RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2015 Where were you sourcing replacement chimneys/safety valve covers from. It lools like the the London Road rather beautiful cast version for the latter which strangely I have used (cut down) on a Highland loco! I have no idea of the origin of the chimney and safety valve, they were from a box of bits inherited from a late friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) That's interesting, the last couple I've built only have LNER and BR transfers, they do look different to the ones in the kits I built years ago. Hmmm? I bought a hopper kit some time last year (2014) and it had the same style transfer sheet as the last batch I bought in the 1970's. Don't know how long it had been in stock? and application method had changed from rub on to methfix. To do, apart from replacing things removed above. I may replace the coal rails as the loco I'm building at the time had three open rails. There is a part cab interior with the chassis kit to fit, I also have a cast backhead. Boiler bottom fillet (with kit) to fit. Lamp irons. Clack valves on boiler sides. EDIT. Seperate tanks from boiler. thanks Mike 7. Remove boiler bands??? 8. Remove Tank top rivets. ??? (A couple of top down 1950's pics of short bunkered 72's I've seen appear to have flush riveted tank tops but who is to say they were like that pre grouping?) P Edited January 7, 2015 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2015 Good to see the old art of RTR-bashing isn't dead yet. Bring on the razor saws! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes they are. Thanks Paul, I may get a chance tonight but after the dog walk and it being 37degrees today I may not feel like sitting down with a hot light and a soldering iron to do some more. On another aside I am a little surprised that Chris has not corrected the part numbering which is a diagram change and a note in the instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2015 Hmmm? I bought a hopper kit some time last year (2014) and it had the same style transfer sheet as the last batch I bought in the 1970's. Don't know how long it had been in stock? and application method had changed from rub on to methfix 7. Remove boiler bands??? 8. Remove Tank top rivets. ??? (A couple of top down 1950's pics of short bunkered 72's I've seen appear to have flush riveted tank tops but who is to say they were like that pre grouping?) P Hi Paul, All the P7s I am building and have to build at the moment are second hand unbuilt kits and I think these have been 'nicked', one of the kits has no transfers at all. I'll look at the boiler bands and rivets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiedog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Wizard Models do a 4mm scale etched NER detail fret - LS004 - which includes "hopper wagon brake gear". I think the latter is suitable for the P7 20t Hopper. The fret also has trespass notices, mileposts, a bridge number and load plates. All useful bits and pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2015 Wizard Models do a 4mm scale etched NER detail fret - LS004 - which includes "hopper wagon brake gear". I think the latter is suitable for the P7 20t Hopper. The fret also has trespass notices, mileposts, a bridge number and load plates. All useful bits and pieces. Hi David, I have some of those frets, I used the brake levers on some Ironstone hoppers, not the finest etches, I think Mark's would be more up to modern standards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ambis do some side brakes etches ? I used some for a couple of end brake versions I did from i think C+l a couple of years ago. Just looked but nothing there now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Thanks Paul, I may get a chance tonight but after the dog walk and it being 37degrees today I may not feel like sitting down with a hot light and a soldering iron to do some more. On another aside I am a little surprised that Chris has not corrected the part numbering which is a diagram change and a note in the instructions. There is another error along the same lines further on but I can't remember what it is now. You will know it when you get to it though. Apart from that the build was straight forward and very enjoyable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ambis do some side brakes etches ? I used some for a couple of end brake versions I did from i think C+l a couple of years ago. Just looked but nothing there now. Cooper craft do them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Hi Paul, All the P7s I am building and have to build at the moment are second hand unbuilt kits and I think these have been 'nicked', one of the kits has no transfers at all. I'll look at the boiler bands and rivets. Somewhere I have a spare sheet. If I can find it I'll stick it in the post? and now for a hijack... ...going back to the boiler bands, this is mine with them removed. I'll replace them with waterside sheet once the jobs been moved on a bit more. I agree with mark about the steps and spectacle plates. Etched make for a big improvement. I'm going to see if I can model one of the spectacles open. Only time will tell if that works out? My etches came from Mainly trains. Also a mention must go the that kindly Mr. Gubbins at High Level. He donated a couple of J72 test etches (from his scrap bin) so I could make a better job of the compensated brake linkages. There's spare set of EM linkages should you want them? Still a way to go. P Edited January 8, 2015 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2015 Cheers, that'll be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 11, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2015 After a few days away, I've managed to get a bit done tonight. I've taken the boiler bands off and thinned the cab spectacles a bit as suggested. I've started adding bits, the buffer beams are now on and it's starting to look like a loco again! I also spotted another job to do, I've taken off the cab door handrails but I will be leaving the doors in place. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2015 After a few days away, I've managed to get a bit done tonight. I've taken the boiler bands off and thinned the cab spectacles a bit as suggested. I've started adding bits, the buffer beams are now on and it's starting to look like a loco again! I also spotted another job to do, I've taken off the cab door handrails but I will be leaving the doors in place. IMGP0247-001.JPG Is the job you spotted, the chimney. It's the one I noticed andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2015 Fireless loco Paul? Is the job you spotted, the chimney. It's the one I noticedandy Two bottles and you spot everything! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 11, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2015 Look back at earlier photos and you will see a rather loose chimney... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2015 Fireless loco Paul? Two bottles and you spot everything! You spend all your time on these models but until you take a photo and see it in front of you, you just over look these little details. By the way , you probably need buffers, although NE stuff is not my strength. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2015 You spend all your time on these models but until you take a photo and see it in front of you, you just over look these little details. By the way , you probably need buffers, although NE stuff is not my strength. Andy Three bottles... Probably needs a spot of paint aswell...and, if Tony Wright is looking, some lamps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2015 Made a start lettering the P5/P17s using some of the Slaters transfers that I have, The 12 on the one on the left should be bigger but there are none bigger on the sheet. They still need tare weights and number plates and of course the other sides! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 I got the rest of the transfers on the hoppers yesterday morning. Today I have been working on a diagram V1 brake van, it was almost there, just needed horizontal handrails, steps and lamp brackets fitting. Now in primer, the roof is still loose. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 Some paint on the brake van. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Really nice work there, I like them a lot, very nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2015 Lettering on the brake van now, took some doing as the transfers are a bit old and dry, fixed down now with a couple of coats of Klear. Ignore the wrong number on the solebar, it will be painted over and renumbered, I've used that transfer for the 'North Eastern'. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2015 Lettering on the brake van now, took some doing as the transfers are a bit old and dry, fixed down now with a couple of coats of Klear. Ignore the wrong number on the solebar, it will be painted over and renumbered, I've used that transfer for the 'North Eastern'. IMGP0252-001.JPG Very nice Paul. That's an awful lot of seagull poo on that grey roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 20, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2015 Very nice Paul. That's an awful lot of seagull poo on that grey roof. Because it's a white grey roof... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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