can explain, I shall be very grateful. Could it be simply a means of keeping the workforce dry in inclement weather?

[stewartingram]

Wasn't the tarpaulin works somewhere here? I've no idea how this shed worked either, but let's try this?

The shed has open lower sides. Surely it would have been built in the period of the 'Oss rather than the Austin? So maybe a flat horse drawn trailer might back under the sides? (Mind you I've never seen a flat horse.....). And judging by your wagons that is about the right height for a van or open wagon floor? Also somewhere dry to load opens and use those tarpaulins.

What do I know? Just a suggestion, wait for the comments!

 

Stewart

[great northern]

One more image of that parcels train.

it is just starting to swing across to block the whole ECML again, hopefully only temporarily.  Meanwhile the Ivatt on the Kings Lynn local can't remove its stock from Platform 2, so the following local, this time from Grimsby, is held at signals.

[great northern]

The Grimsby local has completed its journey and gone off to the carriage sidings, to be replaced by another Immingham B1 on the morning Grimsby Town- KX.

From the South comes something more glamorous. Lord Faringdon has the Down Fair Maid.

[great northern]

Wasn't the tarpaulin works somewhere here? I've no idea how this shed worked either, but let's try this?

The shed has open lower sides. Surely it would have been built in the period of the 'Oss rather than the Austin? So maybe a flat horse drawn trailer might back under the sides? (Mind you I've never seen a flat horse.....). And judging by your wagons that is about the right height for a van or open wagon floor? Also somewhere dry to load opens and use those tarpaulins.

What do I know? Just a suggestion, wait for the comments!

 

Stewart

 They were, or are, as I believe they still exist, further down towards the river, Stewart.  The whole thing is still a puzzle, unless it really was as simple as providing some cover for people shifting stuff from one wagon to another. But if that was the case, what would all the other people who had to work in the open in all weathers have had to say about it? Good grounds for industrial action, surely?

[The Stationmaster]

To me a transhjp shed means taking the contents of one wagon and loading them to another - say for example if a wagon was crippled or was not allowed off Company or id wagon loads were being broken down into different vehicles serving local stations..  But with vehicles like vans and opens I would expect the shed to have a deck (platform) at wagon floor level to enable the work to be done easily and of course the roof is there to prevent weather damage while there is no need to take teh walls down to ground level as there is no need for security as traffic would not be stored in the building.

[great northern]

To me a transhjp shed means taking the contents of one wagon and loading them to another - say for example if a wagon was crippled or was not allowed off Company or id wagon loads were being broken down into different vehicles serving local stations..  But with vehicles like vans and opens I would expect the shed to have a deck (platform) at wagon floor level to enable the work to be done easily and of course the roof is there to prevent weather damage while there is no need to take teh walls down to ground level as there is no need for security as traffic would not be stored in the building.

Mike to the rescue again! That does seem to sort the whole thing. It was the lack of a platform that threw me, but photos of this are very rare, and we have nothing at all showing the side away from the railway, which, looking at things logically, is where a deck would have been. I shall assume that it is hidden in the shadows or behind vans on the prototype images, and put one in, which shouldn't be too difficult.

[great northern]

Good evening. Here are two pictures entitled "good lord 'e's actually done something."

Ignore the J50, which is actually in the fiddle yard. I'll put some coaches in that road instead, and they won't look out of place. All is now ballasted to beyond the new shed, and we have some ground cover over the previously naked baseboard bits. The vans still need sorting though.

I've still got a corner to do, and we'll put a deck in to the right of the vans. More levels to work out over there too, but all in all a satisfactory afternoon's work.

[Market65]

Well, Gilbert, the new transship shed really has added yet another new dimension to the excellent layout of Peterborough North. The internal deck will be it’s finishing touch. The layout is certainly longer and it will be even more delightful to work now that Crescent Bridge is no longer the ‘boundary’ at that end of the layout. Getting the other extension with the two sidings on it completed with ballasting, etc, will surely leave little to do except basic maintenance, and, of course, the running of all those lovely trains themselves.

You have accomplished so much with this remarkable layout, and I heartily congratulate you, and all of your helpers.

 

With best regards,

 

Rob.

[great northern]

Well, Gilbert, the new transship shed really has added yet another new dimension to the excellent layout of Peterborough North. The internal deck will be it’s finishing touch. The layout is certainly longer and it will be even more delightful to work now that Crescent Bridge is no longer the ‘boundary’ at that end of the layout. Getting the other extension with the two sidings on it completed with ballasting, etc, will surely leave little to do except basic maintenance, and, of course, the running of all those lovely trains themselves.

You have accomplished so much with this remarkable layout, and I heartily congratulate you, and all of your helpers.

 

With best regards,

 

Rob.

 Thank you for those kind words Rob. I don't share your confidence as to the future though. In twelve days time we shall reach the eighth anniversary of this thread, and the start of the layout. I then had very positive ideas as to what was going to be done, and even four years ago I recall thinking that there was little more to do. Will it ever be finished? I'm not sure it will, or that I would be entirely comfortable if it was.

 

I may run out of places to which the layout can be extended, though I thought I'd done that a good while back, but there's a lot of lovely rolling stock that I don't have yet!

[great northern]

Just one more image tonight, taken mainly to emphasise the sheer bulk of Crescent Bridge.

It certainly does that, and confirms how successful we have been in filling in the space beyond.

 

[great northern]

As Lord Faringdon progresses a little further, it meets up with the Immingham B1.

and shortly afterwards, is seen emerging into daylight again.

 

[landscapes]

As Lord Faringdon progresses a little further, it meets up with the Immingham B1.

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and shortly afterwards, is seen emerging into daylight again.

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Hi Gilbert

 

I know I have said this before but that is a lovely typical Top Shed finish to 60034.

 

Two very nice photos of her or should I say him as well.

 

Regards

 

David

[great northern]

This is the last time you will see naked baseboard in the foreground of this view. 61190 is on its way to KX, next stop, Huntingdon.

 

I like to take photos from Spital Bridge, but space down that way is now very restricted, so I'm afraid there will be less of them. A check to see how the Midland sidings work from here was essential though, so the necessary contortions were performed.

 

The sidings work again.

[great northern]

For anyone who has been worrying that they've missed a possible cop at the head of that train coming in from Spital Bridge, don't worry, it's only Dominion of Canada on the 7.33 Up Nottingham.

 

Coming the other way though is something much rarer. Doncaster has used this ex works Haymarket engine for a run up to London on a relief to the 8.00 from Leeds/ Bradford.

[chaz]

For anyone who has been worrying that they've missed a possible cop at the head of that train coming in from Spital Bridge, don't worry, it's only Dominion of Canada on the 7.33 Up Nottingham.

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Coming the other way though is something much rarer. Doncaster has used this ex works Haymarket engine for a run up to London on a relief to the 8.00 from Leeds/ Bradford.

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Grand Parade is in the form I most liked the A3s - double chimney and no smoke deflectors (and a GNR style tender to remind us of its provenance) - excellent. 

 

Chaz

[chaz]

Hi Gilbert

 

I know I have said this before but that is a lovely typical Top Shed finish to 60034.

 

Two very nice photos of her or should I say him as well.

 

Regards

 

David

 

What a shame the loco lost its "Peregrine" nameplates. Thank goodness numbers 25 and 27 kept their original birds of prey names (and were often as clean and shiny as your model of 34).

 

Chaz 

[great northern]

The camera will continue to follow Grand Parade, and why not, as it is such a lovely sight.

The grain wagons come up trumps here, as thay allowed me to get closer than I've managed before to the angle at which so many Down trains were captured back in the day.

 

It is a strange fact that in some photo shoots everything leaves me a bit unsatisfied, whereas in others it all comes off. This session looks like another of the latter sort, as the next one finally nails another scene I've been trying to get right for ages.

It's the stock behind that knits the whole thing together again. Look at the contrast in Gresleys again though.

[chaz]

The camera will continue to follow Grand Parade, and why not, as it is such a lovely sight.

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The grain wagons come up trumps here, as thay allowed me to get closer than I've managed before to the angle at which so many Down trains were captured back in the day.

 

It is a strange fact that in some photo shoots everything leaves me a bit unsatisfied, whereas in others it all comes off. This session looks like another of the latter sort, as the next one finally nails another scene I've been trying to get right for ages.

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It's the stock behind that knits the whole thing together again. Look at the contrast in Gresleys again though.

 

 

The brake third looks fine, but what's happened to the tumblehome on the next two?