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Those were contract rates to the contractor including the supply of tools, etc. not wages. The worker probably got less than 2p-3p an hour. Living then was all about day to day survival for workmen

 

 

Hi Ron

 

Like many others I have been following this thread for many weeks, absolutely overawed with what you have achieved, as well as with your calm modesty. You truly are an inspiration to a large community of terrified "planners" who don't quite know where to start!

 

You say "day to day survival." Of course, this was a little bit prior to the health & safety overkill we endure these days so it wasn't always just about hand-to-mouth living; do you have any figures on how many lives and limbs were lost during construction? The macabre inner-me can't help but imagine that there might just be a construction worker at his final rest in the bottom of one of those cylinders :scared:

 

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Phil

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Hi Ron

 

Like many others I have been following this thread for many weeks, absolutely overawed with what you have achieved, as well as with your calm modesty. You truly are an inspiration to a large community of terrified "planners" who don't quite know where to start!

 

You say "day to day survival." Of course, this was a little bit prior to the health & safety overkill we endure these days so it wasn't always just about hand-to-mouth living; do you have any figures on how many lives and limbs were lost during construction? The macabre inner-me can't help but imagine that there might just be a construction worker at his final rest in the bottom of one of those cylinders :scared:

 

Cheers

 

Phil

 

Hi, Phil

 

I know that all rail deaths were recorded and can found in archives, but not so sure about the construction. Will try and find out for you

 

Thanks for your comments by the way

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Top Castellations here we come -

 

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Assembly fixed on top

 

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Then the decorative cappings -

 

Decided to make a strip assembly similar to an extrusion, so that pieces can be cut off to required length

 

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Cappings 'extrusion'

 

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Cut pieces loose fitted

 

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Lower level fixed

 

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Close-up

 

Note the open ends of the cappings are filled with moulding clay

 

- and now for the top level

 

... to be continued >>>>>

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Congrats on your mention in MRJ 207, Ron. B)

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for that, wasn't sure which issue the photos would be in

 

Waiting on my copy to be delivered, probably another week or two yet

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Hi, Colin

 

Thanks for your much appreciated comments, although the one about earthquakes is a little near home, well about 200 km (125 miles) away

 

Cheers

 

Ron

 

Sorry about that Ron, didn't realise how close you were to that area!

 

Colin

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Sorry about that Ron, didn't realise how close you were to that area!

 

Colin

 

Hi, Colin

 

Absolutely nothing to apologise for

 

I was being as frivolous as you. Sometimes existing events intervene

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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The pier build is complete -

 

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Top castellations capped

 

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The completed pier

 

Just the two crosses to drill & cut into the plain surface

 

Primer painting it tomorrow just to check for imperfections, etc.

 

... then two more piers AA and the bracing connecting beam

 

... to be continued >>>>>

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Just the two crosses to drill & cut into the plain surface

I'm surprised that you didn't cut the crosses while the panel was a flat piece of plasticard Ron, then you could have put another piece behind it for the infill. Was there a reason I've missed? Other than that it's awesome again!

 

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I'm surprised that you didn't cut the crosses while the panel was a flat piece of plasticard Ron, then you could have put another piece behind it for the infill. Was there a reason I've missed? Other than that it's awesome again!

 

Andi

 

Hi, Andi

 

I forgot cray.gif

 

- however, there are two saving graces :yahoo:

 

1. The holes will vent the enclosed box and reduce any warping from the solvent yes.gif

2. Unfortunately this face of the pier is almost completely obscured by the adjacent Cornbrook Viaduct cray.gif

 

I bet your now wondering why I went to all that trouble to model something which wont be seen - it was the best way to sort out any future build problems on the remaining 14 which will be seen or maybe I just wanted to see how the build looks yes.gif

 

:drinks:

 

Ron

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I bet your now wondering why I went to all that trouble to model something which wont be seen

 

Ron, I don't think you understand the concept of cutting corners / modeller's licence ..... B)

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Ron, I don't think you understand the concept of cutting corners / modeller's licence ..... B)

 

HI,

 

I cut corners but not so as they are obvious or visible yes.gif

 

Just one example -

 

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The original cross bracing

 

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The production cross bracing

 

Because the production process constructed 25-30 at a time on a template the ends of the individual braces were not cut as individuals unsure.gif

 

The casual observer will not notice such a small difference, but it is there (shortcut or not ?)

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Just finished spraying the pier with Halfords Grey Primer - nothing special

 

Should be dry in about 15minutes - Its warm again today - Shade temp here is just over 30 deg C - Workshop is about 24 deg C

 

Will post photos then

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Had a problem with lighting - Too bright outdoors - a bit iffy indoors

 

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The Pipe Data is showing through the primer - will have to find a way of removing/covering it

 

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If you want a close-up of any particular area, just ask and I will post it

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Was sent this photo by a friend in Manchester

 

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The actual pier - see how close it is to the Cornbrook Viaduct

 

The Viaduct on the left is the Salford branch off the MSJ&AR Viaduct

 

Ron

 

PS. Model needs a bit of weathering yes.gif

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As the prototype pier appears to made up from sections of metal, curved to form the pipe, you could use sections of paper on your model to represent this - this would also help cover the pipe information visible through the primer.

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As the prototype pier appears to made up from sections of metal, curved to form the pipe, you could use sections of paper on your model to represent this - this would also help cover the pipe information visible through the primer.

 

 

Now I think that is a bridge to far.

 

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As the prototype pier appears to made up from sections of metal, curved to form the pipe, you could use sections of paper on your model to represent this - this would also help cover the pipe information visible through the primer.

 

Hi,

 

G...t minds think alike yes.gif

 

Half way thro' that exact suggestion

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Tried paper, but didn't work out as expected. So tried 5thou plasticard, which worked fine -

 

Before painting -

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This is the face hiding the pipe print

 

After application of primer -

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This is the face hiding the pipe print

 

Definitely needs weathering, etc., but not yet

 

... to be continued >>>>>

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As A PS, are you doing the bricks on the inside of the columns as well?

 

OK I've got my coat

 

... along with the 19ft (76mm) foundations you can't see rolleyes.gif

 

I left myself wide open with the comment about not seeing most of the pier :yes:

 

Ron

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How frustrating. This topic has been moved to the bowels of RMweb!!!! I have made a new direct link to your thread so I can continue to watch in awe instead of trawling through about 75 topic categories. I would have thought Layout Topics would cover the building of the bits that go on the layout?

 

Rant over - back to fighting with Flash animations (don't ask).

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