Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I wonder if you could guide me to Holman Compressors thread as I had an interest in them at one time in the seventies whilst I lived nearby! Jock, You may have already found this. There's a few 16t minerals on the Roskear Branch Section of the Railways of Cornwall Website. e.g. http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/_9929324_orig.jpg Scroll down this page for the Roskear section: http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/cornwall-railway-gallery-st-ives--hayle-wharf-branches.html P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Jock, You may have already found this. There's a few 16t minerals on the Roskear Branch Section of the Railways of Cornwall Website. e.g. http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/_9929324_orig.jpg Scroll down this page for the Roskear section: http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/cornwall-railway-gallery-st-ives--hayle-wharf-branches.html P And here's another three:- https://www.flickr.com/photos/52554553@N06/10419699265/in/album-72157636828119615/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/52554553@N06/10419695175/in/album-72157636828119615/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/52554553@N06/10419662884/in/album-72157636828119615/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is that parsnips or beet on that 16 Tonner? http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/_9603903_orig.jpg P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is that parsnips or beet on that 16 Tonner? http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/_9603903_orig.jpg P Looks like the pile of sugar-beet I almost drove into near Calais a few weeks ago. Great shot of the wooden wagon as well. I'll link that to the PO wagon thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 And here's another three:- Thanks. Those 3 were linked to in post #2330 above. http://www.rmweb.co....=45553&start=75 The photographer is active on RMweb. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2016 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It wasn't only 21 ton hoppers we used in the North East. clev - j27 on coal drops west hartlepool mpd JL by John Law, on Flickr P 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Bedfords & Coal. A Scene Never To Be Repeated by Colin Pickett, on Flickr P 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It wasn't only 21 ton hoppers we used in the North East. clev - j27 on coal drops west hartlepool mpd JL by John Law, on Flickr P Do those wagons have bottom doors? I've always understood that 16 tonners so fitted had markings to that effect but I can't see any in the photo. If they're not bottom door equipped, how was this dealt with on north-eastern coal drops? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2016 Do those wagons have bottom doors? I've always understood that 16 tonners so fitted had markings to that effect but I can't see any in the photo. If they're not bottom door equipped, how was this dealt with on north-eastern coal drops? I don't think it is a set of coal drops but the incline to the coaling stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2016 Is that parsnips or beet on that 16 Tonner? http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/_9603903_orig.jpg P Hi Porcy It doesn't look like sugar beet, they are not round enough. Another factor is the GWR loco behind, most beet is grown in the east as it grows better in a dryer climate. I heard a story of a couple who moved from the West Country to East Anglia. "There was a huge pile of turnips so we helped ourselves to a couple. The first one took ages to cook and didn't taste nice." Even today farmers after harvesting leave beet in large piles awaiting collection as none of the locals will want them for their super. So are they turnips in the wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It doesn't look like sugar beet, they are not round enough. Another factor is the GWR loco behind, most beet is grown in the east as it grows better in a dryer climate. So are they turnips in the wagon. I too thought a strang shape for beet. But I'n no agriculturist. The way the load is lying the wagons give me the impression it's been unloaded and my first impression was that whatever the load was, it was probably being used as animal feedstuffs. From my times spent in West Cornwall I've seen small turnips being distributed across field for this use. Ta. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Some in this collection. https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/HuddersfieldRailways/Huddersfield/Huddersfield-Gas-Works-Railway/i-m9N4Dbf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Do those wagons have bottom doors? I've always understood that 16 tonners so fitted had markings to that effect but I can't see any in the photo. If they're not bottom door equipped, how was this dealt with on north-eastern coal drops? Here's the top of that incline. K1 in steam by Andrew Southwell, on Flickr P 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Here's the top of that incline. K1 in steam by Andrew Southwell, on Flickr P Ah. The caption said coal drops so I made an assumption. No problem with non-bottom doored stock there then . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 And here's another three:- https://www.flickr.com/photos/52554553@N06/10419699265/in/album-72157636828119615/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/52554553@N06/10419695175/in/album-72157636828119615/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/52554553@N06/10419662884/in/album-72157636828119615/ I love the corporate yellow compressors/generators on the Conflats, that is a must do model for me now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I love the corporate yellow compressors/generators on the Conflats, that is a must do model for me now! Probably were all this began. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105154-compressors-from-camborne/&do=findComment&comment=2094365 P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixM Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nice weathering on that one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nice weathering on that one. Interestingly what we can see of the interior is actually quite good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just spotted this on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1947-Press-Photo-Welders-Work-on-Railway-Wagons-at-Woolwich-Arsenal-London-/391340276319?hash=item5b1db2ba5f:g:LT8AAOSwPcVVpKoi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just spotted this on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1947-Press-Photo-Welders-Work-on-Railway-Wagons-at-Woolwich-Arsenal-London-/391340276319?hash=item5b1db2ba5f:g:LT8AAOSwPcVVpKoi I'm not 100% sure due to my small screen and poor eyesight but it looks more like they're repairing/rebuilding old wagons rather than building new ones, so I'd question the 1947 date. Interesting photo though, nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2016 Bedfords & Coal. A Scene Never To Be Repeated by Colin Pickett, on Flickr P I'd have a punt at Attercliffe goods yard, Sheffield, unless anyone knows better? Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm not 100% sure due to my small screen and poor eyesight but it looks more like they're repairing/rebuilding old wagons rather than building new ones, so I'd question the 1947 date. Interesting photo though, nonetheless. They're new builds. The piled up pressed doors and weld and heat sink witness marks are a clue. The give away is the attached press bye line that gives the production line process details and the date of 5th May 1947. I think the wagons will be MOT/MOS builds that were absorbed into BR diagram 1/102. I'll have to check references for confirmation. I suspect some high resolution images will appear somewhere online in the near future as large photographic archives such as what this image belongs to, have developed a habit of once digitised, selling off hard copies and negatives as copyright expiry dates approach. An image of the underframes being built is here: http://historicimages.com/1947-press-photo-woolwich-arsenal-london-war-plant Wheelsets being dropped in: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391340273730?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) unless anyone knows better? I'll give you odds on your punt and take your dosh. Possibly more like Nunnery Goods with Burnett & Hallamshire main distribution base being based there for many a year. Drove past the place for a few years before it was demolished (along with Burnett & Hallamshire's reputation) A quick google turned up some interesting bits and confirmed with all the railway lines ducking under and diving over each other, what a brilliant location, the area immediately around Nunnery Goods would be to model. Just visible 16 tonner: Nunnery Colliery railway tunnel - Sheffield by Tim David, on Flickr Some more hardly visible 16 tonners on the Nunnery Branch: Nunnery goods branch at Woodburn Junction by Awwalker1, on Flickr A few16 tonners next to Burnett & Hallamshires Nunnery Bunkers next to the Park Way: British Fuel Company (Sheffield) Coal Handling Plant by madsteve9, on Flickr A bit info. on the depot here: Burnett & Hallamshire Sheffield Coal Handling Plant Bernard Road by madsteve9, on Flickr P (I'll take yer money at Glasgow). Edited January 11, 2016 by Porcy Mane 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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