Andy Y Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks to Adrian at A.B. Gee who had some of the latest Hornby pre-productions items on show. The GW Horsebox The 27T Tippler A Chance to compare Railroad and Boxed Set Tornado The B17 The KFA container flat is a nice piece of work with a weighty cast chassis and frame with very fine underframe detail OTA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondy Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 The horse boxes look fantastic. I had assumed they would be re-released Lima ones (which to be fair were pretty good looking), how wrong can you be. Need to get some good looking horses now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluex5 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 While not something I'd buy, the horse boxes look stunning. Why can't the B17 be a north east prototype I've no need for one but it looks so damn pretty. The A1 looks pretty good, For me it depends on where the selling price ends up. If it really does end up cheap then I'll probably buy one to see what can be done in terms of turning it into a "proper" A1 looky likey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 The A1 looks pretty good, For me it depends on where the selling price ends up. If it really does end up cheap then I'll probably buy one to see what can be done in terms of turning it into a "proper" A1 looky likey. In modelling terms, quite a lot. New boiler fittings of original height, move whistle to original position, new chimney to original height, new cab roof to original profile, new tender top to original coal space size and tank top. I'm of the opinion Hornby could steal a march on Bachmann if the chassis is good by eventually marketing their own Peppercorn A1 models, but that's a can of worms in duplication I don't wish to open. ...Although they could legitimately cover the roller bearing versions using the chassis off the Tornado model with little modification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 The Tornado is a bit off the rails but that GW carmine red horsebox is something. Interested to see Hornby has gone to the trouble of moulding Darlington spoke bogie weels for the B17. I always think they look a gaudy in LNER green but I'm sure a BR green version will look tasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hmmmm, that BR horsebox looks tasty, and the B17 to go nicely with my B12/3. Have to say, I'm struggling to tell which Tornado's which! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hmmmm, that BR horsebox looks tasty, and the B17 to go nicely with my B12/3. Have to say, I'm struggling to tell which Tornado's which! I'm guessing (cos I can't tell either!) that the box set one is the one that stays on the track? Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 That horsebox looks very nice and with the forthcoming Parkside LNER vehicle coming too, some interesting head-end traffic is imminent! Didn't push 'em for release dates for the 'boxes and B17s, did ya Andy? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Didn't push 'em for release dates for the 'boxes and B17s, did ya Andy? Dave. Horseboxes are shown for a mid-July release, The 1st batch of B17s are shown for May (R2920 to R2922), whilst the second tranche are currently shown for November release (R3003, R3004) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'm not into wagons but that horsebox is stunning - can we have it in 7mm please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2011 Any photos of either or both versions of the 4VEP at the show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 Any photos of either or both versions of the 4VEP at the show? GC Their were no 4VEPS on display at the show as officially Hornby were not represented. It is possible that there might be some pictures of the NSE liveried 4Vep in the next issue of Hornby Magazine as it was photographed during ModelRail Scotland. I have to say it looks good and the inter coach coupling appears to be a far better solution than the 4Cep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'm looking forward to the OTA, but sadly it looks like the preproduction model is already suffering from many of the problems that my kitbuilt cambrian models do! Namely broken/bent stanchions, derailing, and the ends not sitting quite square with the chassis (though this last fault might be a trick of the camera) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Why can't the B17 be a north east prototype I've no need for one but it looks so damn pretty. My sentiments exactly..... Not sure if I will get a LNER Apple Green one or wait for a Brunswick/ Late BR Green One so that I can renumber & rename it Hull City, if I don't get one of the first ones & repaint it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 The GWR horsebox looks excellent.I must admit I had reservations before I saw it,ex Lima and all that.The only niggle is the shirtbutton logo is too high.It needs to be between the second and third plank.I hope its remedied during production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Yes another "the horsebox is stunning" comment... Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'm looking forward to the OTA, but sadly it looks like the preproduction model is already suffering from many of the problems that my kitbuilt cambrian models do! Namely broken/bent stanchions, derailing, and the ends not sitting quite square with the chassis (though this last fault might be a trick of the camera) I thought the bent stanchions were prototypical! It does look like someone can't put models on tracks - unless the journo's have been allowed to get hands on? I do like the look of this, will be interesting to get a comparison with Bachmann's version when they're both available.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 - unless the journo's have been allowed to get hands on? Wholesaler rather than a press issue! I re-railed the ones I could reach in the cabinets for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 Wholesaler rather than a press issue! I re-railed the ones I could reach in the cabinets for them. Good for you - keep up appearances! I'd forgotten this was a trade fair not a press job - care to say how you wrangled your admission? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 No problem in answering that Rich; it is principally a trade fair to engage the retailers but the manufacturers (Bachmann in this instance) or wholesalers may invite 'press' (we should be called Meejaa these days ). Such announcements are part of their marketing process and we're one of the channels that they engage with. Most of the magazine editors will have also visited over the course of the event to get the full picture rather than just the press releases. As I'm a little more against it from a time perspective I go with the press releases so that you can see the factual side and then back it up with images and information in the topics that followed later yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shedmaster Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Andy, The Tornado models look great, however, are either of the ones pictured the R3070 special edition one or have I misunderstood ? Many Thanks for posting these pics...... Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted March 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2011 A couple of years ago I mentioned to Simon Kohler that the Lima horsebox would be a good product to revise for at least the Railroad range and mentioned I'd done a Lima/Parkside version and sent him a few pics. I took it to Warley that year and with Barry Ten, showed him the finished produc and he said it was a very interesting idea. Which was nice. Indeed, and it motivated me to try to do a neat job assembling my own Parkside version, sneaking into view in this shot: I also ordered the chassis parts from Parkside to replicate PMP's Lima upgrade but as yet I haven't tackled it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2011 No problem in answering that Rich; it is principally a trade fair to engage the retailers but the manufacturers (Bachmann in this instance) or wholesalers may invite 'press' (we should be called Meejaa these days ). Such announcements are part of their marketing process and we're one of the channels that they engage with. Most of the magazine editors will have also visited over the course of the event to get the full picture rather than just the press releases. As I'm a little more against it from a time perspective I go with the press releases so that you can see the factual side and then back it up with images and information in the topics that followed later yesterday. Nice to know you / we are still sufficiently in Bachmann's good books for them to do this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I've done the Lima/Parkside build - very easy, PMP gave me the idea. Don't forget to pack the solebars up slightly or it sits a bit low. I missed that on mine. I don't want to nitpick, but isn't the Hornby model the same diagram? Paul says 'three easy GWR boxes available' but I can't see where the third one comes from - unless you count scribing the planks into the end of the Parkside one to make the preceding diagram. Guess who's looking for horseboxes for a project? Which reminds me, Paul - there's another cracking photo of a hunt special in 'Doctor on the Line' by Dr. Ian Allen. 2 X BTK, 12 x HB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Got that one JW! Thought you might. Mind, I don't envy you building 12 Jidenco LMS horseboxes (unless someone else does them) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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