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http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/a/ashchurch/index32.shtml

 

...look at the buffers on that, makes you wonder if it was physically possible to couple 2 of these 16 tonners together!

 

They look like 2' self-contained buffers, 13" round head.

 

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A number of the 8 shoe clasp vac-fitted (and 8-shoe clasp unfitted*) 16 mins had these buffers. The hook was mounted through a 2" extension bracket on the headstock to keep the slack distance constant.

 

*the decision to halt vacuum-braked 16t mins, following problems with the infrastructure at some unloading facilities ripping the yokes off, meant that some batches already under construction were finished with 8 shoe clasp, but sans the vacuum cylinders and pipework.

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With reference to the wagon in post 2260, taken by Andy Kirkham near Pontardulais; the wagon itself seems to be a 27t Iron Ore Tippler. I have seen several photos of these wagons in use on traffic from Graig Merthyr- does anyone where they were working to? It couldn't have been to Swansea Docks, as that relied on end-tippers; was it to somewhere like Coedbach?

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With reference to the wagon in post 2260, taken by Andy Kirkham near Pontardulais; the wagon itself seems to be a 27t Iron Ore Tippler. I have seen several photos of these wagons in use on traffic from Graig Merthyr- does anyone where they were working to? It couldn't have been to Swansea Docks, as that relied on end-tippers; was it to somewhere like Coedbach?

 

Could it not be one that has became an NCB Internal User?

 

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Could it not be one that has became an NCB Internal User?

 

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I'd thought this might be the case, but it only had BR markings, as did the ones in the other photos- the local pits were very sharp at repainting stock in internal use. A tippler would have been of little use for 'Land Sales' traffic, as you'd need a way of getting the coal out.
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A tippler would have been of little use for 'Land Sales' traffic, as you'd need a way of getting the coal out.

 

 

 Isn't that the main function of the most junior apprentice with a shovel? :D

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I'd thought this might be the case, but it only had BR markings, as did the ones in the other photos- the local pits were very sharp at repainting stock in internal use. A tippler would have been of little use for 'Land Sales' traffic, as you'd need a way of getting the coal out.

 

If not an iu then could it be used for Coking Coal to a Steel Works?

 

Mark Saunders

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If not an iu then could it be used for Coking Coal to a Steel Works?

 

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Wrong sort of coal, Mark; coking coal tended to come from the shallower fields at the eastern end of the coalfield. Graig Merthyr was in an isolated location overlooking the Llwchyr/ Loughor floodplain, on the border of the anthracite field. My suspicion is that the coal went either to one of the washery/disposal plants (Garnant, Coedbach or Onllwyn), or to Carmarthen Bay Power Station; these photos were taken after I'd left the area, so I didn't see the wagons in the flesh.
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Lovely photo of LMS mineral https://www.flickr.com/photos/69692733@N07/23290154161/in/dateposted/ enlarges very well!

 

OT but lovely photo showing what happened to M5000 Flatrol MRR https://www.flickr.com/photos/69692733@N07/23372694685/in/photostream/

 

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Hi. Unfortunately the first link is one of those 'Page not found' errors.

 

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In looking through a Freight Working Timetable for the Central Division of BR's Southern Region there appeared a working of three "minifits" from Witham (ER) through to Waddon Marsh on particular train.

 

I've never heard of "minifits", but with a google search it came up with a couple of examples which seemed to associate them with standard BR 16 ton mineral wagons, but with no details as to what made them "special"  -  any ideas ?

 

Thanks.

 

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