kevsmiththai Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 They will have to slide the lifting brackets in so the holes in the wall make sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, kevsmiththai said: They will have to slide the lifting brackets in so the holes in the wall make sense I'll try and find the video again and post a link. It does give a good shot of the actual washout as well. Ignore the first three minutes. Jamie 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25 (edited) On 22/03/2024 at 12:23, beast66606 said: 195104 (leading) and 195133 were involved and 104 has sustained a lot of damage. By the look of the video posted later (above post) the train had been in hard contact with the wall for some distance, with a lot of the stonework dislodged, the void under the track also seems to go under the up line a bit as well. Edited March 25 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 That’s a big job sorting that out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26 There is a picture somewhere on faceache showing that the crane has arrived from the north. From other pictures it seems that the westernmost unit is completely derailed and the eastern one is still on the track. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 26 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, jamie92208 said: There is a picture somewhere on faceache showing that the crane has arrived from the north. From other pictures it seems that the westernmost unit is completely derailed and the eastern one is still on the track. Jamie The crane is self propelled, the loco which brought it down from Carlisle returned as locos are not permitted near the site at the moment. The "plan" (which will no doubt change as things move along) is that the unit on the track will move under it's own power, the derailed and badly damaged unit may be lifted off it's bogies, presumably to be lifted onto a flat bed vehicle but ... it's all a bit up in the air at the moment (excuse the pun) as lots of things are unknown, especially how secure the track is to enable the lifting. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idd15 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Some pics from this morning taken from the road and footbridge nearest the incident. Might be on the BBC news this evening as a local team were also there: Edited March 26 by idd15 Spelling 8 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26 I've just found this video. It shows the third coach of the derailed unit being rerailed. Ignore the commentary but it is quite interesting to watch it in progress. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, jamie92208 said: I've just found this video. It shows the third coach of the derailed unit being rerailed. Ignore the commentary but it is quite interesting to watch it in progress. Jamie Oh dear. Can't hold it still, hasn't heard of landscape mode and doesn't zoom in. TBH even on a large screen, I can't see much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Oh dear. Can't hold it still, hasn't heard of landscape mode and doesn't zoom in. TBH even on a large screen, I can't see much. Probably used to TikTok which is primarily portrait and she’s a schoolgirl by the looks of it so I wouldn’t expect TV quality filming. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted March 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26 10 hours ago, beast66606 said: The "plan" (which will no doubt change as things move along) is that the unit on the track will move under it's own power, the derailed and badly damaged unit may be lifted off I don’t want to speculate or start speculation but it seems strange to me that the lead unit looks severely derailed but that the second unit has passed over and remained on the track. If I’m reading the location of the hole correctly from that video. I guess I will just have to wait for the report to find out the ins and outs of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: Probably used to TikTok which is primarily portrait and she’s a schoolgirl by the looks of it so I wouldn’t expect TV quality filming. I agree but it does provide quite a bit of info. It isn't often that we get to see rerailing in progress. She posted a video of some viaduct repairs a few weeks ago and asked what certain thi gs were for. I commented and gave her the info and got a grateful reply. 1. They haven't split the derailed unit into it's separate vehicles 2. It seems that there is enough flexibility in the coupling and gangways to allow them to work one bogie at a time. We will have to wait for the report but I suspect that the driver was braking hard so the rear unit would have crossed the sinkhole rather more slowly than the front one. It can't have been good for the driver and it's good that no one got hurt. Perhaps the substantial stone wall p, ayed a part in keeping things safe. Jamie 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 I've looked at it twice more on a 27" screen. All I can see is a very out of focus crane jib going up and down at various points. I'll have to take people's word that the bogies are being lifted back on to the track because I just can't see it that closely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 20 hours ago, woodenhead said: I wouldn’t expect TV quality filming. Nor would I, but much better results are possible, even with youngsters. I've seen plenty filmed by the younger generation that I would be proud of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, melmerby said: Nor would I, but much better results are possible, even with youngsters. I've seen plenty filmed by the younger generation that I would be proud of. Most probably, but berating someone for not filming at a particular quality is not fair unless you paid them to do it and to a particular quality. i.e. no-one asked her to film it and it's our choice whether we watch it or not. 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: Most probably, but berating someone for not filming at a particular quality is not fair unless you paid them to do it and to a particular quality. i.e. no-one asked her to film it and it's our choice whether we watch it or not. I agree. I'm being a bit harsh, I was expecting to see a lot more from the video than actually was visible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: Most probably, but berating someone for not filming at a particular quality is not fair unless you paid them to do it and to a particular quality. i.e. no-one asked her to film it and it's our choice whether we watch it or not. She's a kid. She saw something interesting and created something in response. Creativity was not exactly universal among kids of my generation. 3 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Exactly ........ she needs encouragement to do whatever she wants ...... maybe she'll be up for a behind-the-camera Oscar one day ...................... probably not for filming a train re-railment tho !! 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27 There is actually another 8 minute video from herwith much better camera work taken near the seaward side of the train. The first four minutes show the process very clearly. I think we are fortunate that someone was present to video a fairly rare occurence. If she can do this at 15 I think she's done well. Jamie 3 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted March 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, jamie92208 said: There is actually another 8 minute video from herwith much better camera work taken near the seaward side of the train. The first four minutes show the process very clearly. I think we are fortunate that someone was present to video a fairly rare occurence. If she can do this at 15 I think she's done well. Jamie I think she's great value and a decent, happy, youngster who clearly loves trains. I hope no one shows her the negative stuff on here. She also seems to have got some of the NR guys to talk to her as well. Chris 7 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28 Does anyone know if the trains have been, loved yet. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 28 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28 (edited) 19 minutes ago, jamie92208 said: Does anyone know if the trains have been, loved yet. Jamie I love them 😃 They have been moved near the signal box apparently. The crane has gone. Edited March 28 by beast66606 clarified 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted March 28 Moderators Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Gilbert said: I think she's great value and a decent, happy, youngster who clearly loves trains. I hope no one shows her the negative stuff on here. She also seems to have got some of the NR guys to talk to her as well. Chris Fair play to her; she's capturing and saying what she sees - it's not about 'me me me me' like so many others. She then took the time to go back, do more, and do it better. She's got good character. 6 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Gilbert said: ... She also seems to have got some of the NR guys to talk to her as well. What amazes me is that she - or anyone else for that matter - was actually allowed to get within sight of the job without head to toe high-viz, hard hat, totectors etc.etc. ...... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatus-maximus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: What amazes me is that she - or anyone else for that matter - was actually allowed to get within sight of the job without head to toe high-viz, hard hat, totectors etc.etc. ...... If it isn't railway land, or there is a public right of access, there is nothing the railway can do. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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