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http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/a/ashchurch/index32.shtml

 

...look at the buffers on that, makes you wonder if it was physically possible to couple 2 of these 16 tonners together!

 

Simple, this is one with Continental Buffers and drawgear; the coupling is longer than the equivalent BR screw coupling!

 

The instructions were always use the Continental coupling to the BR drawhook!

 

Mark Saunders

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Simple, this is one with Continental Buffers and drawgear; the coupling is longer than the equivalent BR screw coupling!

 

The instructions were always use the Continental coupling to the BR drawhook!

 

Mark Saunders

I remember seeing an instruction to that effect

 

I'm sure this was a solitary wagon so fitted and numbered B229(xxx)? - shame the number isn't visible.

 

Am I correct - can anyone throw any light on it ?

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...look at the buffers on that, makes you wonder if it was physically possible to couple 2 of these 16 tonners together!

Every time I see 1960's/70's pictures of that Dowty test track I expect to see Mr Franks in short troos walking between the wagons. I see one of the works Bedford lorries is hiding over yonder behind the other 16 tonners.

See it here:  http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/103821-can-you-identify-these-locations/page-3&do=findComment&comment=2051660

 

And the buffers: With buffers just in contact and coupling springs uncompressed, coupling has 4.09" (106mm) spare between two wagons fitted with 2' - 0½" buffers using type U  (UIC) coupling and hook as in the pic. UIC screw coupling unworn has 986 mm between centre of hook pivot pin and inside of bottom link when fully extended with 236mm of inward adjustment available.

So what type of buffers are they? The don't seem to appear in the Dowty/Oleo lists. I've seen the same type of buffer fitted to some brake vans. I've wondered if they are a variation of the Turnplat buffer? Maybe Dowty was evaluating the competition.

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Every time I see 1960's/70's pictures of that Dowty test track I expect to see Mr Franks in short troos walking between the wagons. I see one of the works Bedford lorries is hiding over yonder behind the other 16 tonners.

See it here:  http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/103821-can-you-identify-these-locations/page-3&do=findComment&comment=2051660

 

And the buffers: With buffers just in contact and coupling springs uncompressed, coupling has 4.09" (106mm) spare between two wagons fitted with 2' - 0½" buffers using type U  (UIC) coupling and hook as in the pic. UIC screw coupling unworn has 986 mm between centre of hook pivot pin and inside of bottom link when fully extended with 236mm of inward adjustment available.

So what type of buffers are they? The don't seem to appear in the Dowty/Oleo lists. I've seen the same type of buffer fitted to some brake vans. I've wondered if they are a variation of the Turnplat buffer? Maybe Dowty was evaluating the competition.

P

They look very similar to the buffers used on lots of Ferry Vans, such as this:-http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchferryvan/hfd47fdf#hfd47fdf

Basically a self-contained buffer with its own veloute spring.

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Every time I see 1960's/70's pictures of that Dowty test track I expect to see Mr Franks in short troos walking between the wagons. I see one of the works Bedford lorries is hiding over yonder behind the other 16 tonners.

 

 

Hey, leave me outta this I was only a babe in arms at the time and I don't remember a thing, no change there then some would say....

 

Dave Franks

offspring of a former assistant manager at Dowty's

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They look very similar to the buffers used on lots of Ferry Vans, such as this:-http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchferryvan/hfd47fdf#hfd47fdf

 I think visually with the top step, "nascar vents" either side and lack of keyway access plate there's quite a difference.

As fitted to this brake van:

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakevan504/h9baf270#h9baf270

 

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Hey, leave me outta this I was only a babe in arms at the time and I don't remember a thing, no change there then some would say....

 

Every time I see 1960's/70's pictures of that Dowty test track I expect to see Mr Franks in short troos walking between the wagons. I see one of the works Bedford lorries is hiding over yonder behind the other 16 tonners.

 

All right then. Nappies.

Stick a set of buffers on both ends of the pram along with some flanged wheels and set you bouncing back and forth between them test ramps and you'd be asleep in no time.

 

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Variety here at Llanymynech, Montgomeryshire on the S&MLR. Some ex works, including a slope and a 21T beyond the cabin.

 

With and without top doors, with and without bottom doors, and three different wooden-bodied minerals to add even more variety.

 

https://flic.kr/p/AnT5uH

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Wonderful shot. I wonder what the date is (Flickr doesn't say). Based on the vehicles on view, I'd guess it was immediately before the introduction of the MoT test c1960, but the presence of what I think might be a Farina styled Mostin Oxbridge, centre right, would put it post 1958ish (assuming the 1959 model year began in late 1958). The shirtsleeved cyclist, bottom right, suggests summer. So summer of 1959 perhaps?

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What a wonderfully historic shot.

 

I particularly like the 5 black 'barrow' lines from the 5 16t side doors to the dock edge.

 

Also, the girder bridge in the distance. Is it missing a span?

 

 

 

Kev.

 

Wonderful shot. I wonder what the date is (Flickr doesn't say). Based on the vehicles on view, I'd guess it was immediately before the introduction of the MoT test c1960, but the presence of what I think might be a Farina styled Mostin Oxbridge, centre right, would put it post 1958ish (assuming the 1959 model year began in late 1958). The shirtsleeved cyclist, bottom right, suggests summer. So summer of 1959 perhaps?

 

These Birds Eye containers were very important for BR and there were various official photos taken May to July 1959. I hadn't seen this before but would guess it was part of that. A very interesting photo! http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/conflatbafp 

 

Paul

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