Building a G.W.R. Castle + more in 7mm OF from a JLTRT kit restarts on P.88 by OzzyO,

[N15class]

I think getting the cab details is one of the most aukward bits to do. The older the loco the less chance there is of a decent photo. The bigger passenger class seem to be the most photographed cab wise. But even then it is the more recently built classes. The preserved loco's are a help but you cannot be certain they are correct, even more so for the long lived classes with more modern updates. My recent 2MT, I looked at 5 or more cab photo's of different class members, and no two were alike. As for my little A1 I thnk there are more cab layouts than there are members of the class.

[ozzyo]

By the way, what we have been calling four sight feed lubricators are actually five (see your own picture of 4062 less its tender above). The fifth glass is actually on the outside edge round the corner from the other four. Whether or not Halls had these all through their service I don't know. I spoke with one of the engineers in the workshop and his guess is that as boilers evolved with higher superheat it necessitated a move to more feeds for the bigger engines. On 3205 the feeds were labelled ffrom left to right: cyls, cyls, regulator and it was confirmed that the middle one is a spare. On the five sight the four across the rear face were for cylinders (with duplicate spares again) and one round the corner was labelled regulator. One other observation is that one trick that the enginemen use (at Buckfastleigh at least) is to stick some silver foil behind the lubricator glasses so that they can more easily see the drops of oil flowing through the condensate. So a drop or two of white paint might model this feature. - never wear a woollen pullover).

Regards

 

Hello all,

 

thanks for the info, Gateman & John?

 

First lets go back to the condenser coils.

 

Type 1] single accordion type, one feed in one feed out.

 

Type 2?] overlaid accordion type two feeds in two feeds out, not a lot of coils.

 

Type 2} Overlaid accordion type, two feeds in two feeds out, more coils, (more like type 1)

 

Type 3] Later type of circler overlaid type, two feeds in two feeds out. This type was fitted to most of the later builds. The Kings came out with them so from approx. 1927.

 

The feed and return pipes from a circler overlaid type.

 

Now onto the sight feed lubricators.

 

These look to be as bad as the condensing coils.

 

Probable the first type, 1 glass

 

More than likely the third type (as there maybe one with two glasses, but I don't have a photo of one).

 

This is probable the last type, the 4 / 5 glass one. There may have been one with only 4 glasses?

 

Who said the G.W.R. was standardised?

 

OzzyO.

[Kenton]

Don't you think I'm mad enough? :crazy:  Or do you think I've still a way to go? :crazy_mini:

 

Already gone, completely gone ;)...but it is a warning to the rest of us not to travel too far down that road.

 

I have to say I admire all this cab detailing though wouldn't do anything like it myself. The attraction on a static model is easy to see, but on a working model? I also think it is one of those areas that when you start you may never end.

 

What was the outcome on the coupling hook - I think the one in the top of the photo should just go in the bin.

[ozzyo]

Already gone, completely gone ;)...but it is a warning to the rest of us not to travel too far down that road.

 

I have to say I admire all this cab detailing though wouldn't do anything like it myself. The attraction on a static model is easy to see, but on a working model? I also think it is one of those areas that when you start you may never end.

 

What was the outcome on the coupling hook - I think the one in the top of the photo should just go in the bin.

 

Hello Kenton,

 

if it's this one,

 

I would have probable done that but the slot in the buffer plank is that small. It would be a right royal pain in the harris to get the normal JLTRT one to fit.

 

I'll post some photos of the bits that I didn't use for it latter. Back to the painting.

 

OzzyO.

[Kenton]

No, it was this one

 

The top hook seems beyond all use. How did the experiment with replacing springs go - I'm always losing them as soon as I compress them they seem to launch into the oblivion of my work bench or worse, floor.

[ozzyo]

Hello Kenton,

 

it doesn't look that nice does it In this photo? Some of that is my doing to get the top shackle through the hook. But if you remember, there once was an ugly duckling Etc.

 

The bits from Scorpio that I didn't use,

 

The same coupling hook and all it's bits.

 

The same coupling on the left.

 

The same coupling on the left, this one's going on the tender.

 

I hope that it won't look as bad when it's black.

 

Well it's now in black, so what do you think now?

 

 

OzzyO.

 

PS. Kenton, to help lessen the loss of springs when putting them on coupling shanks, get your self a locking set of hemostats (not sure about the spelling, but doctor use them when they're working on your giblets).

[ozzyo]

Hello all,

 

3335 is now ready to go to it's owner.

 

After a lot of test running today I found that I had an intermittent short. At first I thought it was a brake shoe on the tender, so I sorted that out. But it was still there, so I had a good look on the loco and I noticed some paint worn from the back of the balance weights, this was it. It was caused by the 14BA screws that hold on the front springs, so I changed the cap head for counter sunk and it went away.

 

The loco body after U/S cleaning, in these photos I think that its just after the normal U/S fluid. But this time I used some Green Cillit Bang after it.

 

In the front view a lamp bracket has come off. I nearly binned this bit. Glad I didn't it was the lamp bracket.

 

The loco now in primer.

 

I did try some rubber tube for the rear coupling shaft, but it was to short to work. So I used a bit of spring out of a lighter.

 

The intermediate buffers from the inside.

 

The rear coupling and buffers.

 

The backhead with the black etch primer on it.

 

Off to bed now got to be up for 05;45. The next loco should be a G.W.R. County (10xx class).

 

OzzyO.

[Jon Fitness]

Beautiful result OzzyO but...ooo the details and pipe work on that backhead will take some polishing up!

Jon F.

[JeffP]

I'm surprised that the pipework hasn't been left natural?

[Grasshopper John]

Bloody amazing stuff.

 

Say no more.

 

Grasshopper.

[ozzyo]

Beautiful result OzzyO but...ooo the details and pipe work on that backhead will take some polishing up!

Jon F.

I'm surprised that the pipework hasn't been left natural?

 

Hello both,

 

first that will be sorted out by the tame painter.

 

 

How would you mask it off for painting? I would love to know.

 

OzzyO.

[Jon Fitness]

Hello both,

 

first that will be sorted out by the tame painter.

 

 

How would you mask it off for painting? I would love to know.

 

OzzyO.

 

Maskol?

[jazz]

Amazing stuff! I think a lie down and cold beer will help the recovery.

[steve fay]

Nice job Mate. We will have to get some pics of her once painted.

So on to the next one!!

[ozzyo]

Maskol?

 

I know I'm mad, I think I'm mad, I must be mad.

 

But that would be madness, and a step too far for a builder.

 

OzzyO.

 

PS. thanks for all the comments on the build.

[ozzyo]

Hello all,

 

it will soon be time to change the thread title, To J.L.T.R.T. County build in 7mm.

 

But first I've to fit a new tube in the grit blaster and a new extractor fan in the spray booth

 

OzzyO.

[roundhouse]

Can't you sleep?

 

[ozzyo]

Can't you sleep?

 

Went to bed about 11;45, got up about 12;45 fed up of the wifes snoring.

 

What are you doing up at this time?

[Sandy Harper]

I'll tell her you said that!!!!!!!!!!

Sandy

[scot6p]

Hi Ozzyo, love your work even though I don't do GWR, wish you did LMS and BR. How did you do the intermediate buffers are they scratch built or did you buy them?

 

Len Cattley

[roundhouse]

 

 

Went to bed about 11;45, got up about 12;45 fed up of the wifes snoring.

 

What are you doing up at this time?

 

Same here!

 

No only joking. We are in a different time zone at moment.

 

Ian

[steve fay]

Hi Ozzyo, love your work even though I don't do GWR, wish you did LMS and BR. How did you do the intermediate buffers are they scratch built or did you buy them?

 

Len Cattley

Oz is not a GWR man either and im sure he would love to build something LMS as this his area, Or BR for that matter. Once MOK release there 9f he will be building one for me.

[steve fay]

Hi Ozzyo, love your work even though I don't do GWR, wish you did LMS and BR. How did you do the intermediate buffers are they scratch built or did you buy them?

 

Len Cattley

Oz is not a GWR man either and im sure he would love to build something LMS as this his area, Or BR for that matter. Once MOK release there 9f he will be building one for me.

[ozzyo]

Hello Len,

 

as Steve has said I'm not a G.W.R. man. My main love is the L.M.S. so in a way at the moment I'm just making the prototypes for that railway. There are a couple of kits that i would really like to build, one of them is the MOK kit of the Stanier 8F

 

But back to the Bulldog. Here she is on her new home, her first days running on the layout as she does not have a chip fitted yet she can only run on one circuit. This circuit has some of the hardest gradients on the layout, I have seen bigger guest locos come to grief on this circuit with less behind the rear buffer plank than this Bulldog had.

 

The train that she was on was the 42 wagon mineral that the G2 is normally on. The G2 is close to her limit with this load on this circuit, she can take more on other circuits. IIRC we started the Bulldog with 16 on for about 4 loops to let her run in for a bit. Then another four were added and let her run for another four loops, and so on until we had 28 on the rear draw bar. we got her up to 32 but she could not get up two of the banks without having to stop and set back to put some slack into the couplings, then to set off up the gradient. after this we decided that 28 was her limit at the moment, not that bad for a small 4-4-0.

 

The intermediate buffers are Slater's 4mm L.M.S. ones with the square base turned off. I'll try and remember to take some photos of how I do it.

 

OzzyO.

[ozzyo]

Hello all,

 

one more photo of 3335 at home,

 

This is part of the layout that doesn't get photographed that much, she is just coming out of the L.M.S. fiddle yard and about to cross one of the big junctions that allow crossing from the L.M.S. to the G.W.R. and vice versa.

 

OzzyO.