RMweb Premium richierich Posted October 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2011 I've done a search but haven't yielded anything. So a simple question is between SWD, Howes, Olivia's Models & Digitrains, which is the better solution? SWD, Howes & Olivia's Models - All use ESU Loksound V4.0 Sound decoders. Digitrains - Use the Zimo MX645 sound decoder Having heard the Digitrains sound decoder (Zimo MX645) and its very good, and a cheaper solution at around 80GBP compared to the 100-120GBP for a ESU Lokound solution. The only thing that I'm wondering is for the Class 57, whether the suppliers use a generic (American?) sound sample from an American Loco fitted with the GM EMD 645-E3 (57/0 & 57601) or GM EMD 645-F3B (57/3 & 57/6) engine, with an overlay of British sounds such as air horn etc, rather than a recording from a real Class 57 loco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven156 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I have the Howes 57 decoder. Very satisfying to run, even uses the class 47 horn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2011 i know howes use real 57 sounds, a 57/0 i believe (will confirm asap), i have recorded a set of 57/3 sounds for bryan to play with as and when he gets time. there are vids of my one in the "sound chip video" thread or on my youtube channel "fastlinegrid", it is on a 3.5 chip, bryan has not yet done the 57 for the v4 chip so you will get the 3.5 sounds on the V4 for now but he will reblow it once he has it done as for other suppliers sounds im sure someone else can confirm the sound source Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I also have the Howes 57. No video of it yet but i am working on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I have a SWD sound with standards speaker supplied. You may have to turn the volume up as I reduced the volume by 50% when I produced it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESPqjGMQD50 EDIT, to get the link added showing a video screen. Mark Edited October 10, 2011 by Mark 37 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted October 10, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Mark, sounds pretty good. I've grown to like the 57, because it sounds well in my opinion slightly like a Valenta powered HST. Much better than a ying ying 66 One thing that did cross my mind is Bachmann are producing a factory fitted DCC sound 57, with release shown at present as Nov/Dec. Wonder who's sound they'll be using? Edited October 10, 2011 by richierich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassey jones Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 They will no doubt be using SWD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I've done a search but haven't yielded anything. So a simple question is between SWD, Howes, Olivia's Models & Digitrains, which is the better solution? SWD, Howes & Olivia's Models - All use ESU Loksound V4.0 Sound decoders. Digitrains - Use the Zimo MX645 sound decoder Having heard the Digitrains sound decoder (Zimo MX645) and its very good, and a cheaper solution at around 80GBP compared to the 100-120GBP for a ESU Lokound solution. The only thing that I'm wondering is for the Class 57, whether the suppliers use a generic (American?) sound sample from an American Loco fitted with the GM EMD 645-E3 (57/0 & 57601) or GM EMD 645-F3B (57/3 & 57/6) engine, with an overlay of British sounds such as air horn etc, rather than a recording from a real Class 57 loco? I can assure you that the Digitrains Zimo MX 645 Class 57 sound project was compiled with genuine recent recordings of a Class 57 loco. As you have heard for yourself, the sounds are very good. And at £80 against £120, that's a '3 for the price of 2' offer, Ha Ha. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Has anybody got a video of the new Bachmann 57003? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john beckett Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Heard the backmann 57 today. Sounds nice and I would of had taken it home with me today. Just need some more funds. Ha ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trent Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Out of interest does anyone know which sound file is used on the Bachmann 57003? I presume it's Lok4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted December 13, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2011 And here was me thinking that this thread was going to be about sound for a pannier tank.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I think Legomanbiffo is doing some 57 sound soon ish, so you never know if his will be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legomanbiffo Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I haven't recorded a 57 yet and have quite a number of projects already in the pipeline so mine will be a while yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I'm looking at greeting sound for my new NR 57/3, which one did all of you go for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trent Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I went for SWD which I'm quite happy with and have 5 now running sound but will be getting them reblown by Biff as soon as he's completed a 57 project...nudge...nudge :-) Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Im using Howes class 57 sound,realy impressed with it.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7APT7 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Hi I would go with Howes every time, I think Howes is by far the best... Jamie Edited October 23, 2012 by 7APT7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Ive had some realy good re-blown 37 sounds from Howes,but im also impressed with Legomanbiffo 37 sound.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trent Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Im using Howes class 57 sound,realy impressed with it.... Does anyone know what the differences are between SWD and Howes sound? Anyone out there running both SWD and Howes sounds? Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) I cannot speak for the 57 sounds but previous experience with SWD sounds says the actual sound quality is very good but with the proviso that they suffer from lag. Howes sounds respond promptly to throttle changes where the SWD ones force you to drive to the sounds. I have owned SWD (or Bachmann's own variations on SWD ones) in classes 20, 24, 37, 47, 52 and 66 and driven friends' classes 25 and 45 and this applied to most of them, with the 25 and 66 being the most responsive and the 24 and 52 probably the slowest for the sounds to respond to throttle changes. I had the 20, 24 and 52 reblown by Howes! I also had the 66 reblown although the Bachmann/SWD package was not bad. Here is the video I took farly recently of the Howes 57 - sorry about the shaky camera work though. MP4 format: Edited October 23, 2012 by SRman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I cannot speak for the 57 sounds but previous experience with SWD sounds says the actual sound quality is very good but with the proviso that they suffer from lag. Howes sounds respond promptly to throttle changes where the SWD ones force you to drive to the sounds. I have owned SWD (or Bachmann's own variations on SWD ones) in classes 20, 24, 37, 47, 52 and 66 and driven friends' classes 25 and 45 and this applied to most of them, with the 25 and 66 being the most responsive and the 24 and 52 probably the slowest for the sounds to respond to throttle changes. I had the 20, 24 and 52 reblown by Howes! I also had the 66 reblown although the Bachmann/SWD package was not bad. Here is the video I took farly recently of the Howes 57 - sorry about the shaky camera work though. MP4 format: Agree with what your saying mate!! i have so much more fun running me howes,over me swd sounds.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D421 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I've done a search but haven't yielded anything. So a simple question is between SWD, Howes, Olivia's Models & Digitrains, which is the better solution? SWD, Howes & Olivia's Models - All use ESU Loksound V4.0 Sound decoders. Digitrains - Use the Zimo MX645 sound decoder Having heard the Digitrains sound decoder (Zimo MX645) and its very good, and a cheaper solution at around 80GBP compared to the 100-120GBP for a ESU Lokound solution. The only thing that I'm wondering is for the Class 57, whether the suppliers use a generic (American?) sound sample from an American Loco fitted with the GM EMD 645-E3 (57/0 & 57601) or GM EMD 645-F3B (57/3 & 57/6) engine, with an overlay of British sounds such as air horn etc, rather than a recording from a real Class 57 loco? I'd say ALL that are available are EXCELLENT...Horses for courses as they say..... Having listened to a few different types there ARE differences.... The SWD version tends to have 3 or maybe 4 stages of revs as the speed increases...This makes driving it more fun as you don't always want full thrash with a light engine! What 57 are you thinking of putting it in????? I ask this as I'm not sure the SWD is from a 57/0 as it doesn't QUITE SCREAM like a 57/0... The versions I've heard that scream are the Howes and the one by Coastal Dcc...Both of these sound superb.... I'm sure all are on you tube to view.... I've not listened to Olivias nor Digitrains so can't comment on those.... Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Sorry to resurrect and old thread, but what would people's preferences be in relation to current Class 57/0 sound options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Thanks - so what are the differences in sound between a Class 57/0, Class 57/3 and Class 57/6? I've one Class 57/0 and one Class 57/6, but don't know if these should sound the same or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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