drgj Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Did D211 appear in green with full yellow ends or did it go from small panels to blue? I am a little apprehensive about painting this loco as it is expensive and if I ever had to sell it I would lose more money I suppose! Also the white line along the top of the sides looks too wide so making the sides look not much deeper than the old model. I think the lines should reach down half way to the engine area windows (prob already mentioned). All a bit pedantic as it is a nice loco ( I haven't actually bought one yet, by the way!). Who remembers those commuter trains that ran out of King's Cross every evening in the late 70s? They were so long that you couldn't hear the sound of the loco until you had walked up the platform hoping to hear a whistling sound! . The 17:12 to Peterborough was supposed to be a booked class 40 although I had a 46 and 31s on this train. More reliable was the earlier 16:30 to Grantham. This seemed to have a 40 a lot more often. These trains were great because they stopped at a lot of stations giving a lot of good sounds as they pulled out of each one! The 2 minutes past midnight sleeper was supposed to be a 40 but not when I rode on it. dave Edited September 16, 2014 by drgj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Did D211 appear in green with full yellow ends or did it go from small panels to blue? I am a little apprehensive about painting this loco as it is expensive and if I ever had to sell it I would lose more money I suppose! Also the white line along the top of the sides looks too wide so making the sides look not much deeper than the old model. I think the lines should reach down half way to the engine area windows (prob already mentioned). All a bit pedantic as it is a nice loco ( I haven't actually bought one yet, by the way!). Who remembers those commuter trains that ran out of King's Cross every evening in the late 70s? They were so long that you couldn't hear the sound of the loco until you had walked up the platform hoping to hear a whistling sound! . The 17:12 to Peterborough was supposed to be a booked class 40 although I had a 46 and 31s on this train. More reliable was the earlier 16:30 to Grantham. This seemed to have a 40 a lot more often. These trains were great because they stopped at a lot of stations giving a lot of good sounds as they pulled out of each one! The 2 minutes past midnight sleeper was supposed to be a 40 but not when I rode on it. dave Having looked at photos of the various Bachmann 40's, I think you are absolutely right about the white cantrail line being too deep on the later releases. Its ironic that Bachmann appear to have got this feature right on the first releases, which were criticised ansd subsequently corrected for having the wrong roof/ body profile! I quite happily run D368 from the first batch with the roof/body error - it looks a lot better however for having the body lowered on the chassis, and I've felt no need to "upgrade". There was quite a lot about this subject earlier in this thread and on an accompanying one. Unfortunately I can't help with the livery history of D211, although I'm sure there will be people on here who can. I do remember 31's on the Peterborough services, fair roaring along around the Offords and Abbotts Ripton - now its just emu's! John. Edited September 16, 2014 by John Tomlinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I had an earlier Bachmann class 40 (D325) but sold it a while back. I wish I had hung on to it. When they first came out I quite liked the Jouef class 40 but only from the side! It looked quite low slung and heavy in the side view but the front view required some added imagination! The imagination is always good for saving time and money. I noticed a fantastic model on here of Liverpool Lime Street station. It is incredibly well made. I do, however, remember that when I was young and with a good imagination, my trains would run into Euston, Holyhead or Kings Cross without requiring any modelling skills! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny retro Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) slightly OT, but does anyone know what year 40 135 lost her water tanks? and did she have frost grills around that time too? cheers. Edited October 16, 2014 by johny retro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted October 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2014 Seen running with both tanks and grills in summer 1979, lost both by Jan 1980. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny retro Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 wow. probably all came off during an exam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted October 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2014 It had its last classified visit to Crewe between 19 July and 30 September 1979, so most likely then. http://class40motherlist.com/mrc40135.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbamoss Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 A bit off track but can anyone scan the sound functions sheet and send to me or post here I have lost mine. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 A bit off track but can anyone scan the sound functions sheet and send to me or post here I have lost mine. Ian FO - Lights F1 - Sound On/Off + Fade in/out on the move F2 - Horn 1 F3 - Horn 2 F4 - Brakes F5 - Fuel pump F6 - Coupling F7 - Cab lights F8 - Aux 2 (blank) F9 - Flange Squeal F10 - Guards Whistle F11 - Notch Up F12- Notch Down F13 - Air Dryer F14 - Fan Random - Fan & Compressor F1 On - Warm Start F1 On-off - Failed Start F1 On-off-on Cold Start HTH Ken 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Glad I found this post! I was having terrible issues with the sound version, with it just cutting out on points and at any speed, totally at random. I pulled her apart and fitted custom pickups and she is now performing wonderfully. Hopefully, the design flaw of the existing pickups has been noted at Barwell and not to be repeated. Its a clever idea, but if it aint broke.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Glad I found this post! I was having terrible issues with the sound version, with it just cutting out on points and at any speed, totally at random. I pulled her apart and fitted custom pickups and she is now performing wonderfully. Hopefully, the design flaw of the existing pickups has been noted at Barwell and not to be repeated. Its a clever idea, but if it aint broke.... Indeed, adding new/extra pick-ups makes a big difference to the running quality of all the latest 40's, it's well worth doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny retro Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 i apologise if this has been answered already on here, but how interchangable are the chassis' and bodies of the new Bachmann 40, old Bachmann 40 and lima 40? it sounds as though the old Bachmann 40 had the best pick-ups/chassis/motor combination, but the new Bachmann 40 obviously looks better. if i were to pick up an old Bachmann 40, second hand. could i put a lima body straight onto it, or a new Bachmann one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 i apologise if this has been answered already on here, but how interchangable are the chassis' and bodies of the new Bachmann 40, old Bachmann 40 and lima 40? it sounds as though the old Bachmann 40 had the best pick-ups/chassis/motor combination, but the new Bachmann 40 obviously looks better. if i were to pick up an old Bachmann 40, second hand. could i put a lima body straight onto it, or a new Bachmann one? I would beg to differ, the new version is much better than the old one. The original release blue split headcode version had the pickup issue, but it's since been sorted with subsequent releases. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2014 I've got several Lima body/Bachmann 8-pin DCC chassis hybrids. It's more or less a straight fit, which just some minor fettling of the chassis at each nose end, The Lima bodies do need a fair amount of work, but better starting point than the mark 1 Bachmann body shell. I've got three of the new Bachy 40s, but not tried to swap chassis between Lima or mark 1 Bachmann. I've asked Bachmann if there are likely to be spare mark 2 chassis available to which they responded yes at some point in the future. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2014 I agree with Lee, once the non-conductive grease was removed from my two Bachmann mark 2 splitters, there were smooth running models and no problems. I still rate the mark I chassis as well though. Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny retro Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) thanks guys. i fancy treating myself to a brand new Bachmann 40, but i have lima d335 and 212 which i'd also like to still run, but on Bachmann chassis. i'm more focussed on running quality than minor image flaws. Edited November 2, 2014 by johny retro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Just a quick note thanks to Paul (Grunfols) I've acquired a mark 2 Bachmann 40 chassis which I've just done a trial fit to a Lima bodyshell. It's an absolute perfect fit, better than the mark 1 chassis in fact. Only if Bachmann could provide these as spares I'd get my Lima fleet sorted in no time. Neil Edited November 3, 2014 by Downendian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted November 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2014 On a slightly different matter, for the 2012 retooled class 40 are the nose lighting board in the nose is generic, or are there specific lighting boards for:- split headcode centre headcode disc head code ? Thanks, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I have just got hold of a Bachmann class 40 (D211) but with the sound removed so it was a lot cheaper. I think it is a good model and it would take a lot of work to get a Lima body to look as good. It also runs well (once I had run it in properly). It wasn't perfectly smooth at slow speeds before the run in. I also ran in my 10001. When I took it out the box it was a bit juddery and the lights flashed, etc. I thought I would have to do all that cleaning of contacts but I persevered with the running in and it settled down very nicely. 40 011 was my favourite class 40. I live on the south coast but I travelled up to Manchester a few times in the late 70s. I must have been only 14 or 15 when I was standing at the end of the platform at Guide Bridge looking at the stabling point. A driver came along and when I told him how far i'd come he took me into the yard with him as he had to move some locomotives about. I went in the cab of 40 011 when he moved it and then a class 76 which was very interesting. I don't think it would be allowed these days. Dave Edited December 1, 2014 by drgj 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 On a slightly different matter, for the 2012 retooled class 40 are the nose lighting board in the nose is generic, or are there specific lighting boards for:- split headcode centre headcode disc head code ? Thanks, Richard A generic nose circuit board may be used ? , but the smd LED's will be fitted in different places to suit the nose marker light positions, as per Bachmann 37's. HTH Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted December 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2014 My reason for asking is I picked up a 40 from Bachmann as a sold as seen. Lovely loco, but the motor, driveshafts, circuit board and lighting boards are all missing. Would love to get these parts and have it as a working loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted December 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2014 I have just got hold of a Bachmann class 40 (D211) but with the sound removed so it was a lot cheaper. I think it is a good model and it would take a lot of work to get a Lima body to look as good. It also runs well (once I had run it in properly). It wasn't perfectly smooth at slow speeds before the run in. I also ran in my 10001. When I took it out the box it was a bit juddery and the lights flashed, etc. I thought I would have to do all that cleaning of contacts but I persevered with the running in and it settled down very nicely. Dave Is there a shop selling D211 with sounds removed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2014 Cheltenham Model Centre have had D211 without sound in the past - might be worth asking them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Cheltenham Model Centre have had D211 without sound in the past - might be worth asking them Might be worth asking Olivia's as well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 47107 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Might be worth asking Olivia's as well ? May aswell buy a sound fitted one. They quoted me £150 for a Bachmann 47 with the sound removed not long ago. I didn't buy it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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