Grimleygrid Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Great choice of location to model, always have loved Peak Forest especially when 60s are there! I look forward to seeing scenes like this replicated: Love the building so far, you certainly don’t hang around with your modelling. Wish I could work that fast! You are going to have a very good reason to purchase many Farish class 60s and quite a few JGAs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Vale Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Peak Forest is such a lovely combination of industrial action and amazing scenery, I really look forward to seeing what you do with it. GoogleMap's is clearly a useful tool. Great perspective. Google Maps (and particularly Street View) is a godsend if you're far away from what you want to model. I've found it very frustrating that my current project is German, where Street View doesn't exist, and some of the maps images are quite low-detail. I hadn't realised how much I was relying on it before! Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Cheers chaps, I could probably do it more justice in OO but cost and space rule this out so we'll go with the bigger picture portrayed in N and see if with the right backdrop and decent photography I can still do the 'had to look twice' thing !! Alex, super photo mate, my scratchbuild is just out of picture on the left but the 2 structures on the hill top are captured well, thanks ! By my reckoning theres about £300 in N gauge JHA/JGA alone !! God help my bank balance ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Vale Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Could always get a handful and (shhhh) Photoshop the rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Could always get a handful and (shhhh) Photoshop the rest If I thought for a second I could pull that off.........I would !! Big shhhhhhhh ! Sorted the skylight style windows at the side this afternoon. I wanted to use a material that would be glossy and sometimes reflect the sun. I've used a sheet of acetate, sprayed lightly with matt black on one side. Cut to size and tucked into each window recess with the unsprayed glossy side facing out. They are secured with a tiny spray of aerosol glue mount. Joey also managed to find a N scale excavator for the site in his toy box this afternoon, one of many bits of machinery we need to source ! He has kindly donated it to Project RMC but this ones going to need a bit of quarry dust throwing at it and the silver pin mid way through its arm painting out first ! A good find though ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 The screen building is nearly finished and the bright white finish has been toned down a little with weathering powder however I do want this building to contrast starkly with its surroundings so wont be going muckier than this. A bit murky yesterday when this was taken - But its brightened up today - I feel the size is just right on this structure however when dwarfed by the rock face behind and the swave of hillside infront it will soon look swallowed up by the board which im now settled on being 6ft by 3ft. I'll go more into how ive worked this size out as adequate to accomodate the view I want in photos in a later post when the wood is purchased ready for construction. 5 tanks down, how many more to go is anyones guess ?! Next up is the wagon repair shop next door. From Quail maps, Google Earth and photos ive established this building, despite having 2 large shutter doors at the front only has the railroad running into and out of the left hand door. The right hand door stands on a concrete apron which I assume is for forklift truck access moving wagon parts in and out. Included in the Google Earth image below is the basic conversion and calculation ive used to establish the scratchbuild needs to be 8.2 by 3.4 inches. There is also a noteable colour difference between this building and its big white counterpart next door. The roof is a lot lighter however the sides look darker than the screen building. I shall probably finish it in an early freight light grey and despite wanting to add colour to the shutter doors it looks like these are plain silver so I will stay faithful to the prototype and steer away from fictional yellow or chevrons ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Looking good Jon. Found this one and thought of your new project, you can just see the doors on the wagon works just behind the blue beast 074! The train had a mix of ex-RMC and the Buxton Lime JGAs, nice train for you to model. What about a few of the Brunner Mond JEAs, that would look nice B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Super pics Alex, thank you. To be honest I prefer the Buxton Lime JGA, not quite as in your face as the orange variety !! Its going to be a 'spot the celebrity Tug' competition when its finished !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 A little more done towards buildings and structures over the weekend but most of Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning were spent on the laptop trawlling the web looking for pictures and trying to work out the different levels of the track and how high and wide embankments and hillsides would need to be. Im still happy with a board length of 6ft allowing a view from mid way between the road bridge and railhead, a distance in real terms of around 900ft. 3ft in width will be adequate to cover a glimpse of Dale Rd on the left and the hillside and ballast piles will provided the scenic break on the right. Ive built the wagon repair shop but im still undecided as to whether the apex of the roof is a little high. The model doesnt seem as low slung as the prototype, i'll paint this one up and add a little detail but a possible rebuild is on the cards if im still not happy with it going forward. From left to right the difference in heights between the main lines sweeping round from the left, the loading building and then the back road into the wagon repair shop is around 6-9ft. I'll achieve these differences in levels using layers of polystyrene before track laying begins. From an angle not often seen im happy with the sense of height the conveyor gives. This needs further weathering and a couple of the side panels opening up. Not quite sure how you would explain the angle on this one, helicopter maybe, but I liked it ! Looking across to Dale Rd The wagon repair shop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hi Jon, Great pics, at this rate you will have it finished soon. Some of this new N gauge stuff does look really good. I have to look twice these days. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 26, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hello Jon, Great project! Really enjoying following your progress so far! I've had a hankering to do Peak (or Peakish!) Forest for years in N! And looking forward to Dapol's HIAs when they come...: Thanks for posting your updates and I hope the project continues to go well! cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted September 26, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2011 Great work. I can't quite believe that this is N gauge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Ben A - What a great layout plan that is and thanks for posting the pic, thats as clear and as close to those buildings as ive seen to date. A break from all things N and the Peak District today and a little play with that splendid software Andy Y included in the first issue of Modelling Inspiration on Saturday. Now, I understand the principle of stacking images and was keen to see just how much of a difference it would make. Ive started off slowly by stacking just 2 images with different focal points however as I progress my camera has 9 different focal points so i'll develop the technique further using more images each time. This is image 1 with a focal point concentrated to the right Image 2 with a focal point more to centre/left The 2 combined using CombineZP following the process Andy stated The completed image after cropping, clarification and tweaks to contrast, colour and saturation The image is then cross processed for something a little different using the option available on the house image editor here on RMweb .....and the same process with a different composition I think im a long way off perfecting the process but there is a definate improvement in sharpness and clarity across the image. Practice makes perfect and depending on the weather i'll have another go on Thursday using the longer scenic board which will offer a greater depth of field to aim for. In the meantime id be interested to hear your thoughts on how your eyes & mind see these images ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mason Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Definatly makes it a more fuller image, instead of just looking at the loco your drawn to the clear images of the wagons in the distance, nice work mate i think ill have to have a go at this stacking lark hahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It does have an improvement, it take the 'model' feel of sharp loco, blurred wagons look (hope that makes sense!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 You know how I like light and bright colours so I really like the first combination photo (before you 'improved' it!!!). But I agree, this technique tends to improve the overall look and takes away the 'looking at a model' feeling where the depth of field is only about 5mm. Keep going, your planks are stunning works of art so any improvement to the photos only emphasises that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_S Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Really enjoyed looking at all the evidence of your handiwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Good evening folks, After an absense since mid October (when my modelling mojo disappeared) im finally back in the diorama driving seat and ready for a new challenge ! The run up to Christmas was spent producing artwork on the computer using some of the images id already taken and these were printed and framed as part of a Christmas present from me, to me ! They are now waiting to be hung (when SWMBO isnt looking) ! An example of the polaroid style I produced - I purchased my lad Train Sim for Christmas and I have to admit that maybe my modelling mojo would have returned sooner if it wasnt for endless days over the last 2 months playing - Anyway, back to modelling. A taster of what im upto next. The picture that inspired - Where ive got to tonight - And lastly, an appeal to my good friends and followers here on the site. If anyone can help me with pictures of 'the wall' at Carlisle Station Sidings please post away here on the thread. The more prototype images I can work to the more realistic im hoping the board will be. Thanks in advance and i'll be starting a new thread entitled "Bring On The Wall" in the layout section, some time in the next few weeks, documenting the progress of this 5ft diorama and the varied locos & stock to be pictured on it. Thanks in advance for any pics......................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Nice to see you back Jon i have missed your excellent tutorials! MS train simulator had a similar effect on me when it first appearred - i was hooked! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Jon, I echo Paul's comment... nice to have you back. I can understand though... lovely photos... and you've hit on the main reason why I daren't get Train Sim, unless it comes with a time machine add-on. There was a recent photo doing the rounds of the currently cleared 86 and 87 sat in almost the same spot as this 85... at least, or so it looked (I could well be wrong) but the rationale for the inspiration is clear. You should know that you've inspired me to tackle something similar for my venture into P4... I have two plans, firstly something small using the Bach single road shed... and looking a little peterborough like... and then something like Jim S-W's photoplank he did when trying various scenic items... which has a feel similar to the 85 shot above; of course I'll not need the OHLE... but your work will be very interesting to follow. So, welcome back... and good luck with the project. I'm sure there will be photos available, just a shame I've none to share. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Inspiring thread. Thank you very much for sharing! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 So is the N gauge quarry layout above now abandoned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Not at all Ian, i'll get the Carlisle diorama finished hopefully around the time Bachmann get the class 85 into the shops (April/May) then as soon as the weather improves we can make a start on the baseboards for Peak Forest and get those scratchbuilt structures above out of storage ! Jon, glad you agree and can see where im coming from on how the classic view and instantly recognisable scene that is Carlisle can be simple but highly inspirationly. Im struggling to think of a class of engine ive not seen parked up in one of those four roads infront of the wall !! Thanks Pete and Paul, glad im not the only one that found Train Sim highly addictive ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yeah, Jon, welcome back and for raising the bar, again.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Well, Jon, you gave me some ideas. I've got the room but what I don't have this year is the time.... I found a couple of planks in the garage of differing widths/thickness/lengths to form a basis of several "photo-dioramas" in different gauges. Help get my chops back too. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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