RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 2, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2011 just thinking about scenic treatments.....does it snow up in Whitewater? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Dunno about Whitewater - it's elevation that decides it. Flagstaff is way to the south in Arizona yet they got 5 foot of snow in one day a year or so ago (it's at 7000+feet above sea level). Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I don't know if it snows in that part of southern New Mexico either. But there's a map in post 56 and Whitewater's elevation is shown as 5157 feet. Personally, I prefer the idea of cold dry desert, with tumbleweeds! All the best, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 A couple more references for you http://www.worldtrav...-mexico/weather which looks as though above 5000' in winter can have snow and poking about turned this up - free topo maps http://www.anyplacea...ant_county/-/0/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 3, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2011 Snow it is then. Iced tumbleweed anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 And then there were two....... 2 Boards running & 2 Diesels Sorry about the diesels John, but the longer I have these boards of yours, the more infested its going to get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 5, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2011 D, looks like you have an evenings work just adding the detailing to 5003. Do you have any stock for them to pull yet? What period is the new loco? Sounds like we'll have blue and yella diesels running through a wintery scene then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2011 That livery is 1970's. The loco, an SD40, was delivered in April '66 in an older livery. By 1981 it had a cab air-con unit and rotating beacon, but still in these colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I've got to say I prefer US diesels - way more colorful than their steam engines. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2011 I've got to say I prefer US diesels - way more colorful than their steam engines. Generally true, but the Southern Railway managed to look pretty good with many of its classier steamers having green boiler jackets; I think the B&O may have had some blue locos, including P7 "President" class pacifics; Espee's Daylight livery was admired by many - and I assume the Nashville, Chattanooga & St Louis "Yellowjackets" got their name from somewhere! As for the diesels, if you think recent schemes have been colourful, check out the pre-War designs of many of the early streamliners. Atlantic Coast Line, Seaboard Air Line (nothing to do with aviation!), Union Pacific, Rock Island etc etc.... Santa Fe's first diesels were decorated in the "Warbonnet" livery of red and silver, and this was reproduced more than 50 years later on some modern units, to equally good effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Chris - you have email - please pass it on to John and Damian - and take a look at the Google Maps link! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 US Steam locos were actually quite colorful. Interestingly, J.P.Morgan, who invested in numerous railroads and squeezed the buck out of them by making them efficient, instituted a policy of all-black locos with simple lettering, so until the streamline era, roads like the Lehigh Valley and New Haven were pretty dull -- and before the 1920s, the Southern was a Morgan road and all-black, too. The Great Northern had green boiler jackets and red cab roofs. Pennsylvania Railroad locos were a "Japan green" (which is the proper art color for the paint) with red cab roofs and tender decks, and before 1930 or so had elaborate gold and orange lining. There is sketchy evidence that one or more K4s was painted Tuscan red about 1930. Gray boiler jackets were fairly common, on the Atlantic Coast Line, RF&P, Northern Pacific, Duluth, Missabe, and Iron Range, the Southern Pacific, and probably others I can't think of. The Norfolk and Western applied graphite to the entire boiler before World War II. The Rio Grande had green boiler jackets, exactly when and on what locos is controversial, but you can see some standard gauge locos with dirty green boilers after World War II; some black and white photos strongly suggest some narrow gauge locos had them before World War II. Blackstone gives people a choice! The GM&O painted some of its passenger locos red and maroon. The Pittsburgh and Lake Erie painted its 2-8-4s a color close to Pullman green, which was a color they also used on some diesels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Neither of you mentioned the Reading "Crusader" - streamliner clad in stainless steel (still looked bloody awful). Seriously nothing to compare with a Caledonian loco................BUT we all have our own likes and dislikes and now you know mine. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Trisonic, I'm with you on this one, I'm in the diesels camp. Trouble is I've fallen for the delights of the all conquering 'Armour Yellow and Harbour Mist Gray' team (especially those Gas Turbines and F-Units) which I suspect will be less than welcome on our current AT & SF 'rails in the sand' project. Hmmmmmm. such is life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 UP have done some incredible specials on their new locos incorporating modern versions of the liveries of the lines that they have "eaten up". Can only hope that BNSF will follow suit (though I have a model of a current BNSF SDM 60 M in BN colours -which I like- but re- numbered as a BNSF......it's still wandering around the 'States like that, so far as I know). Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted June 6, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2011 Looks good guys. On the subject of track, I've got some Kato HO Unitrack which makes for a handy test track. Have to say I quite like the look of it compared to Peco code 75. Looking forward to following this thread. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Thanks for that Richierich. Just ordered a Cobolt Decoder to try out with the Tortoise motors. Of course as Cobolt - I guess - are in competition with tortoise they do not quote if the decoder will work with it or not. However, they do say that one chanel will power two cobolt point motors - so hopefully that should be enough 'Umph' for one tortoise. time will tell..... Owd Grinder - Are there any points you want to be configured as co-acting? - this may save on the quantity of decoders.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 9, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2011 Chris - you have email - please pass it on to John and Damian - and take a look at the Google Maps link! Hi Jack. I've only recently been able to retreve your email off the home PC and pass it on to J&D. A belated thanks from us all for the info and lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 9, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hi all. Have we mentioned yet that bits of the layout will be at this year's Members Day in July. So if you can, please come and see us! I'm sure Damian will be bringing his Merican blue and yellows along too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Chris - no problem - if you need more info, and I can help, just ask Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 The Cobolt decoders arrived. So just a few wires and we see if it works with the tortoise - it looks a nicely made unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Its in and it worked first time! Four (local) wires and thats it!! Right, I'm happy now, so I need to buy a load more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 10, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2011 Has John arrived yet D? 3rd pink floyd album and second beer. Sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Yeah Just got back from Chinese..... His nibs got here at 18;25 having gunned down various unsuspecting motorists on the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 11, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2011 Waggon train loaded. Course set through the Black Hills of NW Leicestershire, sneaking past Nottingham's Indian Reservations (big smoke signals at Ratcliffe on Soar) and then onwards through the rolling plains of wheat to the Newark Badlands. Get those beans started over the campfire and keep a lookout posted on the gates of Fort Ross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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