RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2013 Yesterday I noticed that more of the old train shed columns had been removed so I thought that I better get a few shots of the last remaining three columns. Glad I did as they went overnight - they are no more! ll that is left are the lower parts of the old brick walls either side of the roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 3, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2013 Last night after a few beers there was some sunshine about on the newly exposed platforms so I took these. Why are they providing those benches for commuters to do press-ups? Wouldn't some seats be more useful? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2013 This weekend platforms 14 to 16 close ready for building the new platforms on a new alignment. From this weekend there will only be 6 terminal platforms left even once all the work is finished in 2018. The signage will change on platforms 11 and 12 plus all the other rmeianing platforms even if just a blank sticker over them. Looking across from platform 12 towards platforms 14 to 16. Platforms 14 to 16 with a service arriving into platform 15. Platforrms 13 and 14 looking towards the concourse A service arriving into platform 12 Platforms 12 and 13 The South side of the station with all that is left of the trainshed wall in Thomas Street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 What is happening to 14 to 16? As far as I'm aware there will still be platforms in this location with the same numbers in the final scheme, the main change being that terminating platforms 8-10 will be replaced by new through platforms with no change to the total number. I notice on the Quail map that 14-16 are a bit shorter so are these being lengthened to allow for more intensive use when there are fewer terminating platforms available in the future? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2013 My understanding is that the new terminal platforms will be partly rebuilt on these existing ones to a different alignment and further over. the new furthest platform will remian shorter until the signal centre is decomissioned at some time in the future as it is in the way of this platform. The other two will be 12 car. Once these platforms are rebuilt the others will be closed and rebuilt further over towards these new ones. Terminal platforms 8 to 11 will then go and be rebuilt as through platforms. I am not sure what the final numbers will be of all the platforms. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyHG Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 A few views from the signalbox of the work being carried out, which has started in earnest this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2013 Coo - I haven't looked out of the windows of the box since 1976! I did pass LB on an up SE service the other day, and it all looks very stark. The box, however, now looks as if it's been there forever. A far cry from the day in 1973 when the signalmen in the old box reported that there was "a fiery dragon" in the shell of the new box being built behind them, this turning out to be a device for drying concrete! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2013 This morning it was very wet walking along the platforms to the concourse - even rain dripping in between the buffer stops and the barriers. The footbridge has now been truncated to platforms 11 and 12, no longer serving platform 13. There is a hoarding up along platform 13 blocking off access to platform 14. Its also very windy waiting for a train when the wind is up. I know its temporary but it will be 5 years before all the work is completed and I doubt that the new canopies will combat the wind issue (even if they ban passengers from eating beans!!). Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 On the BBC News web site today....... "London Bridge station roof set for Aberystwyth museum". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-22706442 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 31, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2013 Thats good news. The way it was being cut down I thought it had gone to the scrap men, so a nice surprise that some of it will be reused. Currently,all of the old ticket hall has gone and the South eastern entrance next to it is now closed until next year. Where the shops were on the old terminal concourse has now virtually gone and you can now see the South eastern platforms from the new concourse. Not had chance to take any photos recently as the weather has not been favorable. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted May 31, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2013 It seems the crowd control for directing passengers between the through and terminus platforms from the overhead walkway crossing Tooley street has been nicked from a field! Lots of metal fencing and gates. I know us commutors are often likened to cattle, but that is really ramming the point home! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 It seems the crowd control for directing passengers between the through and terminus platforms from the overhead walkway crossing Tooley street has been nicked from a field! Lots of metal fencing and gates. I know us commutors are often likened to cattle, but that is really ramming the point home! sounds like the fencing they used at London bridge during the Olympics. The footbridge over Tooley Street is now only of use if you want to go into the station - they have moved the gateline so it is no longer possible to walk up it and then alongside the station to where the bus station was - and back over Tooley Street to a small walk of shops (Richer Sounds, Cards Galore, a shoe repairers etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I hope they don't change much else before Roundhouse gets back with his camera. Apparently he's off taking pics of American stuff. Not that I'm jealous or anything... Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted June 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2013 Theres not a lot more that they can demolish now as its virtually all gone as it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Theres not a lot more that they can demolish now as its virtually all gone as it is! Just don't use that as an excuse to stay away longer than you plan to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2013 About the only thing left is the 1980's footbridge which looks like since the roof has been taken off that it is being held up with duct tape, bits of Meccano, skyhooks and prayer, oh and whilst they are about it, how about losing that tall glass white elephant eyesore that someone has put there as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I have to say the 1970s/80s plastic Lego footbridge was never likely to achieve a design award even when new. I can't imagine anyone mourning its passing although any shelter during wet weather is better than none I guess. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 I have to say the 1970s/80s plastic Lego footbridge was never likely to achieve a design award even when new. I can't imagine anyone mourning its passing although any shelter during wet weather is better than none I guess. Pete. It was heaps better than what was there before, which didn't even span the whole station! Getting from the SE to the Central was a much more difficult affair, as people tended to find out when the Cat/Tatt had terminated on the Central instead of coming from Charing Cross and they were in a hurry! The 1976 BTF London Bridge video describes the old layout as confused and confusing, which is fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Well there were three stations, from the south: London & Croydon London & Greenwich South Eastern Railway Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'll have to try and find some pics or info on what was there before the current footbridge. I appreciate the ease of a direct connection between Central and South Eastern (which is the most important thing for the traveller who doesn't care what a footbridge looks like!), I just don't personally like the modern "clip together" construction materials! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 The span from platforms 11 / 12 to 13 has Ben closed and was under demolition so its no longer as useful these days if your train goes from platform 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 There were two footbridges. One of them was for the South Eastern platforms only (in those days 1 - 7 there was no number 5), the other one crossed into the Greenwich and presumably the Croydon stations. I'm guessing here, but I think it was the country end and used the same hole as the Lego bridge. Who else remembers the train indicators, where NORTH KENT meant via Lewisham and Woolwich and the DARTFORD LOOP meant via Sidcup. Commuters were expected to know their railway in those days. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2013 Who else remembers the train indicators, where NORTH KENT meant via Lewisham and Woolwich and the DARTFORD LOOP meant via Sidcup. Commuters were expected to know their railway in those days. Modern commuters are quite savvy when it comes to today's railways. Often in the details...so (for example) many Southern commuters know the seating layouts of a 377 from the unit number (you see them move positions on the platform when 377101-119 show up (2+2 seating throughout), and sometimes hear an audible groan when it is 377120 - 139 (3+2 seating in the main part of all four carriages). They also have a reasonable knowledge of the local rail network - enabling ad hoc diversions and train changes as and when required. Perhaps it is more of a case of 'know your enemy'! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 There were two footbridges. One of them was for the South Eastern platforms only (in those days 1 - 7 there was no number 5), the other one crossed into the Greenwich and presumably the Croydon stations. I'm guessing here, but I think it was the country end and used the same hole as the Lego bridge. Who else remembers the train indicators, where NORTH KENT meant via Lewisham and Woolwich and the DARTFORD LOOP meant via Sidcup. Commuters were expected to know their railway in those days. I'm not sure there was any footbridge link through to the Croydon platforms. I think it stopped at the Low Level, whence one had to go via the concourse to access the Croydon side. Again, in the BTF film, specific mention is made of the breaching of the side wall, as an enabler for the new 1976 footbridge. As for the Dartford Loop, there used to be a man at Waterloo East platform A who announced incoming trains from Charing Cross - and "Loop Line! Loop Line!" was one of his cries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm not sure there was any footbridge link through to the Croydon platforms. I think it stopped at the Low Level, whence one had to go via the concourse to access the Croydon side. Again, in the BTF film, specific mention is made of the breaching of the side wall, as an enabler for the new 1976 footbridge. As for the Dartford Loop, there used to be a man at Waterloo East platform A who announced incoming trains from Charing Cross - and "Loop Line! Loop Line!" was one of his cries. Something lost with all the automatic announcements! I miss the announcements at Mottingham as the train pulled in; "It's yer old Charing Crosser". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.