Michael Delamar Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 yes but which film im not sure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Green Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Ran my new 0-6-0 LMS Jackshaft shunter on Lime Street for the first time on Monday. Only managed to pull 33 coaches, most of which were heavy Comet coaches, with no slipping!!! Must take a photo sometime! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 25, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2012 Ran my new 0-6-0 LMS Jackshaft shunter on Lime Street for the first time on Monday. Only managed to pull 33 coaches, most of which were heavy Comet coaches, with no slipping!!! Must take a photo sometime! I knew we'd convert you to diesels one day.......... Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Johns's prototype deltic does get a run out now and again, even though its too "modern" for the period the layout is set. real thing at Lime street in 1955. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6470 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 some shots i took in 2006, not the best quality they were taken on a mobile phone, Chris Hewitt and John Holden working on the track.. Mike Wow, I have just spent the last days reading through this thread, like everybody else I'm very impressed and take my hat of to you and the team. I have tried to access the old RMweb pages to see the early stages of Lime Street Station but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be available at the moment but I do appreciate the above photographs. May I ask what the baseboards are constructed from and also the platform edges, they look like pine but with the shape you have, perhaps not. Thanks Dan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted April 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2012 Five of the Lime Street team joined members of the LMS Society for a ride in the L&Y "Manchester & Blackpool Club Carriage on the Keighly & Worth Valley Railway. What a superb restoration job. Weather could have been more pleasant, but we had an enjoyable trip anyway. Over lunch we discussed the next developments to be tackled on the layout. They will no doubt be reported in some detail on this Topic, but include: further CCTV cameras to improve operation, changes to the control software to prevent unintentional despatch of trains from the sector plate to the station, on-going fine detailing of the railway infrastructure (adding chairs, ballasting, platform edges, minor buildings etc.). weathering of the non-railway infrastructure the Station Hotel a major improvement to audience visibility of the station will be tackled by a High Definition TV Camera and two large monitors. the article on re-signalling of Lime Street in LMS Journal contained some very useful information about how trains were handled at Lime Street, and the operating sequence will be reviewed with these in mind. We'll be prioritising these and agreeing which will be completed in time for the next outing which is to the Warley Show at the NEC in November. Steve. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 You all deserve a jolly after the modeling you have acheived ,that coach looks fantastic what was the ride like ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Green Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Ride was very smooth. It is only the coach body that is L&Y. The running gear is from a BR suburban coach! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted May 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2012 John and I spent today planning a number of improvements to the operation of the layout, and its visibility to spectators. There are a couple of blind spots in the CCTV system we use to monitor trains in the Station area. They are concerned with the location of the uncoupling magnets. We've identified the location for two further cameras which will solve these problems. Unfortunately, the video switch we use to manage the view seen on the Station operators' monitors has a capacity of eight inputs. The new cameras will raise the number required to nine! This means another video switch linked to the current one will eventually have to be installed. In the meantime, the highest priority camera will be installed in the spare port, and the second one will have to take its turn in the queue for Geoff's time. I mentioned previously the new information we had gleaned from the Signalling article in LMS Journal. We are now reviewing the operating sequence to reflect better the way the platforms were used in 1947, and how the trains were managed. We hope to generate a completely revised operating sequence in time for the Warley show in November. Previous comments on RMweb about not holding engines at the platform buffers are being adressed. The main section switching in the platforms is in place and allows Banking up the Cutting to be done. The ability to follow a departure up the platform and stop at the starting signal requires some further switching to be installed, and that is on our list of "to do's". At present, once a Station operator has set a departure route, he cannot do anything else until the Sector Plate operator has driven the train out, allowing him to clear the route. The plan is to introduce a "virtual" operator at the Station who will only set departuire routes. Once set these will be executed by the Sector Plate operator as at present, but this will leave the Station operator free to make other moves. The result will be a significant oportunity for simultaneous moves to be made. This will require a very major re-write of the Router software, and again will join Geoff's list. Those who saw the layout at Ally Pally will know how difficult it can be to see into the Station area when held back behind barriers. This will be adressed by the introduction of one or more HD video cameras and two large flat screen monitors, one in the Station area, and the other in front of the Cutting. We spent time today considering the location of the first HD camera, and the favoured view is seen in this shot I took on my phone: This view looks up platforms 7 to 11, which are the ones most obscured from spectators by the walls up Skehorne Street and the South Station roof. The view of platforms 1 to 6 through the larger North roof is less obstructed. I'm sure we'll post more details as these developments are realised in the coming weeks and months. Steve. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted May 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2012 I shall follow this with interest. Could you give more details of the HD cameras please as I would eventualy like to fit one or two under the roof at Bath for the same reasons you outline above, albeit on a much smaller scale! Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted May 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hi Jerry, The cameras have not yet been finally specified, but we'll post details when can. Steve. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Woolford Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 This layout is absolutely superb, pictures surely don't do it justice, this is a layout I must see. I have to thank the Lime Street team for producing such a masterpiece for us (and of course yourselves!) to enjoy. The attention to detail and the size of the layout is astonishing. One thing I must ask though is if anyone knows roughly how much the trolleys that the baseboards are transported in cost to make as I am considering doing something similar with my layout. Thanks, Michael 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 it would depend Michael. if you can weld and can get hold of the steel it would be a lot cheaper than getting someone to do it for you. John also had the frames powdercoated, a cheaper option would be something like dexian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Liverpool in 1946, some shots of trams on Lime street early on.. http://film.britishcouncil.org/merseyside 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Great film! Some excellent shots of road vehicles and their loads too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 banking out of Lime street, approx 10min30 in... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=ewYp4uPY_nQ&NR=1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Green Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Just because I am on holiday seems to mean nobody is doing anything on Lime Street. Or are you just not reporting on your activities!! I was in Boston USA last week working on the artwork for the station gates!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2012 Just because I am on holiday seems to mean nobody is doing anything on Lime Street. Or are you just not reporting on your activities!! I was in Boston USA last week working on the artwork for the station gates!! You're on holiday - no need to do any layout work.... Oops - forget the above, you're always on holiday. Keep working! Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 This layout is absolutely superb, pictures surely don't do it justice, this is a layout I must see. I have to thank the Lime Street team for producing such a masterpiece for us (and of course yourselves!) to enjoy. The attention to detail and the size of the layout is astonishing. One thing I must ask though is if anyone knows roughly how much the trolleys that the baseboards are transported in cost to make as I am considering doing something similar with my layout. Thanks, Michael HI I too would like to know where you got them from and how much they cost as i would like to use them for my new layout. All the best Darren 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 HI I too would like to know where you got them from and how much they cost as i would like to use them for my new layout. All the best Darren It would be hard to give a price as they are custom built, its like asking how much do baseboards cost to make. if you want them in steel, you would find a local supplier of 1" square steel tubing. then if you can weld, weld them into a frame for the size of your baseboards. or if not find an engineering firm or garage that would weld it up for you. then if you wanted them powdercoating find a local firm that does that. then extras such as trolley wheels. its expensive if you cant do things yourself but if you can then costs are brought down. there are many ways to do similar trolleys, such as dexian shelving material which can be bolted together rather than welded. could maybe even try to find actual bread trolleys. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The disadvantage with Dexion is its lack of rigidity unless well stiffened with triangulation. The bolts also tend to undo when subjected to movement/vibration. So it would need careful design and the use of nylock nuts. You could reduce the cost of welded trolleys by designing and making a kit of parts, which would then only need professional welding/brazing. Powder coating is very nice, but rather a luxury. For most exhibition/portable layouts a coat of etch primer and gloss paint would probably do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 You can learn to mig weld in a weekend if you are really persistent then you could hire a welder and do it your self. From a fabricators viewpoint the jobs above take more time so cost more money than the welding time, so doing the planning and cutting will save you more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 From what I have seen in a quick search - a good quality metal shelving trolley is worth a lottery win. Better to design and build your own if at all possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted May 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2012 Just because I am on holiday seems to mean nobody is doing anything on Lime Street. Or are you just not reporting on your activities!! I was in Boston USA last week working on the artwork for the station gates!! I'm also on holiday - caravanning in Cornwall. Currently undertaking "research" - reading Railway Books etc. Les, you should have provided homework as you did last year when I made several roof trusses in the caravan. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 nice shot of a cravens DMU approaching Lime street. http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00001-jrc-chris-carter-dmu-edge-hill-L.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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