Butler Henderson Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Finally got the brake rods to stick in place on the loco without any chopping of the plug in bits referred to by toboldlygo. The trick seems to be to remove the body and once one side is stuck in place to place the chassis on its side with the glued side upwards and glue in turn each of the other brake rod locations in place with the brake shoe resting onto top of a suitable support ( ie a pencil sharpener) that pushes the brake gear and rods enough to stop it coming apart whilst the glue sets. As for the glue I resorted to the rather expensive Evo-Stick Serious Glue which seems to cope well with the plastic Sanda Kan use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi there, Has anyone who orderd there LSWR T9 No. 120 recived it yet? I got a letter saying it will arrive in early December so it should be hear soon, Anyone got it yet? Cheers, Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 5, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2009 The SR Black T9 with 6 wheel tender has just arrived from Hornby and at last they've got it right. The guard irons are at the rear as per the prototype. Dave Good news I thought - until I spotted images of a black T9 #314 advertised on ebay with such poor pics they have to be genuine! Note tender guard-irons are back at the cab end! E-bay item no is 270496401314. [Note the last 3 digits - this is not a legpull, really!] This suggests to me, given the apparently genuine Hattons photos, that China has indeed cracked the problem by removing that awkward lug - so now the tender frames fit either way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 21C123 Posted December 10, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2009 Hi all I have just received the new T9, 30119. The green is quite different from the malachite of my Hornby Bulleid pacifics, was it supposed to be the same or was it an oiive shade ? Doesn't really matter to me as it is a nice loco, the star on the front is an unusual touch. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2010 Just purchased one of these gorgeous locos today. R2711 No.729 with the 6 wheel tender, which has had the frames duly changed around. Not going to bother with the cylinder cocks though. Havent run it yet so am not sure if the front bogie will lift the front drivers off & reduce traction so will have to see. I am loving this engine. Hoping to get the Southern Suburban 1938 Train & coach pack & also the NRM T9 (if it still available in NZ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Belgian Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thank you nnich and Belgian for the useful instructions. As it happens I don't need to give it a go - I was waiting for a late crest version but decided against when I saw the weathering effect. Instead I decided to wait for an unweathered late crest example. I haven't yet bought a Hornby 75000 yet for the same reason (late crest BR1B tender)because I'm not convinced by Hornby's factory weathering of steam locos (it's fine for diesels). Three and a half years on we're all still waiting . . . JE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 19, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2014 Three and a half years on we're all still waiting . . . JE The wait is over.... I've just received Kernow's latest newsletter and they've received the two outstanding T9s: R3107 30313 in black with late crest and 6 wheel tender, RR3108 708 SOUTHERN sunshine black and 8 wheel tender. No photos yet; let's hope the 6 wheel tender is correctly assembled this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90rob Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Two nice pictures of the original 30313 on the DNSR in 'On Didcot, Newbury & Southampton Lines' by Kevin Robertson, both with WR coaching stock. Engine 'lightly weathered', and someone has dragged their hand down the side of the tender! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted September 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2014 Some pictures of 30313 here - http://www.southern-images.co.uk/lightbox/index.php?module=media&pId=102&id=3985 http://www.southern-images.co.uk/lightbox/index.php?module=media&pId=102&id=1777 http://www.semgonline.com/steam/t9class_02.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90rob Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The wait is over.... I've just received Kernow's latest newsletter and they've received the two outstanding T9s: R3107 30313 in black with late crest and 6 wheel tender, RR3108 708 SOUTHERN sunshine black and 8 wheel tender. No photos yet; let's hope the 6 wheel tender is correctly assembled this time. Tender frames the right way round, improved packaging allows tender to remain coupled when packed away, smooth runner before running in...looking good so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted September 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2014 Tender frames are the right way round, judging by the pics Kernow have just put up on their Facebook page. However the pipework between the driving wheels, is the wrong way round again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 24, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2014 Tender frames are the right way round, judging by the pics Kernow have just put up on their Facebook page. However the pipework between the driving wheels, is the wrong way round again! Bless them. Easily fixed though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted September 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2014 Got mine today and proceeded to fit a decoder. However the 8-pin socket in the tender appears to be installed upside down - ie with the solder pads and wires fixed thereto face up. Is it supposed to be like this? There's no indication of which pin is 1 so I guessed and got it wrong. Reversed the decoder placement and it works fine, but I'm struggling to get the tender back on due to the harness (it's a Lenz Standard+) so I will probably have to reduce that by removing the accessory wires as these aren't required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2014 I always found the tender circuit board to be in a silly position if you actually wanted to plug in a decoder with wires. I think my several T9s have decoders hard-wired - easy to do with, as said above, no accessory functions required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Received my latest R2108 T9 last week. SR 1942 Black with Sunshine "SOUTHERN". Easily converted to DCC with drop in TCS DP2XUK decoder. Someday I will look into sound for the T9. Then I renumbered to 703 by just changed the last number to 3 from 8 using HMRS Pressfix. removet the digit 8 and apply the "3" which is a perfect match. 703 was shedded at Wadebridge until 1948 as befits my Padstow layout in the immediate post WW2 era. Still has to go back to programming track for number change. Details can now be applied and weathering to a somewhat shabbier look undertaken. Only one thing I need now is a Snifter Valve. Anyone know of a source probably in white metal or brass or 3D print? These do not appear to have been removed until BR shopping in the 50's. Not in the Hornby bag of parts.... I have another T9 33x to repaint black and letter from said HMRS sheet to 301 which was an Exmouth junction in 1946-7 with wide splashers and 6 wheel tender . It was purchased when I was unsure of the era I was modelling in Maunsell Green. My original was 120 which got me started on Padstow 5 years ago and will stay on the display shelf in Maunsell olive green.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Only one thing I need now is a Snifter Valve. Anyone know of a source probably in white metal or brass or 3D print? These do not appear to have been removed until BR shopping in the 50's. Not in the Hornby bag of parts.... I found the brass MarKits SR Snifter valves on Peter's Spares and have duly ordered. Expensive little . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I found the brass MarKits SR Snifter valves on Peter's Spares and have duly ordered. Expensive little ######. It gets even more expensive. I found out I need two snifter valves per locomotive. Analysis of post Maunsell/Urie rebuild, pre BR pictures in Book of T9's and Semgonline indicates they were on both sides. I have 2 N Class, and the pending Drummond 700 to do for stock that fit on North Cornwall/Padstow pre1948. At least I don't recall snifters on BWT's or O2's. What's a poor old boy to do... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Failing eyesight! I had not looked close enough at my models. Hornby actually did model the 708 and 313 I have with snifters. If you look closely at the picture above you will also seem them. The 313 needs to be re-painted black with Bullied Sunshine Southern lettering and renumbered as 301 which was shedded at Exmouth Junction in the immediate postwar period. 708 now in it's guise as 703 was shedded at Wadebridge 1945-47, The buffer beam number on 708 was just altered with a little red paint to 703. My T9 120 is in preservation Maunsell green and has no snifters. The Markits SR snifters I ordered will now be used on the Bachmann N Class engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2014 Failing eyesight! I had not looked close enough at my models. Hornby actually did model the 708 and 313 I have with snifters. If you look closely at the picture above you will also seem them. The 313 needs to be re-painted black with Bullied Sunshine Southern lettering and renumbered as 301 which was shedded at Exmouth Junction in the immediate postwar period. 708 now in it's guise as 703 was shedded at Wadebridge 1945-47, The buffer beam number on 708 was just altered with a little red paint to 703. My T9 120 is in preservation Maunsell green and has no snifters. 703 Closeup Showing Snifter.JPG The Markits SR snifters I ordered will now be used on the Bachmann N Class engines. Nice photo, you just need to correct the pipework between the Driving wheels - as it is the wrong way round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Good day everyone! I have not posted here before but... … having recently bought a second-hand T9+6-wheel tender was astonished to see the errors that I now realise you have been debating since 2009 or thereabouts (ie the tender sideframes and loco pipes back-to-front). I'm so glad I read this forum because, as many of you have said, it was a 10 minute job to sort out the tender and I'll do the same to the loco once I have summoned up enough courage to remove the body from the chassis. No problem with the front bogie on my model. That said (and forgive me if this is slightly off-topic), I have just received the new N15 (Sir Sagramore) whose pulling power out of the box was such that it barely moved along under its own steam, as it were. A look at the front bogie support plate showed that it was so bent down that only the rear drivers were on the track. Bent the offending plate upwards a little and now he pulls like a good'un. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2014 Good day everyone! I have not posted here before but... … having recently bought a second-hand T9+6-wheel tender was astonished to see the errors that I now realise you have been debating since 2009 or thereabouts (ie the tender sideframes and loco pipes back-to-front). I'm so glad I read this forum because, as many of you have said, it was a 10 minute job to sort out the tender and I'll do the same to the loco once I have summoned up enough courage to remove the body from the chassis. No problem with the front bogie on my model. That said (and forgive me if this is slightly off-topic), I have just received the new N15 (Sir Sagramore) whose pulling power out of the box was such that it barely moved along under its own steam, as it were. A look at the front bogie support plate showed that it was so bent down that only the rear drivers were on the track. Bent the offending plate upwards a little and now he pulls like a good'un. Mike Do us all a favour ,please and e mail Hornby with that info. If we all did that,me included,then maybe ,just maybe,they'll do something to stop the occurrence of errors such as the one you describe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2014 Just a heads up, todays Rails advent offer is for R3107 T9 30313 at 89.50 https://railsofsheffield.com/br-4-4-0-t9-class-greyhound-br-lined-black-late-crest-30313-r3107-JJJA18493.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Interesting as my R3108 is marked CHL so it appears Hornby was able to move production of the T9 from Sanda Kan and thus may issue further versions. But some of the same errors exist as in early Sanda Kan production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2014 My R3107 T9 arrived from a certain Sheffield Emporium this morning. Looks good, tender frames are the correct way round, paint and lining is faultless and new style packaging (no bits floating round that shouldn't). Only issue (so far) is the pipes under the running plate are reversed (easy to remedy). Will give it a test run shortly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2014 Progress report... My latest T9 (R3107) ran ok straight from the box, however I did have to tweak the pick-ups on the front bogie slightly as they were stopping the wheels from turning properly (nothing new there!!) After this relatively minor tweak, 30313 ran very smoothly and relatively quietly. I happy to report the haulage capability is excellent, I had mine hauling a rake of 6 Hornby Pullmans (12 wheeled ones mainly) with absolute ease. Probably the only shot you'll see of this T9 as 30313, as she is destined to become 30301 in the not to distant future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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