MrWolf Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, cctransuk said: You can't boycott a country that produces the vast majority of the stuff you need to sustain your current quality of life. CJI. I'm well aware of that, hence the comment about us having too many fingers in too many pies there. It's been carefully engineered over the last few decades, it maximises profits for a few and keeps wages down in what remnants of a manufacturing industry we have left. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted January 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, MrWolf said: I'm well aware of that, hence the comment about us having too many fingers in too many pies there. It's been carefully engineered over the last few decades, it maximises profits for a few and keeps wages down in what remnants of a manufacturing industry we have left. That may well be the case - I couldn't possibly comment further; (other than to observe that the horse that escaped via the stable door is going like a rocket and is already way over the horizon)!! CJI. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: The final photo seems to depict a different loco - one with extra side vents? There are two sides to every loco! Edited January 11, 2022 by Ruffnut Thorston Typo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 17 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: The final photo seems to depict a different loco - one with extra side vents? 10 hours ago, Ruffnut Thorston said: There are two sides to every loco! Ever wondered at a Nissan Cube? Lord knows what the designers were on that day! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: The final photo seems to depict a different loco - one with extra side vents? AL1/81s are like that.... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, cctransuk said: You can't boycott a country that produces the vast majority of the stuff you need to sustain your current quality of life. CJI. Then perhaps you need to think about the quality of your life and what it depends on. It isn't easy to avoid buying products from countries such as China, but you don't need to buy a new mobile phone every year, throw out clothes when they don't match the latest fashion trend. buy the latest RTR model just because it looks nice, etc. 2 hours ago, Hroth said: Ever wondered at a Nissan Cube? Lord knows what the designers were on that day! The Japanese car industry has been good at doing weird for some time. After realising that their early design decisions pushed the boundaries of blandness, they went too far the other way. Even their current "regular" models look as though the design was given to the apprentice to liven up a bit, with OTT light clusters and other detailing. Edited January 12, 2022 by Jol Wilkinson Spelling 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Then perhaps you need to think about the quality of your life and what it depends on. It isn't easy to avoid buying products from countries such as China, but you don't need to buy a new mobile phone every year, throw out clothes when they don't match the latest fashion trend. buy the latest RTR model just because it looks nice, etc. I do not do any of the things that you mention, but I'm afraid that there is little chance of persuading those that do to radically change their lifestyle, in order to put try to pressure on a regime that is not influenced by external pressure. CJI. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Then perhaps you need to think about the quality of your life and what it depends on. It isn't easy to avoid buying products from countries such as China, but you don't need to buy a new mobile phone every year, throw out clothes when they don't match the latest fashion trend. buy the latest RTR model just because it looks nice, etc. It has to be said that a rather large amount of jobs in your town depend on imports from China... (mine included!) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, admiles said: It has to be said that a rather large amount of jobs in your town depend on imports from China... (mine included!) But how many would be employed in industry manufacturing what we import? James Hamilton Patterson's book, "What we have lost, the dismantling of Great Britain" makes interesting reading on the decline of industry in this country. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said: But how many would be employed in industry manufacturing what we import? James Hamilton Patterson's book, "What we have lost, the dismantling of Great Britain" makes interesting reading on the decline of industry in this country. Yes manufacturing industry in this country has declined hugely as it has in almost all "western" countries. Certainly for the short to medium term it isn't coming back as the economics simply don't stack up. Most people wouldn't be able to afford a lot of products if they were produced in this country rather than in the Far East. Nor, I suspect would a great many "Brits" want to work in mundane manufacturing jobs. We're already seeing labour shortages in many sectors. To fill those jobs you'd be having to allow more economic immigration...which is a whole other somewhat contentious discussion! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Interesting discussion and there’s a separate section of the forum for such discussions. Back on track https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Model-Trains-Job-Lot-/154791742749?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 A hundred quid for this! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Thanks Ian, to coin a phrase: "S*** went sideways in a big hurry" Speaking of that matter which went sideways, he'll be lucky to get half that sum, judging from the piles of similar coaches I see at toy and train fairs. The tramcar body is unusual though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, MrWolf said: Thanks Ian, to coin a phrase: "S*** went sideways in a big hurry" Speaking of that matter which went sideways, he'll be lucky to get half that sum, judging from the piles of similar coaches I see at toy and train fairs. The tramcar body is unusual though. Yes I went back for a second nosey after posting. The blue Pullman triang centre car fetches about £30 so carries almost a third of the start price alone. Other stuff is mainly battered run of the mill triang etc. if it was all separated out I reckon with the crazy prices realised sometimes you could actually achieve the ton but it’d be many hours of faff. The mistake people make with these random lots is valuing each piece fully when the items aren’t cohesive and thus no single buyer could want everything for their layout. That just leaves the job lot buyers to move items they don’t want on and they want their cut so won’t give the price. Because of the centre car I’d run to 50 if I was a dealer. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Hroth said: Ever wondered at a Nissan Cube? Lord knows what the designers were on that day! Misread as Rubik's Cube! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2022 4 hours ago, ianmacc said: Interesting discussion and there’s a separate section of the forum for such discussions. Back on track https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Model-Trains-Job-Lot-/154791742749?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 A hundred quid for this! Is that a swastika on the side of one of the freight cars? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2022 this looks Interesting on eBay, broad gauge kit built loco I think, badly listed so could be a bargain, or could not but not something you see every day IKB models by the look of it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Metal-Locomotive-Model-Train-Hornby-/275107755835?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Very nice model. He's got four very similar locos, all the same price, none of which have their tenders. Very odd. I wonder where they came from and what happened to everything else? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Hroth said: Lord knows what the designers were on that day! From what I'm led to believe, it may or may not be a certain fungus, which may or may not resemble a certain breakfast side order, which goes nice with bacon, with, hallucinogenic properties. I must stress I have never been to Japan, so can't confirm it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, PhilJ W said: Is that a swastika on the side of one of the freight cars? I know! I saw it too. It’s the TR (triang railways) box car. I have one somewhere in that livery. (Grey not swastika!), I will assume it’s from.a childhood military origin for use with their plastic soldiers! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Probably saw a war film such as The Train and recreated the action on the living room carpet! Didn't we all do stuff like that? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enornmous-lot-of-Hornby-TRIANG-OO-GAUGE-TRACK-few-hundred-pieces-/194730838274?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Don’t throw away that old triang super 4 track that’s been in the garage rusting away since system 6 came out. Bung it dirt and all on eBay and ask well over a hundred pounds for it! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Probably saw a war film such as The Train and recreated the action on the living room carpet! Didn't we all do stuff like that? Yes using the handy Airfix military figures etc! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, ianmacc said: Yes using the handy Airfix military figures etc! Not forgetting that old Dinky field gun that fired match sticks! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, ianmacc said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enornmous-lot-of-Hornby-TRIANG-OO-GAUGE-TRACK-few-hundred-pieces-/194730838274?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Don’t throw away that old triang super 4 track that’s been in the garage rusting away since system 6 came out. Bung it dirt and all on eBay and ask well over a hundred pounds for it! Now I feel better about some of the junk I've sold over the years. At least I had the decency to start at 99 pence! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, big jim said: this looks Interesting on eBay, broad gauge kit built loco I think, badly listed so could be a bargain, or could not but not something you see every day IKB models by the look of it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Metal-Locomotive-Model-Train-Hornby-/275107755835?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Looks like a rather nice "Rover" class in 1892 condition. 58 minutes ago, ianmacc said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enornmous-lot-of-Hornby-TRIANG-OO-GAUGE-TRACK-few-hundred-pieces-/194730838274?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Don’t throw away that old triang super 4 track that’s been in the garage rusting away since system 6 came out. Bung it dirt and all on eBay and ask well over a hundred pounds for it! Throw out? I've got a Super 4 double oval for running Triang locos that bounce on System 6 chairs... 42 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Not forgetting that old Dinky field gun that fired match sticks! Still got mine! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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