RMweb Premium John Besley Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, NHY 581 said: That's an interesting listing by dirty boys weathering. The user name "Dirty Boy!"has been used by Lord and Butler for many years (since 2014 ?) as the brand name for Adrian's weathering carried out from the shop. Suffice to say, there is a considerable difference in quality. Not to be confused......... Rob. If they had gone to that much bother why on earth didnt they use proper reference photos to see what locos look like in a scrap yard, that just looks like camouflage finish... depends how long an engine has been out of traffic depends on how they weather.. dirt starts to take on a greenish hue before it gets bleached away by rain then surface rust starts... and so it goes on. Just out of interest where did all the A3's and A4's get cut up anyway Had another A3 been preserved would 4472 have been so iconic Edited January 9, 2022 by John Besley . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, John Besley said: If they had gone to that much bother why on earth didnt they use proper reference photos to see what locos look like in a scrap yard, that just looks like camouflage finish... depends how long an engine has been out of traffic depends on how they weather.. dirt starts to take on a greenish hue before it gets bleached away by rain then surface rust starts... and so it goes on. Just out of interest where did all the A3's and A4's get cut up anyway Had another A3 been preserved would 4472 have been so iconic Hi John. Apologies but if you are thinking that's anything to do with L&B, think again. Note the difference in user name and Adrians brand. As I say, not to be confused. They are aware of this individuals activities on ebay. Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Correction ... I was thinking about the A3 in particular.... Do you have any pics of the L&B work.... thought you meant Lynton and Barnstaple until I reread the message... Edited January 9, 2022 by John Besley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The first one to appear on ebay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334280625526?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=ead5b3ed90d94d61a6be28463a1c4805&bu=43007734306&ut=RU&osub=-1~1&crd=20220106012627&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid £79.95 more than he paid for it a few weeks ago. The sale "excuse" that he is Selling from my personal collection due to a change in direction and now focusing on my live steam. doesn't seem to hold up when you look at the other items he has for sale, which also includes the new Hornby 10,000 at the same price. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Not so much madness and "WTF?" A model of an Italian Railways Horses Head wagon. Presumably from the days FS had the contract from the Mafia for overnight delivery of bedroom warnings. When it absolutely has to be there overnight, or lose your kneecaps... 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, John Besley said: Correction ... I was thinking about the A3 in particular.... Do you have any pics of the L&B work.... thought you meant Lynton and Barnstaple until I reread the message... There should be some on Lord & Butler's website. Adrian Butler's weathering is professional, very high quality, better than most RTR weathering, and not unreasonably priced; no connection satisfied customer. I don't know if Adrian is a participant on this forum; I know Peter Lord isn't. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 23 hours ago, MrWolf said: I think they call that a "makeover" nowadays. The Great Locomotive Throw Down!? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, wombatofludham said: Not so much madness and "WTF?" A model of an Italian Railways Horses Head wagon. Presumably from the days FS had the contract from the Mafia for overnight delivery of bedroom warnings. When it absolutely has to be there overnight, or lose your kneecaps... That's an expensive bit of silliness. (I'd have thought maybe a tenner?) Is there a well wagon for the rest of the horse? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskra Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said: The first one to appear on ebay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334280625526?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=ead5b3ed90d94d61a6be28463a1c4805&bu=43007734306&ut=RU&osub=-1~1&crd=20220106012627&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid £79.95 more than he paid for it a few weeks ago. The sale "excuse" that he is Selling from my personal collection due to a change in direction and now focusing on my live steam. doesn't seem to hold up when you look at the other items he has for sale, which also includes the new Hornby 10,000 at the same price. Let's hope it doesn't sell and set a precedent... 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, MrWolf said: That's an expensive bit of silliness. (I'd have thought maybe a tenner?) Is there a well wagon for the rest of the horse? And a saddle tank to pull it. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, rab said: And a saddle tank to pull it. I laughed at that, but it still deserves a: 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: That's an expensive bit of silliness. (I'd have thought maybe a tenner?) Is there a well wagon for the rest of the horse? Assuming the horse has indeed lost its head, I'm guessing the rest of it will not be very well?? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Iskra said: Let's hope it doesn't sell and set a precedent... There, now I'm 'watching' it! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 17:37, andyman7 said: Well, it scrubbed up very well...(before/after below)... One to take home to mother!? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: One to take home to mother!? At least he doesn't have to hide it from the memsahib anymore! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: Assuming the horse has indeed lost its head, I'm guessing the rest of it will not be very well?? I imagine that it's having a particularly bad day. It's probably kebabs by now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: That's an expensive bit of silliness. (I'd have thought maybe a tenner?) Is there a well wagon for the rest of the horse? The rest is probably in this one: Or do they really use gorillas in that stuff? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 hours ago, wombatofludham said: Not so much madness and "WTF?" A model of an Italian Railways Horses Head wagon. Presumably from the days FS had the contract from the Mafia for overnight delivery of bedroom warnings. When it absolutely has to be there overnight, or lose your kneecaps... 2 hours ago, MrWolf said: That's an expensive bit of silliness. (I'd have thought maybe a tenner?) Is there a well wagon for the rest of the horse? 1 hour ago, rab said: And a saddle tank to pull it. 1 hour ago, Paul H Vigor said: Assuming the horse has indeed lost its head, I'm guessing the rest of it will not be very well?? 23 minutes ago, MrWolf said: I imagine that it's having a particularly bad day. It's probably kebabs by now. Probably owned by Shergar Inc. More likely to be in tins of cat food. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2022 Actually it is a serious model. It was part of a Roman Bronze statue that was discovered in a private collection. The head and other parts of the statue were bought together and the statue rebuilt. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hroth said: Probably owned by Shergar Inc. More likely to be in tins of cat food. I don't remember horse being mentioned in the Meow Mix jingle. " I like beef and I like liver, I like chicken in my dinner......." It's probably being served up in some bohee restaurant in Camden... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Actually it is a serious model. It was part of a Roman Bronze statue that was discovered in a private collection. The head and other parts of the statue were bought together and the statue rebuilt. That's interesting, I did get the impression that it was something like that, but didn't realize it was of an actual event. It was more the £350 price tag that was amusing. Once they've got the pieces of the horse together, perhaps they can have a look for the buffer beam details which you'd expect to be present at a tenth of the price? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 14 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Actually it is a serious model. It was part of a Roman Bronze statue that was discovered in a private collection. The head and other parts of the statue were bought together and the statue rebuilt. Beat me to it The finish shows clearly it’s a model of a bronze or other type of statue. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, ianmacc said: Beat me to it The finish shows clearly it’s a model of a bronze or other type of statue. I could see that and agree that it makes an interesting change from the usual tank / electrical transformer / ship's propellor, but £350? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, MrWolf said: I could see that and agree that it makes an interesting change from the usual tank / electrical transformer / ship's propellor, but £350? Hell no lol! It qualifies for the thread on that basis alone. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, ianmacc said: Hell no lol! It qualifies for the thread on that basis alone. There's been some consideration of whether there's a set of wagons for the rest of the horse. These animals being well endowed, I'm presuming that there's a tool van in the train formation? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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