Southernman46 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/a/ashchurch/index32.shtml ...look at the buffers on that, makes you wonder if it was physically possible to couple 2 of these 16 tonners together! Bumping this - I'm sure this was the only 16t wagon so fitted and there was a separate operational instruction relating to its coupling - wagon numbered B229xxx ? I'd be interested to know if this was the case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Bumping this - I'm sure this was the only 16t wagon so fitted and there was a separate operational instruction relating to its coupling - wagon numbered B229xxx ? I'd be interested to know if this was the case The Continental couplings and drawgear was more comman on these as I remember at the end of their days as ZHV's in a train of 30 or so there would be two or three! The instructions for Continental couplings was a general instruction for all such stock not just the minerals! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted October 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2015 That was Breydon Viaduct, built by the M&GNR to connect to Yarmouth South Town station and the line to Lowestoft. It had a rotating span, which is open in the picture. The bridge and the line were closed in 1953. The span may have been left open to river traffic after that. The span end and its pier are visible between the adjacent fixed spans. The black(ish) car in the foreground may be a Vauxhall Victor FA (introduced Feb '57). A Mk2 Ford Zephyr/Zodiac and another possible Victor are visible but nothing else easily identifiable as a new design from the later '50s, so I would be inclined to date it to the summer of '57, possibly '58. If there's an old Wolseley in the picture I might be in it. Pete 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) The Continental couplings and drawgear was more comman on these as I remember at the end of their days as ZHV's in a train of 30 or so there would be two or three! The instructions for Continental couplings was a general instruction for all such stock not just the minerals! Mark Saunders Mark Like this you mean http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralclaspvb/eb3d3949 There are more. It looks like lot 3178 built at Butterley in 1958 had these buffers and couplings from new. Paul PS see the non prototypical whitewall tyres! Edited October 31, 2015 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 There are more. Along with the 16 tonners that were fitted with 24-1/2 inch buffers and non UIC type couplings that were bracketed off the drawbar. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) What a wondeful photo of Yarmouth. Aside from the 16 tonners, I note the following (some of which may be better dated by others?): Breydon viaduct of the M&GN in the background. Closed in 1953, it was demolished 1962. The Gt.Yarmouth Corporation bus, in the livery with the white flash below the lower windows. Was this later updated? Renault Dauphine(?) near the roadsign. Ford Mk2 Consul/Zephyr, post '59? Possible Late 50's Vauxhall. Morris (?) van on the bridge, looks late 50s. My bet is 1959 or possibly 1960. Stewart Edit: just found this link (scroll down) which states August 1959 http://www.beltonhistory.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=22&page=3 Edited October 31, 2015 by stewartingram 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2015 IndSt88 by Paul Bryson, on FlickrTOTTERNHOE LIME SENTINEL NO 8 by Andy, on FlickrBLISWORTH IRONSTONE 0-4-0ST ETTRICK by Andy, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Might be a repeat https://www.flickr.com/photos/130150336@N07/16230852234/in/photostream/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippel Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hope you can see this - 1st time I've uploaded to RMWEB. 22nd August 1972 at Grimsby. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hope you can see this - 1st time I've uploaded to RMWEB. 22nd August 1972 at Grimsby. Thanks for posting as this is the first Colour shot I have seen of the British Titan Products conversions from the 1/112 minerals! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippel Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Thanks, Mark. I was 13 at the time armed with a very simple camera, hence it's not too good quality. There were a couple of guys painting/fixing minor bits when I took the photos, and they told me they were French, but didn't believe them. I remember Railway Modeller at the time was urging us to take pictures of anything, no matter how mundane - so glad now that I did! Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Thanks, Mark. I was 13 at the time armed with a very simple camera, hence it's not too good quality. There were a couple of guys painting/fixing minor bits when I took the photos, and they told me they were French, but didn't believe them. I remember Railway Modeller at the time was urging us to take pictures of anything, no matter how mundane - so glad now that I did! Paul. Paul These two images are in the British Steel collection at Teesside Archives showing the bodies under construction! http://www.britishsteelcollection.org.uk/index. Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2015 BAGNALL PRINCESS @ PRESTON by Andy, on Flickr1954 Ffalt Abermaw / Barmouth Yard by Hugh Griffith Roberts, on FlickrStation pilot, Carstairs Junction 1966 by Stephen Hall, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks for posting as this is the first Colour shot I have seen of the British Titan Products conversions from the 1/112 minerals! Mark Ah, I at first thought that they may have been used by the British Transport Police for the storage and transport of bulk quantities of miscreants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Ah, I at first thought that they may have been used by the British Transport Police for the storage and transport of bulk quantities of miscreants. These Conversions were used to transport Ilmenite from Immingham Docks to the BTP plant at Pyewipe Road, Grimsby where it was processed for the Titanium Dioxide for white pigment as used in paint (replaced white lead) and toothpaste. The trains ran only when there was a boat at Immingham and the rest of the time would stand idle! The ex MoT/SNCF minerals lasted in traffic till they were replaced by rebodied tank chassis from W H Davis built between 1974 & 78, these wagons were one of the last unfitted wagons in use over BR metals! These had a later life as internal users at BSC Scunthorpe! This is the only shot I have of them in their BSC use! Mark Saunders 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2015 MAR 75 09. Barclay 0-4-0ST Toto shunts at Blaenavon, 1975 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr7022 with a coal train near Cholsey, December 31 1973 by Andy Kirkham, on FlickrDowlais Cae Harris, September 1974 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2015 NOV 71 17. Kilmersdon Colliery, October or November 1971 by Andy Kirkham, on FlickrAUG 72 04. 812 The Royal Naval Reserve 1859-1959 at Ashton Meadows, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on FlickrDowlais Junction, September 1974 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) The last images in the previous two postings, those at Dowlais, are 'ingot mould' wagons carrying life expired ingot moulds from various steelworks back to the Dowlais foundry for breaking, re melting and casting. Starting with this post there are several posts covering ingots and ingot wagons, both model and prototype. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/57246-black-country-blues-rolling-stock-workbench/?p=1164245 And this link contained within the above post; http://www.alangeorge.co.uk/dowlaisworks_butters_crane.htm Has information and photos about the Dowlais operation. Edited November 9, 2015 by Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) What a wondeful photo of Yarmouth. Aside from the 16 tonners, I note the following (some of which may be better dated by others?): Breydon viaduct of the M&GN in the background. Closed in 1953, it was demolished 1962. The Gt.Yarmouth Corporation bus, in the livery with the white flash below the lower windows. Was this later updated? Renault Dauphine(?) near the roadsign. Ford Mk2 Consul/Zephyr, post '59? Possible Late 50's Vauxhall. Morris (?) van on the bridge, looks late 50s. My bet is 1959 or possibly 1960. Stewart Edit: just found this link (scroll down) which states August 1959 http://www.beltonhistory.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=22&page=3 Mk II Consul/Zephyr/Zodiacs and BMC Pininfarina Oxford/Cambridge/Magnette etc. received restyling for 1959 models (IIRC I'll check) (mainly to do with tail fins!). Unfortunately I can't quite make them out, but they seem fin free. EDIT Confirmed for the Fords. The Pininfarina models were introduced as 1959 models ie 1958 (with fins) and restyled for 1962 (less fins) with a few more horses, raising the top speed to around 80 mph. Enough considering the brakes were as pathetic as the engines with roadholding to match (cf barge). * Personal experience as ex-owner of both MkII Consul and Wolseley 15/59. My dad had a Riley 4/72 (The twin carbs released a little extra HP, but sluggish was still the operative word! Edited November 11, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Mk II Consul/Zephyr/Zodiacs and BMC Pininfarina Oxford/Cambridge/Magnette etc. received restyling for 1959 models (IIRC I'll check) (mainly to do with tail fins!). Unfortunately I can't quite make them out, but they seem fin free. EDIT Confirmed for the Fords. The Pininfarina models were introduced as 1959 models ie 1958 (with fins) and restyled for 1962 (less fins) with a few more horses, raising the top speed to around 80 mph. Enough considering the brakes were as pathetic as the engines with roadholding to match (cf barge). * Personal experience as ex-owner of both MkII Consul and Wolseley 15/59. My dad had a Riley 4/72 (The twin carbs released a little extra HP, but sluggish was still the operative word! I can confirm the 80 mph capability of later Morris Oxfords. I can also confirm that they will swap ends without hope of recovery if you push your luck on damp roads and crappy remould crossplies. But it was a long time ago and in another country and I'm sure any applicable statute of limitations has expired by now . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) I did get 95 on the clock once with my Consul (then legal and it was on a motorway). She was probably bull exaggerating, as I was being followed by a Morris Minor Traveller. The 3 speed box (with floppy column change) did mean she could climb hills quite well, certainly better than the Wolseley. She didn't rot as badly either. The less said about the Corsair (straight 4) I had afterwards the better, though she was far superior to the 'dog bone' 1100 Escort Estates we had at work.... Edited November 13, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2015 SEP 73 08. 7018 heads west through Tilehurst with a coal train, August 3 1973 by Andy Kirkham, on FlickrSEP 72 18. Pecket 0-6-0ST No.6 at Merthyr Vale colliery, 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on FlickrD1062 Western Courier with a string of mineral wagons westbound near Cholsey, December 31 1973 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90164 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Look like Iron Ore tipplers in that last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2015 Look like Iron Ore tipplers in that last one. Loaded stone tipplers at the front - they've got the original size of black patch with a Pool number on it. Assuming the partial headcode is correct I would put my money on 6M53, 11.10 Westbury - Bletchley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2015 JUL 74 14. Cwmmawr Drift Mine, terminus of the Gwendraeth Valley line, July 12 1974 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Not a stunner but a good reminder to weather the inside of full wagons JUL 74 17. Guard's eye view of the Gwendraeth Valley, July 12 1974 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr JUL 74 26. 37 100 at Cynheidre Colliery, July 12 1974 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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